How DC can be different from Marvel

How DC can be different from Marvel

A separate but unified universe

Editorial Opinion
By darthbatman93 - May 20, 2014 09:05 PM EST
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It's been a hot topic lately about whether or not to include the DC Comics television shows in the same universe as the films. I personally am a little torn on the matter. There is definitely a lot of pros and cons either way but lately I've been thinking and came up with a way to do both and do something unique and different than Marvel. Here we go:

DC Comics is about to have their first ever shared universe on the big screen with the tentatively titles Batman Vs. Superman and then soon after followed up by the Justice League, which we know will of course include Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Cyborg. Now assuming that DC will be going the New 52 route, then we will also see Flash, Aquaman, and possibly Green Lantern. Now on the tv side of things, Arrow really came into its own this season and knocked it out of the park. With season 3 set to air this fall along with the new Flash series, we will also have a new television universe as well. We also have Constantine coming this fall on NBC but I will come back to that one. For the films, I think they should use Wally West just to kind of differentiate the films from the TV show.

DC Comics is notorious for their multiverse or multiple different universes in the comic books and that got me thinking as to why couldn't that same thing happen on the big and small screen? Like I stated, we almost have a full roster for the Justice League on the film side of things, but for TV why can't we establish a new Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman too? We know that at one point the CW was working on a Wonder Woman series called Amazon that was an origin story for her. Then we have had Ferris Aircraft easter eggs sprinkled throughout Arrow and in the Flash trailer which at least hints at the existence of Hal Jordan. Then, we need to establish a Batman. Jensen Ackles on the CW's Supernatural has been vying for the opportunity to play the caped crusader for a while now and personally I think he would do very well in the role. Introduce Bruce Wayne on Arrow as a business connection of Oliver’s then don't bring Batman in until his own show. Then, we need Superman. Now you could try to bring Tom Welling back but that would probably confuse to many people, so I say recast the character to someone new. Lastly, if Aquaman and Cyborg will be in the films then I say establish Martian Manhunter for the small screen and we have a full-blown small screen Justice League or Justice Society. Whichever you prefer.

Then we have Guillermo del Toro's Justice League Dark film that is still very early on in development. Del Toro himself has said that he would like this film to be apart of the same universe as Man of Steel, so I'm thinking give the Constantine series a few seasons, introduce some of the characters that usually appear with him in JLA Dark and then spin that series off into its own movie. So here are the rosters for each team: JLA Movie would be and I'm basing this on rumor and speculation, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Jon Stewart, the Flash(Wally West), Aquaman, and Cyborg. For TV we would have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Flash, Martian Manhunter, and Hal Jordan. Then JLA Dark would consist of Deadman, the Spectre, Swamp Thing, Constantine, the Phantom Stranger, Zatanna, Sargon the Sorcerer, and Etrigan the Demon.

Now here is the plan. After the first Justice League film, maybe even after the second one, Darkseid or Krona travels across the universes and somehow brings them together. The three leagues (the JLA on film, JLA Dark, and JSA from TV) come together. Unsure of each other and tensions high, Darkseid or Krona kills or severely hurt one of the heroes thus sparking an all out battle between the three or better yet a Trinity War. This could be huge! It would really be different than Marvel, and could be a trilogy or two-movie story within itself really. Plus, this would satisfy both fans of keeping film and TV separate and making them apart of the film universe.
 
This is my first article so don’t tear it up to bad, but let me know what you think in the comments below.
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MrBatmor
MrBatmor - 5/20/2014, 9:15 PM
Dc will be better Than marvel!!!( maybe sarcasm)

@shadow suck it!:P
MrBatmor
MrBatmor - 5/20/2014, 9:15 PM
And about the editorial ...good read...
huexolotl
huexolotl - 5/20/2014, 11:19 PM
Whats going to happen is DC is going to churn out cookie cutter movies and just over saturate the cbm film market. Its going to be too much of a bad thing and all cbms will end up paying for it.
feedonatreefrog
feedonatreefrog - 5/21/2014, 12:39 AM
Don't you know? Everything DC already IS in a multiverse.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Multiverse_worlds#The_New_52)

But to your point, I do think they think they could show this on-screen. Perhaps in the Flash TV show, Gustin-Flash eventually accidentally starts universe-hopping, and before arriving in the the TV JSA universe (crossover with the proposed "Hourman" show), for a brief minute, he tumbles through several other universes including the 90's Flash TV show universe and the DCCU (where he sees the movie Flash on the news or something).
Vortigar
Vortigar - 5/21/2014, 12:52 AM
Remember, WB is a classic movie company, sequels with something like three years between them has always been the norm. And tv is a completely different beast in their eyes.

The TV series on DC characters will never have enough budget if WB isn't willing to license the characters out of their own grasp. So the more wild characters probably won't hit the small screen. In this day and age Wonder Woman asks for a massive cgi budget so without something like HBO or syfy (urgh, that name...) and a bucket of third party trustees in on it it's not going to fly. (Amazon was a bid to update the 70's series concept, luckily, they realized in time that the game has changed.)

Right now WB policy for tv is keeping everything safe under their own thumb so they have final say. The big investors are not biting because they also want a say in things. Marvel managed to bypass this whole thing by stringing together a lot of consecutive hits.

DC moving to a movie per year schedule is probably the best move. They should have put that into motion after Iron Man 2 made what it did despite all its shortcomings but alas, Green Lantern happened and they got scared and Batman was already tied up in a separate set of productions.

Its an odd thought considering the quality of the movies but I really wonder how much of a DCU there would be now if Nolan hadn't picked up Batman.

Also:
The multiverse is always touted as something really hard to understand and a barrier to new comic book readers. It isn't. Its been a part of cinematic history since forever and even spawned major blockbusters with the Back to the Future films. Is there anyone really confused with BttF2? They take 2 minutes to explain the mechanics at one point and its off to the races.

Yeah, there's Superman, but there's also another reality where history happened differently. And this guy is the Superman from that place.

Now, was that so hard?

Aside:
I was never interested in Arrow but Flash looks really promising.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/21/2014, 3:14 AM
del Torro announces about 10 projects a year like clockwork but he'll only do one if them probably.
I can't see him actually getting around to a JL, I think maybe JLD could be the TV's version of Justice League, kinda like how Netflix is doing a TV version of Justice League (The Defenders).

I really don't think Constantine is connected to The Flash or Arrow. In fact, they're not.
LordThanos
LordThanos - 5/21/2014, 3:55 AM
DC already is different to Marvel. The only thing DC need to copy Marvel on is confidence in their characters.
I love both franchises equally, but obviously I have biases to characters from both franchises like Batman, Martian Manhunter, Ultron & Thanos.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 5/21/2014, 4:53 AM
DC is already doing it different. They having a Justice League movie THEN spin off movies.
It's a very smart way to go.
Baka
Baka - 5/21/2014, 4:57 AM
Wasn't there like 3 of these same articles in the same month.
avo
avo - 5/21/2014, 5:45 AM
Spinning off Constantine can't work because the show as a property is owned by NBC Universal. The film is to be distributed by Warner Bros. Unless they meet a bipartisan agreement, where they both work on the project, it's simply not possible.
Simoman
Simoman - 5/22/2014, 8:15 AM
Firstly, interesting take to have a completely different TV Universe to Cinematic Universe.

Personally I think it's the wrong call.

As Vortigar said, the TV series in Arrow and Flash are at a network where DC can have a big say in it's direction, something they would have learned the hard way from what happened on Smallville.

The lack of control they will have over properties at other networks means the chances of Gotham and Constantine being part of the bigger universe are very small.

On the cinematic front although Man Of Steel polarised people more than they would've hoped they have things in their favour with everyone excited on pretty much any news for Batman v Superman despite it's 2016 release date whether that be a casting announcement, a suit reveal or the official title.

The other big ace in the hole for DC is having a Wonder Woman film in the future to tap the key female demographic that Marvel has yet to corner. The Twilight franchise (Total box office $3.34 billion) on it's own proves that if you can make something that appeals to women you will make big money. It's all there in Wonder Woman. Done right, this film can do for this generations young girls what Lynda Carter did for their mothers and inspire them to greatness.

With the Justice League film now clearly coming, I think the question as to whether they will be linked will be answered soon with the Flash. If they get a new Flash for the film then clearly the TV and Film universes are separate.
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