THE HOBBIT: THE BATTLE OF FIVE ARMIES Extended Edition Receives R-Rating

THE HOBBIT: THE BATTLE OF FIVE ARMIES Extended Edition Receives R-Rating

Peter Jackson's latest endeavour into Tolkien's fantastic world of Middle-earth, The Hobbit: The Battle of The Five Armies, is receiving an extended edition this November, with additional footage, brand new special features, and... An R-Rating? Click the jump for details now!

By Gutspinner - Aug 25, 2015 05:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantasy
The Hobbit, the prequel trilogy to Lord of the Rings​​​​​, wrapped up last year with the release of The Hobbit: The Battle of The Five Armies​. Now, the film is slated to receive an extended edition.

The release features twenty minutes of additional footage, as well as over nine hours of brand new special features. These features include Commentary with Writer/Director/Producer Peter Jackson and co-producer/writer Phillipa Boyens, New Zealand: Home of Middle Earth Part 3, and more.

The interesting thing about the release of this version of the film, however, is its classification - it's received an ​R-Rating​. What about the additional footage and special features could possibly have bumped up the rating to that 18+? You can find out for yourself on November 17th.

As always, make sure to sound off on the topic in the comments below, and be sure to share and hit that thumbs up! 
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SuperCat
SuperCat - 8/25/2015, 6:02 PM
SuperCat
SuperCat - 8/25/2015, 6:05 PM
Desr0w
Desr0w - 8/25/2015, 6:05 PM
Desr0w
Desr0w - 8/25/2015, 6:06 PM


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SuperCat
SuperCat - 8/25/2015, 6:09 PM
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 8/25/2015, 6:11 PM
Full. Frontal. Freeman.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 8/25/2015, 6:14 PM
Wow, I actually haven't seen any of the Hobbit movies but I will be sure to buy them all when they release a full box set for all the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit films together.

I'll do the same for Star Wars when all of the upcoming films come to an end.
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 8/25/2015, 6:19 PM
TheOracularNerd - 8/25/2015, 6:14 PM

I will be sure to buy them all when they release a full box set for all the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit films together.

I'll do the same for Star Wars when all of the upcoming films come to an end.


When Star Wars ends? Have you met Disney? Movies will be downloaded directly to your brain before they stop making Star Wars movies.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/25/2015, 6:35 PM
@Issac Orr

I thought R-Rating was the America equivalent to a UK 15? Was Kick Ass R-Rated because that was a 15 in the UK.
marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 8/25/2015, 6:36 PM
The Hobbit was no where as good as LOTR but was still enjoyable. I'm looking forward to the extended edition. Here's hoping WB and New Line develop another series of movies set in the same universe. I'd like to see the universe continue and expand.
Retribution13
Retribution13 - 8/25/2015, 6:53 PM
I'm not a big Tolkien guy but I was told by friends that the Hobbit trilogy was garbage for being as long as they were so....

why do they think an extra 20 minutes is cool?
Gutspinner
Gutspinner - 8/25/2015, 7:11 PM
@marvel72

Sorry man, couldn't tell ya. I live in Australia, and while we do have a different rating system here in AU to the US, ours is also independent of the UK system. I do know that many US films that are.classified as R often come out as MA15+ in Australia, so it's very possible.
But yeah, no idea about the UK one sorry, and I often report all dates/times/classifications in American, as I believe a majority of the site's users are most likely American. Also, you'll want to tag @Gutspinner as opposed to @IsaacOrr. I've got my account to display my real name, but when it comes to notifications and stuff, my account is still recognised as Gutspinner :)

@marvelstudios

I would LOVE a Similarian film trilogy

@Areo

Believe it or not, there will be people who will probably marathon them

@RexDartEskimoSpy

Very true ahah
Full. Frontal. McKellen... @Gusto is into that stuff, I think.

@FrozenMarvelite

Me neither, I quite enjoyed all three films thoroughly
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 8/25/2015, 7:16 PM
Yup, because this light-hearted children's story REALLY needed a 3+ hour, R Rated cut.

[frick] this franchise, man.
Arlothia
Arlothia - 8/25/2015, 7:50 PM
Okay, I've known about this for a while thanks to a friend who keeps tabs on these things, but now that it's getting more attention I really want my voice to be heard.
THE HOBBIT SHOULD NOT BE RATED R!!!! This is stupid, this is wrong, this is an insult to Tolkien. It is based off a CHILDREN'S book! I work in a library and I see both 'The Hobbit' and 'The Lord of the Rings' trilogy in the teen and children's section as well as the adult fiction area. How are you supposed to explain to your young child that the book they love reading has been made into a movie they can't see?
And just as a matter of continuity, it makes no sense that in a series of 12 movies, the LAST one is R. There's going to be a theater marathon of these EEs and now they've just alienated many of their potential buyers.
As a matter of moral integrity I don't watch rated R movies and I know many other people who feel the same way I do. I have been living in Middle-earth since I was 8 years old and now I am being denied the final piece of this world. This is absolutely unacceptable.
If you don't care what the rating is, fine. But if you don't want to see that terrible boxed R on the back of the final piece of this decade long franchise, then please help support my friend's petition to make The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies a FAMILY FRIENDLY movie!

https://www.change.org/p/new-line-cinema-wingnut-films-metro-goldwyn-mayer-peter-jackson-make-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-extended-edition-rated-pg-13?just_created=true

Thank you!
Gutspinner
Gutspinner - 8/25/2015, 8:40 PM
@Arlothia

While I totally understand your POV, I don't think the petition will work. Not due to a lack of validity in your points, simply because it would be rated R due to the additional footage, whatever that may be. The additional footage isn't new footage that has been shot recently, it was shot with the original film, and just didn't make the theatrical cut. There'd be no point of releasing an extended edition without additional footage, because then it wouldn't be extended.

While I'm not undermining your efforts, or telling you not to keep going with the petition, or even telling anyone else not to sign it (even if I were, my opinion on the matter would be irrelevant, as I have no authority over any of you), I am simply stating that it is much more likely that the petition would be better suited as a "don't release it" campaign. Even if it were to go back through the classification process, it would still only be able to be changed to something that would be for older viewers. Something that is classified R, would never be reclassified as, say, PG.
Arlothia
Arlothia - 8/25/2015, 10:01 PM
@Gutspinner

Thank you for your very courteous and respectful comments. I've had people respond very negatively to this petition so I very much appreciate how tactfully you put this.

I am fully aware that there is chance that this would ever be PG. I simply am aiming to get it to the more family friendly rating of PG-13. So maybe my comment about the young children wasn't quite what I wanted to say. Maybe something more along the lines of "how do you explain to your child that this book they love was made into an adult movie" or something like that.

As for the rating coming from the additional footage, I'm sure that not all of the footage that is being added would garner an R rating. And probably those scenes that did contribute to it could be edited to show less blood or a bit less brutal: the swing that takes off the head is shown but the actual beheading isn't--that sort of thing. Which actually brings me to another point.

The guidelines for the MPAA change over time and apparently, from what I've heard in comments from theonering.net (where my friend first heard about the rating and brought my attention to it), the LOTR extended editions "should" have been R by today's standards. Apparently that scene in FORT when Lurtz licks his bloody blade was cut from the theatrical edition because it made it R, but was there in the EE...which was still rated PG-13. Also, apparently, in other countries, the LOTR EEs have an equivalent rating to our USA R-rating. The fact that the standards seem to be changing all the time is really confusing and annoying. I remember when the MPAA was considering making every movie to feature smoking R! There go your classic '40s movies with not a single drop of blood or obscenity! So I guess we should really be asking the MPAA to reconsider the rating or for PJ and Co. to contest it. I'll let my friend know so they can make whatever changes to the petition they want. I know it seems strange that I would watch footage that was PG-13 but not if the exact same stuff was R, but it's the implications that rating gives it that makes me uneasy and worry about how brutal and graphic it will be. If the amount/severity of the violence is the same that we've been seeing for he past decade from the other films then there is no reason to make it R. You might as well re-release the entire series as R!

I didn't mean to rant there but I'm just really passionate about this and hopefully there's still time to change it. Hopefully...

Thanks again for your comments!
Gutspinner
Gutspinner - 8/25/2015, 10:24 PM
@Arlothia

Not a problem, just glad my comments did come out the right way, and weren't taken as distasteful. Never understood why people always react to this stuff so aggressively right off bat (this stuff being someone expressing their opinions,etc).

Ah, I can see your points there, especially with how the editing could help (unless maybe its literally a twenty minute supercut of limbs being chopped off, played to "Eye of the tiger" on a loop? :P ).
I can't really comment much on the MPAA guidelines stuff, as I have lived in Australia my whole life, and the classification guidelines are a bit different. Do you guys have an MA15+ over there, or is that what your PG-13 is? I believe over here the EE's are rated M, which means "15 or with Parental Guidance (we go G = General Audience, PG = Parental Guidance recommended, M = 15 or Parental Guidance, MA = Mature Audiences, 15+ Only, R18+ = Restricted, 18+ only, X18+ = same as R, but with the inclusion of pornographic scenes).
Effusion
Effusion - 8/26/2015, 1:28 AM
Great trilogy's. I'm really hoping The Silmarillion will be made as well.
Kyos
Kyos - 8/26/2015, 2:27 AM
Yeah, sorry, [frick] the Hobbit trilogy! I'll maybe sit through an Extended Edition marathon someday, but that's it then.
Tempo
Tempo - 8/26/2015, 2:33 AM
Shit trilogy,a shame compared to the original classic LOTR,people have already forgot this stupid CGI extravaganza.
Kyos
Kyos - 8/26/2015, 3:52 AM
I wish I could forget this shit...

marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 8/26/2015, 6:07 AM
@Gutspinner

Likewise. But from what I've read, that particular book's rights are still with the Tolkien Estate and they aren't keen on selling them. Apparently, they aren't happy with Jackson's interpretation of the LOTR/Hobbit series.
Arlothia
Arlothia - 8/26/2015, 8:17 AM
@Gutspinner

Exactly! It's like people are looking to be offended by things just so they can throw a tantrum! *shakes head* At least there are people out there who understand that opinions are just opinions and not there to be mean!

Anyway, our rating system has the same G and PG rating guide it seems, but after that we have PG-13 (13+ or parental guidance) and then R (18+ or parental guidance) which is basically anything goes. Then there's an X rating but that's like SUPER hard to get and has to have like soooooo much blood and swearing and sex and nudity and such. Then there's "Unrated" which I really have no idea how that all works. Usually I see this with an extended version of a movie that was already R so did they just put footage together and not even ask the MPAA to rate it or something? Usually it's more graphic/obscene than the original...I don't know. So it looks like your M is about the same as our PG-13. Have there been any Australian ads about this EE? Does it give it an R18 or R+ rating or something like that?
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 8/26/2015, 12:47 PM
Calm down about the R rating horseshit. They're just using it as a marketing gimmick and you're all giving them exactly the attention they want. There's probably one bit of violence that pushes the film over the (utterly arbitrary) MPAA line - like the original cut of Avengers - and rather than re-edit and resubmit the film they're milking it for free publicity. Actually, I'm surprised they're not slapping a giant "unrated version" across the Blu-Ray like some studios do. And as has been said, the extended cuts of the LOTR movies could have easily gotten R ratings, too. There are plenty of other, better things to bitch about with the Hobbit movies, although I still enjoyed them.

Yes, I copied and pasted my own comment from the other thread.
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