James Gunn Officially On Board To Direct SUICIDE SQUAD Relaunch With "Mostly All-New Cast"

@Prime8 - We thought the same thing about Josh Whedon.

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@superbigguy32 - Well that would basically been a new movie. Really with the characters they had, I was thinking they should have gone the Superman The Animated Series Legacy route, having Darkseid bring superman back and brainwashing him to attack earth

@dracula - That’s what they did when WB went from Zack’s movie to Josh...it was a brand new movie, right???

@superbigguy32 - no they changed a few things, but it was still the same story

@dracula - "Most of the movie was still Snyder."

Not really, it's easily noticeable that tons of things were cut/reshot/changed.

Most of Superman's/Clark's scenes are new or reshot by Whedon, with the awful cgi mouth and terrible green screens instead of real locations.

Same with Affleck/Batman, he looked great in the earlier trailers, like he did on BvS, then in the movie he looks mostly like sh*t, because he went from being in a great shape to be an overweight botox face alcoholic that was depressed and going through a divorce, all of that with his wig looking worse than ever, like Wonder Woman's wig doesn't look good either in the reshot scenes.

And basically all of the stuff reshot by Whedon looks much worse and cheaper, and that's a lot of the final movie we got.

Snyder's visual style, like it or not, is much more spectacular than most directors, while Whedon comes from making tv shows (which I love) and has a very different style, which can look great sometimes with the right budget and time (and the help from Marvel's vfx people), but looks much worse than Snyder's, specially when he doesn't have the time or the budget to spend in reshape such a big movie like this one.

Whedon's visual style and the tone he tends to use is very different to Snyder's, and you can easily see how much he changed because it's very different to what Snyder would have done and looks much much worse and cheaper, because he had no time or budget to do a better job and his main actors were barely available to give their best (Cavill was filming the Mission Impossible movie with the moustache and Affleck was soaked in alcohol and botox).

Warner Bros thought that in a few months with a few millions Whedon could turn a 2 part Snyder Justice League movie in The Avengers 2.0, and it just didn't work, they should have given him more time and money, and wait for Cavill to finish his MI scenes with the moustache, and wait for Affleck to get his sh*t together, and maybe then start from scratch leaving all the Snyder stuff behind (which is what you were suggesting), but that would have meant that they would have wasted probably hundreds of millions (which they actually did anyway), and the movie would have been seen as a disaster, like the whole DC film universe that was trying to compete with the MCU, so they ultimately decided to give Whedon a chance to "fix" what he could and the result was an awful movie, it could have made like 1'5 billions if they had allowed Whedon to do his own stuff with enough time and money (or if they had kept from the very beginning more control over what Snyder was doing), but they didn't. :-(







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@Prime8 - yeahhh but what about the rape and peado tweets??...lest we not forget hahah. Nah kidding - glad to see Gunn back and this is hopefully what the DCU needs

@superbigguy32 - No, YOU thought the same. Many of us were skeptical of that project ever since watching BvS and JL's release date being pushed back. To me is just looks like they slapped Whedon's name on WB's mess. And then placed the blame of its failure on him.

I doubt Gunn would dive into a similar predicament no matter how desperate he might be for another film. Nore would Whedon had if he knew JL's overall outcome.