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mountainman
mountainman - 2/14/2024, 8:52 AM
Lewis Tan is a terrible actor, but Shatterstar has always been a character with a unique look but is boring.

Hopefully they give him some good action and few speaking lines.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/14/2024, 8:55 AM
@mountainman - I doubt he'll be in it much, especially considering the amount of rumored cameos in the film.

mountainman
mountainman - 2/14/2024, 8:59 AM
@EgoEgor - I bet there is something near the beginning with the “old X-Force” doing a mission to more or less wrap up that plot thread from 2.

The TVA takes him within the first 20-30 mins I think. So there will just be a little at the beginning with the characters from the other Deadpool movies. Some might come back at the end or later, but likely not Shatterstar.
rebels21
rebels21 - 2/15/2024, 5:09 AM
@EgoEgor - Watch the trailer backgrounds.
xfan320
xfan320 - 2/14/2024, 8:55 AM
"best fans in the world!"

Looks over at MK fans... 👀

Uhhhh.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/14/2024, 9:53 AM
@xfan320 - who's MK?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/14/2024, 9:53 AM
@xfan320 - oh...Mortal Kombat ...duh
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/14/2024, 10:39 AM
@xfan320 - I mean, MK fans are toxic as hell when it comes to playing people online. But I would say when it comes to the movies most MK fans are pretty reasonable.

Just do the characters justice, and don't add any stupid BS or changes that no one wants. Like adding a brand new character to be the star of the movie, or the stupid dragon birthmarks that grant them their powers.

Otherwise, I don't think MK fans are that bad when it comes to the movies. They are no where near as bad as other fan bases.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/14/2024, 8:56 AM
Glad he's back, can't wait to see him give more uppercut's in Mortal kombat 2.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/14/2024, 9:02 AM
Ah yes, the cameo we've all been waiting for
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/14/2024, 9:10 AM
Even near the peak of the Superhero genre, people barely supported the Fox-verse X-Men franchise. We're getting cameos of people nobody was invested in when they actually were given more focus and yet we're going to have a bunch of people just praising it.

We're already seeing Disney recycling dropped concepts from Spider-man: NWH such as Deadpool going back through the MCU and revisiting certain events - such as revisiting AoU, Thor Ragnarok, etc...
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/14/2024, 10:02 AM
@Scarilian - what?! Barley supported...
that couldn't be more wrong. You're either very young and weren't around when that franchise started or you are high af.

People rip on all those films now since marvel started its thing, but back then people couldn't get enough of it. Heck, even the sh1tty X3 and Origins: Wolverine did well because there was mostly no competition.

They produced more good films than bad.
X-Men
X2
First class
The Wolverine
Days of Future Past
DP1
LOGAN
DP2 .......... all good films. That's 8 out of 13. Every franchise has their good and bad films; impossible to avoid
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/14/2024, 10:52 AM
@Scarilian - Also, NWH much? Andrew Garfield, Electro, Lizard, Sandman from Spider-Man 3, etc. etc.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/14/2024, 2:34 PM
@ObserverIO -
"NWH much?"
Andrew Garfield was the Spider-man for two films
Electro and Lizard were the main villains of prior films.
Sandman was one of the two main villains from Spider-man 3.

These are characters the audience knows because they were in films that made upwards the region of $700m+ and also they were the focal points of those films.

"Barley supported..."

In terms of audience viewership and financially, they gained a cult following but a majority of the films they released were financially performing only just enough to get a sequel.

Only Logan, Days Of Future Past and Apocalypse made above $500m.

"They produced more good films than bad."

Whether good films or not, nostalgia only works on characters the audience actually knows.

The most likely way a member of the audience will know a character is if the prior media was successful enough. Pyro for example appeared in the Deadpool 3 trailer and nobody recognized him. Aspects like that demonstrate that they can't bank on the nostalgia factor of the Fox-Verse X-Men franchise.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/14/2024, 3:24 PM
@Scarilian - Relative to the times in which they were released, the franchise was a very well known and popular success. X-Men 2000 only grossed $296.3 million, but it was one of the highest grossing films of the year and an audience favorite. It also directly and single-handedly kick-started the superhero boom. It made a star out of Hugh Jackman, who everyone associates with the role even today.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/14/2024, 6:11 PM
@ObserverIO -
2000 - X-Men: $296.3m ($75m budget, a success)
2003 - X-Men 2: $407.7m ($110-$125m budget, a success)
2006 - X-Men 3: $460.4m ($210m budget, likely just broke even)
2011 - First Class: $353.6m ($140-$160m budget,likely just broke even)
2014 - Days Of Future Past: $746m ($205m budget, a success)
2016 - Apocalypse: $543.9m ($178m budget, a success)
2019 - Dark Phoenix: $252.4m ($200m budget, a box office bomb)

Average box office: $437.19m (Rounded up)
Removing DofP & Dp: $412.38m

The X-Men brand currently is so financially non-viable that any budget over $200m means they likely won't make profit, this may be a factor as to why Marvel have not made an X-Men film yet but instead are electing to use them to promote other projects.

This is why they are using the more successful Deadpool brand as a method of trying to re-hype interest in the X-Men.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/15/2024, 4:26 AM
@Scarilian - And Wolverine. The last Wolverine film grossed $619.2 million on a $97-127 million budget.

I had no idea that First Class barely broke even. People love that movie and it really helped propel J-Law's career after Hunger Games.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/17/2024, 11:24 AM
@ObserverIO -
Yeah, it's why they are using Deadpool's branding and Wolverine's branding in the hopes the combination would be enough to hit $1bn - as Deadpool 3 definitely has a budget of around $250m or higher - along with it being one of the few Disney films this year.
Beer85
Beer85 - 2/14/2024, 9:13 AM
Guy isn't a particularly good actor. Actually he has been pretty bad in most things.
Vigor
Vigor - 2/14/2024, 9:17 AM
@Beer85 - but he's pretty. So it makes up for it
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 2/14/2024, 9:23 AM
@Beer85 - He's not really an actor, full stop. He got breaks thanks to his marital arts ability and good looks, but never seemed to even master the basics of believable line delivery (see Mortal Kombat).
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/14/2024, 10:03 AM
@Vigor - and Asian so 2 birds, 1 stone
Fogs
Fogs - 2/14/2024, 10:03 AM
@MarkCassidy - marital arts ability and good looks

GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/14/2024, 9:47 AM
Abysmal actor and a dick. Didn’t he die in DP2?
Fogs
Fogs - 2/14/2024, 10:04 AM
@GhostDog - DP brought X-Force back to life with the time machine.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 2/14/2024, 10:30 AM
@Fogs - oh shit my bad
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 2/14/2024, 9:52 AM
I had no idea who shatterstar was, that he was in DP2, and that he died in the last film.
Left a huge impact on me apparently...
Vigor
Vigor - 2/14/2024, 10:13 AM
@lazlodaytona - me either. I'm gonna find 2 hours to go rewatch deadpool2 this weekend
JFerguson
JFerguson - 2/14/2024, 9:55 AM
Still a better actor than Dakota Johnson apparently
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 2/14/2024, 10:05 AM
I'd rather have Longshot
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/14/2024, 10:20 AM
he whipped sub-zero's Icey a55 back in MK.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/14/2024, 10:43 AM
@harryba11zack - He needed Scorpion to help him beat Sub-Zero. But he did beat Goro's ass....sadly.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 2/14/2024, 10:34 AM
Well I hope they don’t make him look like a silly douchebag again. I used to love XForce comics. Cable and Shatterstar were my favorites on the team.
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 2/14/2024, 11:12 AM
He's such an arrogant prick.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 2/14/2024, 11:48 AM
Almost shat my pants of laughing when the X Force dies in DP 2.
dragon316
dragon316 - 2/14/2024, 3:44 PM
He got shaft in sequel didn’t do much

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