Champions Battle Poll (Week 7: Round 5)

Lobo
Colossus
Martian Manhunter

Lobo vs The Thing -- I've already been called biased once this week, so I'm not about to give anybody a reason to accuse me again.

Nah, just kidding, I totally voted the Thing. Cry and pout all you want but Lobo's never been consistently written and his strength level varies by ridiculous degrees from one writer to the next. Which is it: strong as Superman, or barely stronger than a human? No one can say for sure, because it depends on how popular he is at any given time and/or who's writing him. There is no iconic version of Lobo to go by, because he's never been consistent enough to secure any kind of iconicity. So I split the difference, halfway between Superman and human. In which case Thing is much stronger. Plus he's no slouch in the fisticuffs department. Thing hammers him into the ground.

Rhino vs Colossus -- Rhino may be a dullard but he cut his teeth fighting Spider-Man and Hulk and is a much more capable opponent than he's given credit for. I do think he'd lose this fight because Colossus has now matured and is Class 100, plus he's gained a lot of practical experience over the years. But I don't think it would be the easy defeat most others think it would.

Captain Atom vs Martian Manhunter -- love MM to death, easily my favorite DC character, but he's going up against a dude with the power to control matter. MM would put up only as much of a fight as Atom would allow him to.

In his history, I believe Rhino has only won two fights. One is against the guy who replaced him after he retired; the other is when he charged Thor from behind and ran him through, when he was using a fang from the Midgard serpent for a horn.

Other than that, he's a perennial jobber, and I can't think of any other instances where he's won a fight. He even loses to characters who have no earthly business being able to beat him. They even had him lose to Punisher. And though Punisher was using Stucker's Satan Claw, there's no way Frank [frick]ing Castle could beat Rhino.

The dude just doesn't get any love.

I cheer for Rhino in every one of his good moments though...like when he pierced straight through Thor. Or even when he fought Hulk and managed to gore him, even though Hulk is my favorite I actually wanted Rhino win that.

@Loudlon
That just shows how biased you are. We're supposed to be going by the most iconic version of these guys, and the most iconic Lobo was the one from the Superman: TAS, who was on Supe's strength level.

Iconic varies from generation to generation(example 40's Batman differs from 50's,50's different from 60's etc.) though a good media adaptation use a good mix of classic/retcon orgin and modern interpretation.

@electricsuperman -- you show me an iconic version of Lobo and I'll show you a bridge that goes to the moon.

Spoiler alert -- it doesn't exist.

Anytime Lobo gets a vote, it's because someone's going by the Superman-level Lobo. Of course that's the version they're going with, because if they went by any other version of him, he'd lose the majority of his matches here.

At the very least I try to be fair and aim for the average between the lowest level he's been written at and the highest. I don't even like the damned character but that's still a more fair treatment of him than any DC writer has ever given him, not to mention more consistent, because anytime Lobo appears in a match here, I ALWAYS go by the "averaged out" version.

You show me one single other voter here who doesn't vote Lobo with the Superman-level version in mind simply because that's the one which is more likely to win, and not only will I show you that bridge that goes to the moon, I'll GIVE you the [frick]in' thing.

Spoiler alert -- that doesn't exist, either.

I didn't vote on any fight. But I would have to vote lobo based off the animated show. That's how I know him.

@SPideyQuad

Interesting story. When I was a little kid DC comics were hard to come by where I lived.I was lucky enough to begin my DC reading with a friend's brother's O'Neill/Adams Green Lantern/Green Arrow issues and a few Batmans as well but by the time I actually found other DC comics on the newstands I could hardly find a title that was worth my while. I finally gave up trying with The Flash #228 and the whole cheesy writer Cary Bates becomes a main plot device against the 'Trickster' who looked like he'd just jumped out of a deck of cards. It was painful. For me at the time (and sometimes still today) the DC heroes had the most iconic look of all superheroes but their execution by DC was just fricken embarrassing. Sure there were a few exceptions like Jim Aparo's Brave and the Bold, Englehart & Roger's Detective comics and of course Kirby's work but during my formative comic reading years Marvel was the obvious choice unless you had the mind of a simpleton.

Next round will be up tommorrow at around 2:30 PM Pacific Time.

BTW theres no way MM shouldve lost to thor, sentry or superman....maybe superman....

Sentry is like...

Strength and speed on par with Superman.

Molecule manipulation on par with Molecule Man.

Energy projection on par and probably greater than Goku.

Psionics on par with Charles Xavier.

Hulk-like ability to get stronger as stress builds.



Also, when someone tries to use telepathy on him. The Void is unleashed...which would destroy the Marvel and DC universes combined.

@LoudLon Good!, I think we should all remember these are hypothetical and not serious, which makes them fun arguments to have. Nothing is really at stake.
I attempt to stay unbiased as well and will willingly point out when I'm not. Like with Wolvie and Sentry, i can't stand those characters.

@Fenix, That is why I don't like Sentry as a character. He was pretty much a retconned one-up. Which honestly seems ridiculous given the strength of Marvel's Galactic heroes. Jonn would match up to Supes and Thor well. However, as those who point out that Supes is just an alien. Well, so is Jonn.