JOKER: An R-Rated Clip From The DC Comics Movie Has Leaked Online - SPOILERS

JOKER: An R-Rated Clip From The DC Comics Movie Has Leaked Online - SPOILERS

A 2+ minute clip from Joker has leaked online straight out of this year's Venice Film Festival, and it features a key moment from the movie which is most definitely R-Rated. Check it out after the jump...

By JoshWilding - Sep 10, 2019 08:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Joker isn't set to arrive in theaters until next month, but the decision to premiere the movie at the Venice and Toronto Film Festivals means we already have detailed breakdowns of the movie's plot along with spoiler-filled reactions and reviews. Now, a clip has unexpectedly leaked online which appears to have been recorded in Venice last month.

The footage shows Joaquin Phoenix's Clown Prince of Crime appearing on Murray Franklin's talk show, and as the two men argue about what's been happening in Gotham City, things soon reach an violent and explosive climax. Needless to say, it's easy to see why Joker has earned an "R" Rating!

Perhaps the biggest takeaway here is that Phoenix isn't playing Arthur Fleck as an unhinged madman; instead, he's clearly someone with serious mental health issues, and that alone points to us getting a very different take on the character. We've known that would be the case from the start, of course, but this may not be the version of the villain some fans want to see. 

This leaked clip obviously contains some spoilers, but nothing too major and certainly nothing that hasn't already been leaked online or reported since the premiere back in August. Honestly, if you're not already sold on Joker, then this may very well convince you that it will be a must-watch. 

We won't share the clip here, but if you want to check it out, you can do so at your own risk (via Redditby clicking here

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of all the biggest reveals in the final trailer for Joker!

Arthur's Laugh

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Joaquin Phoenix recently revealed that Arthur Fleck suffers from a condition which causes him to spontaneously burst into laughter, and that's evident from this moment in the trailer. 

Looking at other scenes, it appears as if gets him into trouble on a number of occasions throughout the movie (and is probably why he gets beaten up on the subway). This realistic way of explaining the villain's manic cackle is a smart move, and it's fair to say that as sinister laughs go, Phoenix has absolutely nailed it. 

As the trailer continues, though, it quickly become apparent that Arthur is a damaged man... 
 

A Damaged Mind

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Talking to what appears to be a court appointed social worlker/therapist, it's clear that Arthur is struggling with his already fragile psyche as he talks about only having "negative thoughts."

The psychiatrist appears to be genuinely freaked out by her patient and she doesn't want to see him again. No longer having someone to talk to might be part of why his psyche unravels, and Arthur watching over someone in a hospital bed points to him losing his mother (who he has an unhealthily close relationship with based on that shot of him bathing her in the teaser). 

This could also be where Zazie Beetz's character comes in, but we'll get to that a little later!
 

Humiliation

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Arthur dreams of being a stand up comic, but what looks like his big break actually turns into a horrible, humiliating experience. Late night talk show host Franklin Murray roasts Arthur and uses his failed set in a comedy club as a way of embarrassing him, something which clearly doesn't go down well with the already unhinged comic (check out that look on his face). 

We know that Arthur - as "The Joker" - ends up appearing on Franklin's show, and while we have no idea how he makes that happen, the dynamic between them has clearly changed at that point. 

Rumour has it that Joker will borrow a key moment from The Dark Knight Returns when he guns Franklin down on live television, but that would be a pretty underwhelming way for his story to end...unless, of course, seeing graphic violence like that on TV is what causes Gotham to descend into madness.
 

Romance

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The prevailing theory is that Arthur will have a creepy crush on his neighbour, but they seem to be getting on surprisingly well here. She's certainly not fighting off his advances (despite how weird he looks) and it's hard not to wonder whether she could end up being a new version of Harley Quinn!

Yes, that would be a departure from the comics, but she wouldn't necessarily even have to share the same name and profession as her comic book counterpart.

It's also possible that she might encourage him to head down his dark path, especially if she's among Gotham City's disenfranchised. This may very well be a fantasy sequence on Arthur's part, but it's hard to escape the feeling that everything we thought we knew about the two characters is actually going to be quite a bit different. We'll just have to wait and see! 
 

A Revolution In Gotham City

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For whatever reason, it seems like Gotham City is really going to rally around The Joker and everything he represents. There's clearly going to be a pretty strong political slant to this movie and the Clown Prince of Crime may very well be the man who gives the 1% a voice to share their displeasure with how the rich have control of the city. 

Putting some of the dots together, it looks like The Joker kills someone while wearing makeup or a mask, and that essentially goes "viral" in the press and encourages others to follow suit.

That means The Joker can blend into the crowd, and based on Arthur's reaction in some of those shots, he appears to be very happy with the way Gotham is rallying around his cause. 
 

Thomas Wayne

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We know that Thomas Wayne will be running for Mayor in Joker, but something is going to lead to him crossing paths with Arthur Fleck. Returning to rumours from quite some time ago, that might be because Arthur's mother tells him that she once had an affair with Thomas, which leads to him believing that the head of Wayne Enterprises must be his father.

Now, it would obviously be a bold move to make Arthur Bruce Wayne's half-brother, but we know this movie will deliver a bold new take on the villain's origin story, so it's possible! 

Either way, Arthur's condition really doesn't seem to go down well with Thomas and the billionaire punches him. Now, he may have said or done something to deserve that, but this could also be an indication that Thomas won't be a particularly sympathetic character here. 
 

Riots

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Gotham City will seemingly be under siege in Joker and these cops (who are in hot pursuit of Arthur) feel the wrath of its citizens. The masks confirm that they're all part of the Clown Prince of Crime's new following, while it looks like the entire city will rally against those in charge. 

What the outcome of that will be is hard to say, but if this movie is an origin story for Gotham as well as the titular character, then maybe Arthur's actions are what lead to it becoming such a terrible place?

With him there to show people that they can basically do whatever they like, normal people might become more accepting of the maniacs who one day terrorise them while battling The Batman, and it's also feasible that he'll inspire a whole new generation of monsters. Either way, director Todd Phillips clearly has a lot of big ideas on the table. 
 

"Joker"

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We still don't know how The Dark Knight's version of The Joker got his scars, but we do know that this take on the Harlequin of Hate decides that he will be known as "Joker." Franklin Murray looks thoroughly perplexed and something tells us that these two will write Arthur off...much to their regret a little later that evening! 

Marc Maron's role is said to be a small one and based on this, he's probably a producer of some sort.

The question is, if The Joker is a wanted man at this stage in the proceedings, why would Murray have him on his show? There have been an awful lot of supposed plot leaks for Joker, but chances are this tale won't play out quite the way most of us expected...

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regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/10/2019, 8:47 AM
I get this clip being released on reddit...

But come on. This is the climax of the movie. Isn’t there some liability that comes with posting this?
litobirdy
litobirdy - 9/10/2019, 8:56 AM
@regularmovieguy - aww man really? that's the last part of the movie? i was hoping it'd be like the beginning of the 3rd act.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/10/2019, 9:06 AM
@regularmovieguy - is that really the climax? Because it’s pretty tame and unsurprising compared to what others were suggesting.
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 9/10/2019, 8:49 AM
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 9/10/2019, 8:51 AM
@theFUZZ008 - No, but I seen the porno with Sun Doobiest
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 9/10/2019, 8:53 AM
His joker voice is weird but he goes to a more sinister deeper sounding voice briefly which I liked
KWilly
KWilly - 9/10/2019, 9:00 AM
I thought he was gonna kill the whole audience, Dark Knight Returns style.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 9/10/2019, 9:01 AM
There are four other clips as well. One of those is pretty brutal. All five are darn good though.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 9/10/2019, 9:13 AM
Maybe De Niro gets to do more but I wasn't completely sold on him watching this one clip though. Maybe he has better scenes.

Other than that though I don't care for spoilers after reading the leak. Still this was pretty chilling to watch.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 9/10/2019, 9:17 AM
Okay, quick question: Why would anyone invite a killer to their talk show? I mean, they know he's killed people already, right? What were they expecting?
tmp3
tmp3 - 9/10/2019, 9:26 AM
@Necropolitan - He doesn't know he's a killer before he says so during the talk show
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/10/2019, 9:30 AM
@Necropolitan - I could see it if the incident where he killed some people was seen as a Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman situation, where he wasn’t able to be prosecuted and became the focal point of public debate.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 9/10/2019, 9:23 AM
Here’s my take... you shouldn’t look to censor a film with a troubling message, but you should definitely be willing to call one out and debate it.

I haven’t seen the film or even read that much about it, so I can’t say how it applies or doesn’t to the Joker. But I do see how taking the hero out of a story so that the villain is unopposed by anyone who even comes close to being as interesting as him is going to obviously be seen as elevating the villain and his ‘cause’.

You can criticize a film for its message and how it conveys it, and so if it seems a film celebrates angry people who lash out at society with gun violence and doesn’t really offer much deeper than that, I think it’s fair to call it out for it. Especially if the film is using famous characters popular with younger fans in order to inflate its audience.

Battabing
Battabing - 9/10/2019, 9:45 AM
@Chewtoy -

To me it feels like the film is painting a picture of how and why guys like Arthur fall through cracks and rise up through those cracks to affect society. However, the film makes it clear that what Arthur is doing is evil. This is a cautionary tale, not a how-to video.

And that's kind of the case with Batman and his rogues gallery. The great majority of Batman villains are home grown terrorists. They don't see Batman on TV and travel to Gotham to take him on. They are the symptoms of the rot infesting the city on every level. We've often said that the city gets the hero it deserves (albeit one born of violence). Well, Gotham City created the Joker, and I think it gets the villains it deserves as well.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/10/2019, 9:23 AM
"Whoa, I did not see that coming." - Nobody
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/10/2019, 9:23 AM
@litobirdy @Chewtoy

It’s definitely not “the end of the movie.” If I recall there’s a few scenes after this one. But yes it is very much a huge scene toward the end of the movie.

The beginning of the third act was also leaked and yes it is also a very violent scene (I haven’t watched it, I wouldn’t if I were you but if you’re curious it’s out there).
Battabing
Battabing - 9/10/2019, 9:25 AM
Refresh my memory, but did an article like this get posted when Endgame came out?
Tpo81
Tpo81 - 9/10/2019, 9:28 AM
I immediately regret watching that.I kinda knew that this was probably what was gonna happen in the movie based on everything I’ve read but still that sucks I just saw it.Its my own fault but it said nothing too major.Id say that is definitely pretty major but maybe not I haven’t seen it but certainly felt that way.
Battabing
Battabing - 9/10/2019, 9:29 AM
@PapaCoughlin

Poor baby. RDJ's not getting an Oscar.

tmp3
tmp3 - 9/10/2019, 9:30 AM
@Battabing - RDJ was never gonna get an Oscar nomination even if Phoenix sucked as Joker. This year's too competitive.
VileBlood
VileBlood - 9/10/2019, 10:13 AM
@Battabing - RDJ was never getting a nomination seeing as he's playing a character in a Comic Book Movie and the Oscars only nominate characters from CBMs that try really hard to not be a CBM.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 9/10/2019, 9:34 AM
@tmp3 - Ah okay. Thanks for clearing that up.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 9/10/2019, 9:38 AM
"what you get when you cross a MENTALLY ILL LONER with a SOCIETY that something something treats him like trash"....


oooohhhhhhhh boy, am I NOT going to like this aren't I? that whole scene was fine until he started his "we live in a society" rant.
"pity me please, I am the victim here, I'm mentally ill", f*ck off into the sun with that.
tmp3
tmp3 - 9/10/2019, 9:51 AM
@Spidey91 - None of the reviews say that Joker is treated as a sympathetic figure, it's a critique on people who have that kind of dangerous mind-set.
Also, the second clip that leaked makes him look like a flat-out monster, so I don't know if anyone's gonna relate with him by that point in the film
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