STAR WARS: Dave Filoni Describes Anakin Skywalker As "The Greatest Jedi Of All Time" - Do You Agree?

STAR WARS: Dave Filoni Describes Anakin Skywalker As "The Greatest Jedi Of All Time" - Do You Agree?

Talking about what fans can expect from Ahsoka, showrunner Dave Filoni described Anakin Skywalker as "the greatest Jedi of all time," but is it a sentiment you agree with? Weigh in with your thoughts here!

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By JoshWilding - Jul 14, 2023 04:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: sffgazette.com

In a newly released Ahsoka featurette, what appeared to be a pretty harmless statement on the surface from showrunner Dave Filoni has since generated quite the discourse online.

Talking about where we find Ahsoka Tano in the series, he said, "We're telling the story of this character who has been trained by the greatest Jedi of all time in Anakin Skywalker."

Star Wars fans either strongly agree with Filoni's sentiments or are horrified that he could consider the Jedi who became Darth Vader greater even than Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda. Is the franchise veteran on to something here, though? 

Filoni, who started his career at Lucasfilm developing The Clone Wars alongside George Lucas has long said he believes Anakin fulfilled his destiny as The Chosen One, even if it meant destroying many of the Jedi in the process. We also can't dismiss the fact that, in terms of his abilities to wield the Force alone, the hero-turned-villain is indeed the greatest (or most powerful) Jedi. 

Like most things Star Wars-related, we're not surprised Filoni's comments have generated a small level of controversy (things have quickly gotten ugly on social media), but the most interesting takeaway here is the title character being trained by Anakin is clearly something Ahsoka is going to devote a lot of time to exploring. 

You can check out Filoni's comments in full below. 

Set after the fall of the Empire, Ahsoka follows the former Jedi Knight Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to a vulnerable galaxy. 

In addition to Rosario Dawson in the title role, the series stars Natasha Liu Bordizzo as Sabine Wren, Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Hera Syndulla, the late Ray Stevenson as Baylan Skoll, Ivanna Sakhno as Shin Hati, Diana Lee Inosanto as Morgan Elsbeth, David Tennant as Huyang, Lars Mikkelsen as Grand Admiral Thrawn, and Eman Esfandi appearing as Ezra Bridger. 

Ahsoka was written by Dave Filoni, who executive produces alongside Jon Favreau, Kathleen Kennedy, Colin Wilson, and Carrie Beck. Directors include Filoni, Steph Green, Peter Ramsey, Jennifer Getzinger, Geeta Vasant Patel, and Rick Famuyiwa. 

Ahsoka will launch exclusively on Disney+ on August 23 with a two-episode premiere. 

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/14/2023, 4:54 AM
Unequivocally. You seen Clone Wars? Ani’s the greatest Sith Lord too.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/14/2023, 7:13 AM
@PlusUltra - He may have been the most powerful Jedi, but that doesn't make him the BEST Jedi.

I have a real hard time calling him the greatest Jedi considering he turned to the Sith. Isn't that kind of a pre-requisite to being a good Jedi? Isn't being able to spot when the Dark Side is afoot, and not falling for its temptations a very important part of being a good Jedi?
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 7/14/2023, 7:31 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I would say, absolutely yes.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 7/14/2023, 1:57 PM
@CorndogBurglar - you are 100% correct on this. Obi-Wan might be the greatest. Maybe Qui-Gon or Yoda. I may be missing another candidate.
Cap1
Cap1 - 7/14/2023, 4:54 AM
Isn’t this missing the entire point tho
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2023, 6:28 AM
@Cap1 - ...how?
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 7/14/2023, 8:34 AM
@Origame - Because Anakin is a dumbass, didn't we all see the prequels? They converted the voice of james earl jones and tall presence of David Prowse into a whiny bitch in Hayden Christensen.
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2023, 8:37 AM
@mastakilla39 - yeah. And I saw that whiney brat beat dooku, who neither obi wan nor Yoda were capable of beating.

Him switching sides was enough for the dark side to win out in comparison to the thousands of jedi that exist.

Not to mention all the sh!t in clone wars which makes it clear anakin is star wars jesus.
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2023, 8:40 AM
@mastakilla39 - also, for that meme about how easily convinced anakin was, it's clear Palpatine has been manipulating anakin towards the dark side ever since he first became a jedi. It's such a corrupting influence, he's legitimately surprised and ashamed he killed dooku in that moment.

And apparently, clunky dialog that's always been in star wars is reason anakin isn't the greatest jedi 🙄
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 7/14/2023, 7:17 PM
@mastakilla39 - he’s right though. Sand is coarse and rough and irritating, and it does get everywhere. Sand sucks.
ossie85
ossie85 - 7/14/2023, 4:55 AM

I mean, he is basically the cause of the Jedi collapse..

I'd say worst Jedi ever
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 5:26 AM
@ossie85 - You could also say the Jedi Order is the reason for his collapse.
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2023, 6:30 AM
@ossie85 - he also ended the sith entirely (f@#$ rise of skywalker) and ushered in Luke to rebuild the jedi.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/14/2023, 7:10 AM
@Drace24 - I wouldn't say that. He wasn't ready yet to be a Jedi Master. He hadn't even taken the trials. They only put him on the council at Palpatine's request.

And Palpatine was all up in Anakin's head. If it wasn't for Palpatine filling Anakin's head with delusions of grandeur then none of it would happened.
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 7:29 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Palpatine only abused Anakin's anger, fear and frustrations. None of which would have existed had the Jedi Order not been so cold and arrogant. Had they just allowed Anakin to feel a little bit of love, had they allowed him to mourn his mother, had they not so completely abandoned everything they stood for, then Palpatine could have never wielded so much influence over Anakin. The Jedi Order preaches no attachments to avoid the dark side, yet it was the complete lack of a support system that lead Anakin to the dark side. The Jedi brought upon their own downfall.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/14/2023, 7:33 AM
@Drace24 - I don't disagree with any of that. But at the end of the day the question is, "Would Anakin have turned on the Jedi if Palpatine didn't mess with him?"

I don't think so. He was conflicted even with Palpatine messing with him. If Palpatine isn't there, I would guess that after Padme gave birth, Anakin would have either left the Jedi willingly, or he would have been kicked out.

I highly doubt he would have gone on a murderous Rampage and killed every Jedi he laid eyes on.
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 7:44 AM
@CorndogBurglar - How is that the question of the day? Palpatine DID mess with him. And the Jedi, whose entire philosophy has turned into avoiding the dark side at all costs, were powerless to stop it and in fact opened the door for him. And that ended their entire Order. One dude managed to do this! How is this not a failure of the Jedi Order and their entire philosophy, showing how much they have abandoned their principles about love and peace?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/14/2023, 7:53 AM
@Drace24 - It's the question that should be asked when considering if Anakin was the best Jedi ever. He was tempted by the dark side and Palpatine and failed to realize what was happening.

Despite everything you said about the Jedi being true, he fell to the dark side. Which would never be a good choice, even back before the Jedi became the way they were.

In fact, that's kind of a huge pre-requisite of being a good Jedi. Don't. Fall. To. The. Dark. Side. And that's always been preached within the Jedi. Again, even before they started acting the way they were.

A good Jedi would have realized Palpatine was screwing with him and would never decide to join him. Much less go on a killing spree of all the people he knew.

So that's why that question is important. If Palpatine hadn't been screwing with him, would Anakin have fallen to the Dark Side? Probably not. Which is why I don't blame the Jedi for him turning. Were the Jedi's ideologies extreme at this point? Yes. But Anakin never would have turned to the dark side based on that alone.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 7/14/2023, 7:55 AM
@Drace24 - the Order didn’t help and Anakin definitely had anger issues, but I think we are forgetting a big old geriatric senile figure that aided Anakin to make the turn to the dark side.
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 3:22 PM
@Arthorious - I keep explaining that Palpatine only managed to abuse Anakin's fear and anger because the Order made him afraid and angry. Yes, obviously Palpatine is the grand manipulator. But it's the Jedi Order's job to keep peace in the galaxy which they have royally [frick]ed up because they gave Palpatine everything he needed to corrupt their executioner.
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 3:48 PM
@CorndogBurglar - "If Palpatine hadn't been screwing with him, would Anakin have fallen to the Dark Side? Probably not."

I mean... yeah, in such a perfect scenario I guess Anakin would be perfect. But that's just not a fair or realistic viewpoint. Why is that question more relevant then the question of "Would Anakin have fallen to the dark side if the Jedi Order had allowed him to love, aka have a support system? Probably not. Because then Palpatine wouldn't have had a way to manipulate his emotions." You can't just remove one factor and not the other. Clearly both played a role and that just proves that the Jedi failed to protect itself and therefor brought upon their own downfall.

Also, Anakin DID figure out what Palpatine was doing. And then he was shown the exact thing Palpatine told him about the Jedi. That they will take power. Which is what they did. And when Anakin had to decide between an Order that has only ever made him miserable and Padmé, the ONE person in his support system that he wasn't even allowed to have at all... then I can see why he would make the decision that he did.

This is just how humans work. All humans. What happened to Anakin could happen to everyone. The prequels are actually a very realistic depiction of indoctrination. But indoctrination only really works when abusing a person's emotional vulnerability. Which the Jedi Order created in Anakin.

If you define being a Jedi as being perfect and an unfallible arbiter of goodness, then fine. Anakin is probably not that. But if we apply the same thing to the rest of the Jedi Order then Anakin would certainly not have a lot of competition when it comes to who is the best.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 7/14/2023, 4:58 AM
No
bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/14/2023, 5:16 AM
Dave gets it, he fulfilled the prophecy. He brought balance to the force. Now he was kind of a dick for a couple decades.. but in the end he killed the Emperor and, oh wait.. somehow he came back!
Drace24
Drace24 - 7/14/2023, 5:25 AM
@bobevanz - No, he killed the Emperor. His spirit lingered and possessed a failing clone body. But he did die.

Look, I'm not the biggest fan of this either, but to be fair, Sith ghosts have been part of the lore for decades and prophecy still remains true.
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