Avengers Episode 10 Preview

Rokker10 @ That wouldn't be hard lol...

DC is gold!

Avengers tho, has a longgggggg way to go till it touches the JLA toon!



Avengers is a good show though.

GR8 find @ ED!

I love this show. But for JLU and X-Men.

I´m not from that time [of X-men] and I kinda of hate the fact that Shadowcat was changed for Jubilee. Great plot and good animation thow.

Hate JL ,don´t know why. Like Superman and Batman animated series. But I don´t like very much of this series.

I am in love with this show. It's the Marvel cartoon I've been waiting years for. I can't believe we have Disney to thank, but there you go. Bodes well for Disney's Marvel movies.

I had my doubts about this series but its actually not too bad.
@deadpool - The X men was awesome

@intruder - Fair fair. I did love the Cable episodes.

One of the most frustrating things about this site is that so many of you are just BRAINWASHED!

Most people that were first introduced to the X-Men in the '90s seem to automatically assume that the animated series was the be all and end all! NOT SO! The 1988 episode "Pryde of The X-Men" featured a much more accurate take of higher quality than the 1992 series could ever hope to! Hell, I thought the two X-Men guest-appearances on Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends in '82 were done better than Saban's piss-poor attempt!

What exactly was it that everyone liked about the '90s X-men 'toon? Morph? The egregious liberties taken with the storylines? How about the ridiculous overuse of black ink on shaded areas? C'mon! The artwork was crap! The stories were rushed and the scripts were cliched and heavily derivative! Give me a break! Hannah Barbera's 1968 Fantastic Four cartoon was probably the truest cartoon adaptation of a Marvel property that there ever was!! HB captured the characterizations perfectly!

As for Earth's Mightiest Heroes - in many respects, this new Avengers cartoon has ALREADY surpassed Justice League!!! Some liberties have been taken and alterations were made, but at least they got the founding roster right! JL ... not so much!

Wally West was substituted for Barry Allen, as was Hawkgirl for Aquaman and John Stewart for Hal Jordan! Not to mention that Supes and Bats were NOT founding members of the League! Those two were likely included in the lineup from the get-go because the timing of the release of the show was meant to capitilize on the success of Grant Morrison's successful run on the comic book that began in 1996!

WB/DC obviously was attempting to create synergy between the TV show and the comic book to re-established the JLA as a multi-media brand! Ironically the SuperFriends cartoons from 1977 - 1979 actually featured a truer adaptation of the classic satellite era JLA!! I even preferred Jeff Matsuda's take on the JLA from "The Batman" animated series from a few years ago to the revisionist JL we were given in the 2000 Cartoon Network series!

On top of that, Bruce Timm's character designs turned me off (lantern jaws and barrell chests on EVERY male hero?)! I mean stop being lazy and give each character distinctive features, y'know? Admittedly, the Justice League cartoon was an absolute classic, but I STILL feel it could have been waaaay better and I think it ended prematurely! Compare the first few eps of JL to JL:The New Frontier and you'll see what I mean!

In contrast, The Avengers toon is SO good that it has me salivating for more with each passing episode! Episode 2 was off the chain! Louis Letterier take note: THIS is how the Hulk should be portrayed!! Follow the comics and they will come! Haha! And you'll notice that, in EMH, the teams' chronological history is being closely followed! This cartoon is AWESOME!

i liked JL but at times it got boring to me, EMH on the other hand, tho i kno only a few episodes have shown has left me feeling all exicited n stuff like its saturday morning all over again! Awesome show and i LOVE how it dances on the ORIGINAL sotryline abit. sick show indeed

Batman: The Animated Series is still my favourite cartoon of all time, let alone superhero cartoon. However I think that this Avengers cartoon can challenge B:TAS supremacy in my mind over time. I really don't think they could have done a better job with the characterizations, stories and scripts! Excelsior!

@deadpool72 - Please go back and compare the two again! You're sadly mistaken! Maybe you're just not that familiar with the old comic books! ALL of the Marvel/Saban cartoons from the '90s sucked! PERIOD! That's not even up for debate! You can't seriously be defending the unwatchable Spider-Man Unlimited "Secret Wars" episodes! Next you'll tell me that Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers (also produced by Saban)was better than Voltron! That's if you even know who Voltron is!?!

xmen was cool when we were kids but it sucked

Is there really only four more episodes left for the avengers this season?

This is my favorite Cartoon as well although I will say JLU is right there with it! I love the HULK and Cap and all the avengers and I just love EVERYTHING this show has done. I honestly hope it stays around for awhile my 4 & 3 year old look forward to watching it every thursday when they wake up. I have been waiting for this show for a long long time. Thank you Marvel/Disney!!! Now its time for the live action version

DC has outdone Marvel in anything to do with animation.

I will be missing the wings in the Avengers movie(I hate the painted ones)

So now we're getting Wonder Man. This show just keeps getting better and better every week. I can't say enough good about it.

JonF: you make some good points about the Avengers show. I'm also loving how they follow the basic structure of the classic series. I also rather agree with you about the X-Men from the 90s. I really enjoyed that show at the time, but I look back on it now, and it hasn't aged very well, imho. The animation is atrocious and the dialogue is often very stilted and rife with clichés. The short-lived Wolverine and the X-Men was better, imo.

@Knightstalker - You see how they had the Hulk acting all surly and disagreeable? That's how he acted back in the first few issues of Avengers! He's also shown as having incredible strength - taking out Giant-Man, Thor and the Executioner with ease! In the 2008 film, the Hulk was running from the army and being overpowered by the Abomination! The Hulk does NOT run from a fight! EVER! Letterier's film to me didn't fully capture the true essence of the Hulk as a character! That was what I meant as far as his portrayal. EMH is something of an amalgamated representation of the Marvel film Universe an the comic book analog. So this is the attitude I'd like to see transferred to film when the Avengers movie comes out as the timing of this show's release is clearly meant to whet appetites for the upcoming feature film!

As for your comments on the '92 X-Men series: you obviously have poor taste and are possiblly being influenced by a euphoric sense of nolstalgia! The art in "Pryde of the X-Men" was FAR better than any episode of the entire 1990s X-Men cartoon!! Take out an old issue of Uncanny X-Men with Jim Lee art and compare it to a screen capture of the X-Men cartoon; the artwork was horrendous! As far as the Brotherhood shown in "..Pryde..", Juggy was put in the mix to counteract Colossus - which he did - unlike in X3 where they didn't even touch!!

How many Marvel animated adaptations have you seen? Apparently not all of them! Spidey and his Amazing Friends perfectly captured the spirit and tone of the comic book and the characters! Sure it was intended for younger audiences, but that show was an indisputable classic! The X-Men as seen in the episode "The Origin of Firestar" are almost identical to the comics!

BTW, Wolverine is a cold-blooded killer. How much of that was shown in the '92 series? And why was Morph even in there? Not to mention the Beast being overused, the Phoenix Saga being ruined, the pacing being too fast, the editing being horrible, etc. I absolutely hated that show! Ugh!

@Knightstalker: As a big fan of DC and EMH, I gotta argue with ya:

"1. Batman in the JL. Oh hell no. Batman doesn't play well with others."

Batman spent about eleven issues of his 70+ year existence being on his own before Robin was introduced. The Bat Family is one of the DCU's largest and most varied superhero groups. And the JLA is a lot better with Batman's genius mind and human perspective.

I don't really see any reason why Batman shouldn't have access to an organization of superpowered beings to help with threats he can't handle alone.

"2. Hulk with an intelligent brain (see above)"

There are a lot of different Hulk personalities. This is the one that was featured in the early Lee/Kirby Hulk and Avengers comics - more of a semi-intelligent brute than a screaming maniac.

"3. Sidekicks. What superhero in his right mind exposes a child to such horrific dangers?"

It all depends on the context. Take the original Robin, for instance - he had trained since birth as an acrobat. His crazy flips and jumps made him almost impossible to hit. Or Kid Flash, whose speed powers make him just as tough to fight as the Flash himself.

If we're going to suspend disbelief to the point where a man in his early twenties can master every martial art known to man and use them to fight crime dressed as a bat with only his fists and gadgets, and does this for over a decade without being killed, then I think we can accept some kids fighting crime.