RUMOR: AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY's Plans For Doctor Doom Completely Changes THE FANTASTIC FOUR's Post-Credits Scene

RUMOR: AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY's Plans For Doctor Doom Completely Changes THE FANTASTIC FOUR's Post-Credits Scene

A new Avengers: Doomsday rumour sheds light on the Russo Brothers' unique plans for Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom, and how the villain factors into the movie's story.

By JoshWilding - Dec 29, 2025 12:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Despite the seemingly endless list of rumours and theories that can be found online, it's apparent that we actually know very little about Marvel Studios' plans for Avengers: Doomsday

While we can piece together certain plot beats, the movie's evolution from Avengers: The Kang Dynasty to Avengers: Doomsday has turned the Multiverse Saga on its head; Kang the Conqueror is out, and in his place is Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom. 

If the Russo Brothers are following the comics, Doom will set out to "save" the Multiverse by creating a new reality—Battleworld—that he rules over. That seems a likely destination for Avengers: Secret Wars, but how we get there promises to be a lot of fun.

Some new intel comes our way today from @MyTimeToShineH. In a subscriber-only post on X, the insider writes, "The difference between Doomsday and the other Avengers films is that Doom is on the heroes’ side for much of it. Obviously, he’s only pretending - big surprise! But that does make it a bit different from the other films."

Will Doom win the trust of Earth's Mightiest Heroes by presenting himself as an ally who shares the same face as Tony Stark, a.k.a. the Invincible Iron Man? We wouldn't discount the possibility, especially as Downey playing both characters surely has to come into play at some point. 

What's really interesting about this rumour is how it changes what we thought we knew about The Fantastic Four: First Steps' mid-credits scene.

While it initially seemed like Doom might be about to kidnap young Franklin Richards, that interaction may have been the villain's attempt to win Marvel's First Family to his side. How? By presenting himself as an ally who was sharing a tender moment with a child not unlike the one he supposedly lost in an Incursion.

There are also rumblings on social media—and these are less verifiable—that the fourth Avengers: Doomsday teaser trailer will show the Fantastic Four's ship arriving in Wakanda, with Doom in tow! We'll have to wait and see whether that's true. 

Avengers: Doomsday officially stars Chris Hemsworth, Anthony Mackie, Winston Duke, Tom Hiddleston, Sebastian Stan, Letitia Wright, Paul Rudd, and Robert Downey Jr. Wyatt Russell, Simu Liu, Tenoch Huerta Mejia, Florence Pugh, Danny Ramirez, David Harbour, Hannah John-Kamen, and Lewis Pullman all make their Avengers franchise debuts in the movie.

The Fantastic Four: First Steps leads Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Ebon Moss-Bachrach, and Joseph Quinn join them, as do X-Men franchise stars Kelsey Grammer, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Alan Cumming, Rebecca Romijn, James Marsden, with Deadpool & Wolverine star Channing Tatum.

Chris Evans is also officially confirmed to reprise his role as Steve Rogers, as is India Rose Hemsworth as Love. The Hollywood trades have reported that Hayley Atwell and Ryan Reynolds will appear as Peggy Carter and Deadpool, respectively.

The Russo Brothers direct Avengers: Doomsday from a screenplay by Stephen McFeely, with whom they previously collaborated on the Avengers and Captain America franchises. Loki and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness's Michael Waldron is also working on the script.

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released on December 18, 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive on December 17, 2027.

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Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 12/29/2025, 12:19 PM
Do marvel studios even know what they're doing anymore?
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/29/2025, 12:27 PM
@Nonameforme - They're makimg it up as they go along. I would like to know how many, if any, core writers and editors from the 2008 to 2019 heyday remain at Marvel Studios today.
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 12/29/2025, 3:05 PM
@GeneralZod - i kind of feel like they've always just been making it up as they go along , they just got like , really bad at it.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/29/2025, 3:48 PM
@Nonameforme - My theory is that Marvel Studios had -- had -- a nice cadre of long-time Gen X comic book readers-became-film-creators/writers (e.g., Kevin Feige, Jon Favreau, James Gunn, the Russo Brothers, Stephen McFeely and Christopher Marcus -- all in their 50s today, they would have been heavily influenced by the story-telling coming out during the Jim Shooter era of comics) that put together much/most of the 2008 to 2019 Phase 1/2/3 arc ... and then Feige, free of Ike Perlmutter who wanted to keep Marvel a "boys/men" brand, embraced full-on M-She-U around 2020 and brought in a lot of younger writers that know, but don't understand, the source material. And it all went to shit from there.

Maybe I'm totally wrong ...
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 12/29/2025, 5:50 PM
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whatthetruck
whatthetruck - 12/29/2025, 9:12 PM
@Nonameforme - This is what happens when people cry "formulaic" and whine about restrictive production process. You get incoherent garble because some lib thinks it would be better to do what they want and the studio doesn't care because money's kinda tight.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 12/29/2025, 12:20 PM
You cant change the context of a three second scene that has no context , go take your meds sister
DocSpock
DocSpock - 12/29/2025, 12:30 PM
@Malatrova15 -

Strangely well said.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 12/29/2025, 1:28 PM
@DocSpock - these guys nonsense push me to sanity , im tired chief.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2025, 12:27 PM
Interesting if true.

I think it’s intriguing to have someone like Doom present himself as an ally to certain heroes by perhaps even using that he looks like Tony to his advantage if/when he finds that out in the MCU…

However that’s about as deep as I would want the connection between the 2 to go aside from perhaps even using elements of Tony & Victor’s rivalry in the comics since I would say after Reed , the former is the latter’s biggest rivalry and even somewhat serves as a dark mirror to an extent in terms of both of their egos and the magic/science equation but I would not want Tony be a variant of Doom present vice versa.

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Anyway , I honestly can’t wait to see his look and RDJ’s take on the character at this point even with my concerns!!.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 12/29/2025, 2:35 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Franklin heals his scarred face by making him look like Tony, not how he did prior to being scarred, discovers where his face comes from one way or another and uses that to use the Avengers to aid his evil plan seems a sound enough call for a narrative to go with.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2025, 3:05 PM
@Apophis71 - ehhh , why would Franklin make him look like that specifically?.

I can see perhaps Franklin healing him and he just happens to look like Tony akin to Chris Evans Steve Rogers & Johnny Storm which he then couid use to his advantage.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 12/29/2025, 3:34 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Cos he is a baby, not everything they do makes total sense but his Dad can view other timelines with his portals and his baby will have been there with him potentially watching the moment Stark does his hero thing resulting in a similarly scarred face.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 12/29/2025, 12:32 PM

The villain pretends to be good, but turns out naughty? WOW!! No one could have thought of that!

IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 12/29/2025, 12:35 PM
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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/29/2025, 12:42 PM
Doubt he atleast sees himself as a villain. Whatever plan he has for the multiverse, I could see multiple heroes (like Strange) actually side with him initially.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2025, 12:47 PM
@bkmeijer1 - very few if any good villains actually do think they are the bad guy.
creamygnome
creamygnome - 12/29/2025, 12:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah, it's better if he's not pretending. He actually thinks they are going to help him and when he crosses a line and they turn on him he'll lose it and go full villain.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 12/29/2025, 1:29 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeas, one of those 'first rules of screenwriting' - The villain is the hero of his own story.
BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 12/29/2025, 1:26 PM
"Despite the seemingly endless list of rumours and theories that can be found online"

That we're sharing here and contributing to ongoing confusion ...

(Ironic)
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/29/2025, 1:37 PM
Cant wait to watch this slop 😆
Rpendo
Rpendo - 12/29/2025, 1:39 PM
@vectorsigma - I can’t wait to read you over-using and mis-using the word “slop” for the next year.
Fogs
Fogs - 12/29/2025, 2:10 PM
@Rpendo - that and "desperate"
Rpendo
Rpendo - 12/29/2025, 2:48 PM
@Fogs - we should turn it into a drinking game…
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/29/2025, 7:43 PM
@Rpendo - i applaud the confidence on this movie 😭
Pimpanzee
Pimpanzee - 12/29/2025, 1:40 PM
"We wouldn't discount the possibility, especially as Downey playing both characters surely has to come into play at some point." It absolutely will not come into play. Doom won't be a Stark variant
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 12/29/2025, 2:40 PM
@Pimpanzee - Nope, he won't be a Stark variant and until proven otherwise assuming Franklin changed his face instead of JUST healing it to make him look like Stark. Likely explained by the kid having SEEN Iron Man's last moments through his Dad's trans-dimensional portal window thingies prior to Doom going to get the magic baby to heal his face (not knowing there was more to his powers than that).
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/30/2025, 10:21 AM
@Pimpanzee - Delusional. He's 1000% a Stark variant. They cast Iron Man brother. If you think Holland isn't going to have these uber dramatic trauma scenes with the villain who looks like Tony under the mask, you're high. There's a reason Chris Evans is back. It's a nostalgia jerk. The entire plot is one big nostalgia jerk.
Pimpanzee
Pimpanzee - 12/31/2025, 12:28 PM
@McMurdo - Remember my name when you're leaving the theater.
Pimpanzee
Pimpanzee - 12/31/2025, 12:31 PM
@Apophis71 - That's not writing. No audience would follow or accept anything you just typed.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 12/31/2025, 1:17 PM
@Pimpanzee - Most would be fine with it if well executed or at least certainly more so than him being a Stark Variant anyway.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/31/2025, 4:42 PM
@Pimpanzee - absolutely brother.
Spike101
Spike101 - 12/29/2025, 1:49 PM
Can we go back to guessing whether Sadie Sink is playing Jean Grey in Spider-Man please?
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/30/2025, 10:22 AM
@Spike101 - would be a huge miscast if she is.
Spike101
Spike101 - 12/30/2025, 12:49 PM
@McMurdo - ah no comment on that one, you think it would be bad then? I’ve not seen her in action myself. I’m just getting bored of the endless speculation regarding a movie that is still 12 months away.
PC04
PC04 - 12/29/2025, 1:51 PM
I think I've said this before but I have to again...

If we get a stupid scene where Spider-man is about to demolish Doom, then Doom's face mask falls off and he looks like Tony and Spider-man hesitates and goes "Mr. Stark?"- leading to Doom being able to recover- I will throw up at how horribly predictable that is.
Fogs
Fogs - 12/29/2025, 2:11 PM
@PC04 - Huge chance this will happen, yes.
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