James Gunn On SUPERMAN's Place In Wider DCU And Whether He'll Make Guillermo del Toro's JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK

James Gunn On SUPERMAN's Place In Wider DCU And Whether He'll Make Guillermo del Toro's JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK

DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has revealed the extent of Superman's importance to the wider DCU, and explains why he isn't necessarily prioritising making Guillermo del Toro's "dream" Justice League Dark.

By JoshWilding - Jun 21, 2025 11:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Entertainment Weekly

When DC Studios was officially formed in January 2023, James Gunn and Peter Safran announced an ambitious "Chapter 1 - Gods and Monsters" slate. Many of those movies and TV shows have since hit stumbling blocks, but the new DCU is slowly starting to take shape. 

Creature Commandos was the first DCU project, and ties into this summer's Superman and Peacemaker season 2 thanks to Rick Flag Sr. Beyond that, 2026 will give us Lanterns, Supergirl, and Clayface

Talking to Entertainment Weekly, Gunn confirmed the expected: Superman will be a crucial part of the wider story he intends to tell in the DCU. Surprisingly, Peacemaker will be an important chapter, too, but Creature Commandos...not so much. 

"Oh, [Superman] is very important. I wouldn't say Creature Commandos is important, but Peacemaker and Superman are both pretty important in terms of getting to the bigger story. At the same time, I am really trying to be careful that anybody can dip in and see the story that is up next and not feel like they're missing information. The other stories can provide added texture to what you're watching. That might change down the line as we get deeper into what's happening in this universe."

"It could be like Infinity War and Endgame, where you kind of have to see Infinity War to know what's going on in Endgame. But right now, I'm trying to keep it so that you don't have to see Superman to see Supergirl, for example. Even though there's a lot of stuff in Superman that leads to Peacemaker, you certainly don't need to see it to see Peacemaker. It's just good if you have, but we also say 'Previously in the DCU' before every episode, so the TV stuff's pretty easy."

While rumours swirl about a World's Finest movie, the endgame surely has to be a new take on Justice League with Gunn at the helm. However, what of Justice League Dark

Filmmaker Guillermo del Toro was once attached to what's been billed as his dream project, and it remains one of those unmade superhero movies that had the potential to be great. The DCEU moved on from del Toro with an ultimately unproduced slate of Justice League Dark projects from producer J.J. Abrams, so will Gunn give del Toro another shot?

"I love Guillermo, and we own a movie theater together. By the way, Guillermo's never said that to me. I hear all these things about, 'Guillermo would love to do Justice League Dark.' Well, Guillermo's never said that to me. 'Just let Steven Spielberg do his Blackhawks movie that he wants to do!' Steven Spielberg, who I love above anyone else, has never said that to me. So these things get blown out of proportion."

"Years and years ago, I said I wanted to make a Thunderbolts movie. I was in a convention somewhere, and somebody asked me, 'What did I want to do that wasn't Guardians of the Galaxy?' I said Thunderbolts. And for years and years, it's like, 'James Gunn should be allowed to make his Thunderbolts movie.' I have a million things that I thought I wanted to do in certain moments."

That doesn't sound overly promising, but Gunn has strongly hinted that he has plans for John Constantine in the DCU. Recent years have seen Wonder Woman assemble alongside this supernatural team, so perhaps that's something DC Studios could explore? We'll have to wait and see.

Superman arrives in theaters on July 11, 2025.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 6/21/2025, 11:10 AM
Also Pablo LYLE Is Guillermo del Toro second cousin twice removed
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 6/21/2025, 11:12 AM
Imagine a Thunderbolts movie by Gunn.

Marvel has really lost a gem
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 6/21/2025, 12:04 PM
@vectorsigma - I mean, the Thunderbolts movie we got was pretty great . . .
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 6/21/2025, 12:24 PM
@Clintthahamster - it was a good character driven movie i agree.

But it lacks some memorable action sequences imo.

And its execution is not as effective. Rocket's backstory was very heartfelt in gotg3 for example. I just rewatched Peacemaker and a side character like Econonos had his highlight scene written and executed very well
Forthas
Forthas - 6/21/2025, 11:25 AM
What is going to ruin James Gunn in the long run is elevating characters like Peacemaker who no one gives a sh*t about and lowering the most popular characters like Superman down to the level of these obscure characters.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 6/21/2025, 11:53 AM
@Forthas - Feel like his downfall will be more about the lack of direction. His DCU seems to be solely story driven which means for the time being there isnt anything being lead up to.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/21/2025, 11:53 AM
@Forthas - YOU might have hated Peacemaker, but the reviews and ratings tell a different story. You're still butthurt over trash Snyder being taken out of existence
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 6/21/2025, 12:10 PM
@Forthas - I think if you can put established stars in the lead of the obscure characters, like Cena, people will have interest.

That's why you can get away with mostly unknowns for the big guns like Supes, Bats, and WW.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/21/2025, 12:14 PM
@BlackStar25 - I kind of agree with you but I do think Gunn has a broader plan that was centered around The Authority but for some reason it seems like it seems like it was derailed.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/21/2025, 12:18 PM
@bobevanz - I really have not seem anything to suggest it has high ratings. It is strange that if it did WB goes out of their way to NOT mention it.
Redking77
Redking77 - 6/21/2025, 12:21 PM
@Forthas - Let’s not forget that before Iron Man came out, he was considered a 2nd Tier character that many people overlooked. Everyone was about Spiderman & the X-Men at that time. While I agree with you (Peacemaker is far from my favorite), there may be a bigger plan that this character is laying the groundwork for.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/21/2025, 12:23 PM
@lazlodaytona - Yeah but he kicked things off with the small guns.
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/21/2025, 12:36 PM
@bobevanz - ratings yeah that’s future of show success not reviews no chance thunder bolts and transformers one and bumblebee have good reviews and rottne tomatoes score not one will get sequel reviews, rotten tomatoes, critics mean nothing when it comes to entertainment and movies people decide not reviews
IronSpider101
IronSpider101 - 6/21/2025, 2:55 PM
@BlackStar25 - If anything I see that as a plus. Every movie gets to stand on its own, rather than it feeling like they need to be part of something larger. That's how movies should be; standing alone and failing or succeeding on their own merits. Crossovers and shared continuity are the icing on the cake, but shouldn't ever be the cake itself.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/21/2025, 11:51 AM
" I am really trying to be careful that anybody can dip in and see the story that is up next and not feel like they're missing information."

Uh-huh. Meantime I'm trying to find the Metamorpho movie so I'll understand wtf that's all about before Superman and I can't find it anywhere.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/21/2025, 11:54 AM
@ObserverIO - apples and oranges for you
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/21/2025, 12:19 PM
@bobevanz - User Comment Image
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/21/2025, 11:54 AM
[frick] the media
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 6/21/2025, 12:58 PM
Would be nice if the supernatural side of DC was explored more.

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