Champions Battle Poll (Week 5: Round 4)

Champions Battle Poll (Week 5: Round 4)

Today the battles are:
Bane vs The Punisher...
Batman vs Shang Chi...
Aquaman vs Namor the Sub-Mariner...

Feature Opinion
By GuardianDevil - Mar 22, 2013 02:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Comics
Source: Fenix122

Previous battles:

Bane beat Winter Soldier.

Aquaman beat Doc Samson.

Hulk beat Captain Marve/Shazam, but I'm gonna use Hulk in a different battle later this week. So I'm doing a different one.



As always use most iconic version, and please vote objectively.





The Punisher vs Bane










Shang Chi vs Batman









Namor the Sub-Mariner vs Aquaman









Thanks for reading and voting, please leave your opinion in the comments and feel free to discuss your decisions.
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LoudLon
LoudLon - 3/22/2013, 4:37 PM
Punisher vs Bane -- I've alwasy strenuously disliked Punisher but dude's always packing whereas Bane isn't. One pull of the trigger, deal's done.

Batman vs Shang-Chi -- I'd rate them roughly even in terms of fighting skill but Bats carries gadgets which tip the scales decidedly in his favor. Shang would put up a great fight until the second Bat drops a smoke bomb.

Aquaman vs Namor -- I give this one to Namor. While Aquaman's strength level has been inconsistent over the decades, Namor's always been a powerhouse. If the dude can slug it out with Hulk and Thing, he can handle Namor.
relentless1
relentless1 - 3/22/2013, 11:05 PM
Bane
Batman
Aquaman
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/23/2013, 12:22 AM
@VIRLEMAN
I don't think it's impossible and/or implausible that Bane might win. Bane's reflexes are at least on par with Batman, and he's also enhanced to some degree so they might actually be higher. Batman can dodge a gunshot at point blank range, the chances are that Bane can dodge gunfire as well.

So basically, if Frank can pull off a lucky shot he wins.

But if Bane can dodge enough and get close enough for it to become a h2h fight he wins.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/23/2013, 12:24 AM
Btw I matched up Namor/Aquaman because that's one of the most asked and most commonly matched up fights so I thought of give it a shot.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/23/2013, 12:53 AM
@Worldbreaker
They're different characters? I thought he just dropped the title...that's news to me.
FOOM
FOOM - 3/23/2013, 1:15 AM
If Stewie and Chris Griffin can deal with and dine on Aquaman then Namor could destroy him with his pinky.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/23/2013, 3:11 AM
Bane vs Punisher

Love the whole he has a gun arguement,it the dumbest thing to say when talking about ficional characters who have displayed above average human feats.It's also amazing how it only seems to apply to DC characters hmmmm wonder why ;)

Gun or no gun,venom or no venom Bane would destory Frank in hand to hand combat.He would easily close the gap and break his back leaving for the mob to clean up.

Batman vs Shang Chi

Even without gagets Bats takes this his peak human strength out classes Shang Chi and his speed and agility puts him slightly above him too.


Aquaman vs Namor

Aquaman wins extremely easily.Before Namor can shout Imperious Rex Author would shut down his brain with his telepathic control over marine life.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/23/2013, 3:27 AM
^^
Don't know much about Namor, do you? If you did, you would know that he too has marine telepathy just like Aquaman...Idk they might just cancel each other out, or it's whoever uses this ability first.

Btw, Shang can increase his strength to superhuman levels via chi, so the peak human thing is kinda invalid. I think Bats will win due to a slightly superior skill-level...

relentless1
relentless1 - 3/23/2013, 4:54 AM
unknownfacts and fenix have the right idea, guns are irrelevant in a superhero discussion and even if they were a factor, if batman can dodge bullets then so can bane so castle has no chance in that one
thunderforce
thunderforce - 3/23/2013, 6:23 AM
I kind of think it is impossible for any normal human to dodge a bullet , you can't dodge what you can't see . I could see if someone like Batman had bullet resistant armor but no one is going to be dodging bullets . Any super hero with no super powers is a normal human and if a normal human could dodge bullets than thousands of normal humans would not die every year from guns .
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/23/2013, 7:04 AM
@Fenix

Yeah I know Namor has marine telepathy but it's not one of his iconic abilities but something added later on to compete with Aquaman.That being said it more then likely would go to whom ever uses it first.

Shang Chi strength increase has no recorded max according to the marvel wiki so whether the increase is eqaul to or greater then Batman's can not be said so I concede to your point there.
LoudLon
LoudLon - 3/23/2013, 11:13 AM
Unknown -- keep taking pot-shots, a-hole. I have yet to read a single convincing argument from you on these matches, like, ever -- and that's including before Fight Club went tits-up. Explain to me how it's dumb that a dude who regularly packs high-caliber automatic weaponry doesn't stand a chance against an unarmed opponent? Are you so biased that you willingly ignore plain, simple logic?

Dumb-ass, indeed. You're about the most biased POS that's ever scrolled a web-page. Just go away.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/23/2013, 1:05 PM
Hahaha just calm down you really shouldn't take this stuff too serious.Like I said back in fight club this is all fanboy speculation.Another thing you should take note of is talking logic when discussing comics is moot even if we're talking about the human level characters.
What about comic screams oh this could totally happen it's all illogical.

These people aren't the average human.Yes the average human would get shot but these guys have shown they can dodge gun fire.For a guy so concern about cannon you seem to ignore alot of it when it suits you're need.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 3/23/2013, 1:37 PM
unknowfacts, Ever hear of the "pot calling the kettle black"?

You my young friend are the poster boy of the double standard.

Talk about arguing to suit your purpose...

...You have the classic characteristics of a troll, baiting and then twisting others words to suit your needs. Your games just dilute and bring the whole group down.

Yeah, ppl who take the time to explain their reasoning after years of reading their passion would get annoyed at some child who plays their own limited knowledge as fact and then turns to downplaying the whole discussion. If you can't respect the group...

...Go play somewhere else. For what you think you bring to the table, you certainly wouldn't be missed.
FOOM
FOOM - 3/23/2013, 1:52 PM
@knownmakerofBS(AKA unknownfacts)

Insulting folks with a different opinion ain't cool. LoudLon is a very level headed guy and always treats everyone here with respect and courtesy.If he's wound up there's gotta be an explanation and that explanation is you. If you have any grace you should at least apologize.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/23/2013, 4:38 PM
Love this stuff SpideyQuad you're to funny you to FOOM.You guys really need to stop getting your feelngs hurt over nothing.I did nothing wrong plus I never twisted mine or other people's words.Sorry if reminding you what you said last time is twisting words where I come from people call it a reminder.

People get mad only when the truth comes out so if Loudlon is angry it only means my words rang true in some way and he needs to get over it.Kind of like the two of you.

SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 3/23/2013, 6:26 PM
Don't misunderstand me. My feelings are fine, you don't have that kind of power. Do us all a favor and go bother someone else.
kooldeath
kooldeath - 3/23/2013, 7:46 PM
Punisher,Namor and I went with Shang here. I don't get it the Punisher is no slouch in hand to hand and if you take away the guns for punisher and the venom away from bane I think punisher could take in in a fight. Namor could win this , it would be close but Namor. And gave the other one to Shang he's the master of kung fu..
FOOM
FOOM - 3/24/2013, 2:30 AM
unknownfacts@

People do get angry when they're insulted unjustifiably. That's a known fact.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/24/2013, 8:01 PM
^^
Haha I see what ya did there.

Anyways @Unknown
I'm not 100% sure what all the fuss is about. But I somewhat agree with what SpideyQuad said. Whether people disagree with each other or not, we all tend to be straight forward in our logic and reasoning. Everyone except you that is....myself, LoudLon, SpideyQuad, FOOM, Relentless, VIRLEMAN, etc. even though a lot of us disagree, none of us are resorting to troll-ish tactics, such as twisting words like for example when people (myself included) get upset about Batman winning fights he is obviously out matched in....you twist their frustration with fanboys, you twist the words and claim it as as hate for the character, hoping to get a response that fits your desire like "YEAH I DOOO HATE , HE'S SOO OVERRATED!" and you seem to want that to happen so you can prove a point.

I hate pointing fingers, cuz no one is perfect but it's truth. We all disagree but no one (except yourself) resorts to baiting and troll like characteristics. Youve been trying to get a rise out of people, and it seems you did what you intended. You got a rise out of LoudLon....what? Do you want a medal now?
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/25/2013, 6:44 AM
@Fenix

If calling people out on their nonsense is trolling then I guess I am trolling.My point was never to get a raise out of anyone it was about trying to understand why people except certain character feats while other characters they seem to ignor.It was about trying to understand why people change their response to two different character in the same situation.Look an old job quality of mine was looking at people's statements and looking for inconsistencies.

Now I'm not saying you guys are wrong for your chioces or anything like that.Take the Arrow vs Punisher fight people said that guns made the difference now fastforward to the Hawkeye vs Comedian fight that arguement was barely ever made.Tell me you don't find that odd.Same situation different characters.

I don't care about Marvel or DC I like both companies as I have often voted for the character I think could win.I vote by comic book logic not reality logic.My arguements have never been about the cannon but why people except certain parts of the cannon.

Lets use Bats and Namor as the example.People have a problem with Bats plan for taking down the Justice Laegue but no one seems to bat an eye when Namor took down the Hulk despite Hulk being 100 times stronger then him.Yet people get mad at Bats for having a plan to take down the league they call it BS,bad writing,they get mad when people bring it up.Namor gets nothing for it.It's count as a feat of strength for him.

I could go on forever about the problem with these fights but I'm not going to instead I'm going to enjoy life you guys should try it some time.
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