THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER Star Says He's Unaware Of A Pandemic Storyline Being Cut From The Series

THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER Star Says He's Unaware Of A Pandemic Storyline Being Cut From The Series

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier star Danny Ramirez (Joaquin Torres) has addressed rumours that Marvel Studios cut a pandemic storyline from the series, while also commenting on his possible MCU future.

By JoshWilding - Apr 24, 2021 04:04 AM EST
Source: TV Line

When shooting first started on The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, rumours swirled that the series would revolve around a pandemic of some sort (which primarily appeared to be based on the show's production company being called "Pandemic Productions, LLC). When COVID-19 came along, it was then reported that reshoots would remove that plotline from the show. 

The Flag Smashers certainly seemed pretty directionless in the Disney+ series, so it would have made sense if Marvel Studios did choose to reshoot the majority of their scenes to do away with a plot point that might have hit a little too close to home given what's been happening in the world.

Well, it seems we can't blame the underwhelming villains on that, because in an interview with TV Line, The Falcon and The Winter Soldier star Danny Ramirez said he "hasn't heard" anything about a pandemic storyline being erased from the series during reshoots and post-production.

In the same interview, the actor - who plays Joaquin Torres - was asked about his MCU future.

"You will have to wait and see," Ramirez teased. "But there’s a lot exciting stuff down the road, maybe, from what I’ve been hearing. There’s a lot of things to be excited about, for sure."

So, it sounds like we could see him suit up as Falcon...one day.


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8. Will Eli Bradley Become Patriot?

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Sam Wilson makes peace with Isaiah Bradley in the season finale of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, honouring him with a place in the part of the Smithsonian exhibition dedicated to Steve Rogers. It's a beautiful moment, and the perfect way to end that character's story arc in the MCU. 

However, what about Eli Bradley? He's clearly a kid with an attitude, but there are no signs throughout this series that he's inherited his grandfather's superhuman abilities. 

Still, he seemingly takes a liking to Sam Wilson, and definitely looked inspired when he saw that statue of his grandfather. The question is, will that lead to Eli suiting up as Patriot, the leader of the Young Avengers? If that is the plan, Marvel Studios is clearly taking a slow-burn approach, and it might not be something that pays off until an eventual season two. We're rooting for it to happen, though.
 

7. Who Does This Captain America Work For, Anyway?

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Steve Rogers "disgraced" the Captain America mantle by becoming a war criminal and breaking the Sokovia Accords. The world has clearly come to understand that he was still a hero, though, and it does appear he's being mourned as a legend following the events of Avengers: Endgame

John Walker, meanwhile, was given the mantle by the GRC and the United States Government. Where does that leave Sam Wilson? Is he a free agent, or does he too report to a higher power? We have a feeling it's the latter, though it would have been interesting to see this finale devote some time to exploring how those in power have reacted to him wielding the shield.

Marvel Studios has yet to establish the place of the Avengers in the MCU following Thanos' attack on Earth, but we have no reason to believe Sam won't end up leading that team one day.
 

6. Is That It For The Flag Smashers?

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The remaining Super Soldiers are blown up in the closing moments of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, so that's the end of them (they won't be missed). However, what about the concept of the Flag Smashers?

Karli Morgenthau is no more, but there are clearly still those who support the movement. Ultimately, the GRC decide not to move forward with their plans to uproot those affected by The Blip; that doesn't mean there won't always be people who want to fight back against anyone who holds power. 

We're sure there are plenty of villains who might want to twist the Flag Smashers' intentions for their own means, but aren't banking on this group continuing in any way. Their logo might pop up now and again, but without the Super Soldiers, there's really not much they can bring to the MCU.
 

5. Is Zemo's Story Over?

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Zemo's arc in the series came to an abrupt end in the penultimate episode when the Dora Milaje decided to take him to The Raft. That was a little weird when it seemed like they were intent on making him pay for his crimes in Wakanda, but at least the finale rectifies that to some extent. 

Despite being behind bars, Zemo was still able to manipulate events to the point where those remaining Super Soldiers are killed. That proves the Baron is more powerful than we realised, and something tells us he won't be training behind bars for too much longer (he has no desire to target Bucky, but there are plenty of other superpowered individuals he'd surely like to dispose of). 

So, no, we don't think Zemo's story is over...we just don't know where it will go next (or when it's going to continue). We do wish Marvel Studios had laid the groundwork for him to assemble the Thunderbolts in this series, but as of right now, there's no indication that's what they have planned.
 

4. What Is Cap's (And U.S. Agent's) Place In The MCU?

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The GRC's Captain America was clearly meant to be someone they could send on missions to further their own means; he was a soldier who could wield an iconic weapon and represent his country in a way those in charge wanted. As for Sam Wilson, his place in the MCU is a little harder to figure out.

He willingly helps the authorities in the closing few minutes of the finale, but is he a free agent? Steve Rogers immediately started working for S.H.I.E.L.D. upon his return, and only stopped doing so when they fell. Now, it remains to be seen whether Sam will continue working with the military or be his own man, fighting the good fight and stepping in where he's needed. 

Like Walker (at least at first), he doesn't have any superpowers, so that could limit what he's able to do. Then again, he tackled an alien invasion as The Falcon, so there's no real reason to suspect he'll be handling "smaller" threats. Either way, both Sam and John are on vastly different paths now. 
 

3. What Endgame Does "Val" Have?

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Valentina Allegra de Fontaine appears to be on the side of the angels, but we still know very little about her motivations. Like Nick Fury, it seems like she has a lot of power and operates from the shadows. That's not to say we won't eventually learn that "Val" serves Leviathan or HYDRA, but right now, it looks like she legitimately wants to use U.S. Agent on behalf of the country. 

Val isn't the Power Broker and, as of right now, there's no reason to suspect they're working together (to put it bluntly, there's no reason to believe this mysterious character would need Sharon). 

We can't help but wonder whether Val is someone looking to put together her own Avengers - either the Dark Avengers or Thunderbolts - and if that's the case, it would explain those rumours about her appearing in Black Widow. If she recruits Yelena Belova there, she already has a Captain America and Black Widow...who's next? We'll obviously have to wait and see. 
 

2. What's The Deal With Sharon Carter?

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Sharon Carter being the Power Broker wasn't exactly a shock, and actually proved to be something of a predictable twist. It's easy enough to understand why the former S.H.I.E.L.D. agent might be angry with the world, but her heading to Madripoor to create a criminal empire...well, it's a little weird.

This is also a huge departure from the comic books, where Sharon is Steve Rogers' primary love interest and a hero through and through. So, why have things changed so drastically for her?

Sharon is quite clearly excited to use the information being part of the C.I.A. affords her to further her cause, but what that cause is...we don't know. It could be as simple as a desire to get rich, but what if she's a Skrull? Those shapeshifting aliens would definitely want to create a super soldier army and access government information, so here's hoping this pays off in Secret Invasion.
 

1. Where Is Steve Rogers?

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This is, without a doubt, the biggest unanswered question The Falcon and The Winter Soldier leaves us with. There have been jokes about Steve Rogers being on the moon, but it's clear now that the world hasn't been led to believe the former Captain America is dead...he's just vanished. 

It makes sense that the rest of the Avengers would want Steve to live out his final years in peace, but both Sam and Bucky have alluded to him being "gone" and neither of them reaches out to him here.

The fact Marvel Studios wouldn't address this is pretty damn weird, and it feels like they're maybe still weighing up their options when it comes to what to do with the character. Reliable sources have reported that Chris Evans will return as Captain America, so perhaps the plan is to de-age him. 
 

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UXASIS
UXASIS - 4/24/2021, 5:18 AM
I would rather see a second season than CA4.

Also seeing a Cap movie without the Russo's, let's hope it will be good at least.

Although I wasn't a fan of Mackie, I must say I like him as Cap, more than Falcon.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 5:21 AM
@UXASIS - May be being cynical here, but giving the white Cap 3 movies, then giving the black Cap a tv show, may cause some issues.
UXASIS
UXASIS - 4/24/2021, 6:02 AM
@Cap1 - True, which is strange, because he gets more screen time in the tv show.

But not all people watch tv, so I understand.
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 6:55 AM
@Cap1 - I really don't see the issue. Especially since said TV show is essentially a really long movie.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 7:42 AM
@Origame - on that logic let’s just never have movies again, since they’re essentially shortened tv shows
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 8:21 AM
@Cap1 - I'm talking specifically the marvel TV shows, which are directly compared to movies by the people making them.
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 8:28 AM
@Cap1 - also I might buy this if it wasn't for the fact we're in the golden age of television. It's argued that the best in terms of modern storytelling is in television. And don't even try and argue it isn't popular. We're post game of thrones right now, and the mandalorian has arguably surpassed the recent movies in terms of popularity.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 8:57 AM
@Origame - sorry, man, but if you think Game of Thrones is as universally known or anywhere at all the same pedestal as Avengers, you’re just kidding yourself. Mandalorian is big and spoken about a lot yes, but that doesn’t at all equate to it being the same level as a film. It’s just daft to think otherwise. I appreciate the quality and scale of TV right now has never been better, but a trilogy of 3 movies compared to a Disney+ tv show ??? It’s night and day, man, night and day
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 9:00 AM
@Origame - just cos Mando has a lot of memes and Baby Yoda sells a lot of toys, doesn’t make the show bigger than Civil War. If anything they’re just gimmicks, do you want the next Endgame to be a miniseries ?
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 9:19 AM
@Cap1 - never said it was on the same level as the avengers. That's an unfair comment because that's the biggest franchise. Other movies in the mcu can't compare. But game of thrones is pretty universally known and loved. To the point that blockbusters frequently make jokes about how popular it is, such as "even kids who shouldn't be watching it are watching it" or "I'm just automatically assuming you're watching it because of course you are".

And yes it is night and day. People hate the recent movies and love the show. One is universally loved and popular while the other is divisive at best.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 9:29 AM
@Origame - not unfair at all, the name Captain America is imbued and synonyms with Avengers. Giving this new Cap a tv show over a film after the previous had an entire trilogy would undermine the character’s worth and Anthony Mackie’s. I appreciate GoT’s acclaim, but it is not the same. People talk more about the new trilogy a hell of a lot more, from the divisiveness of TLJ to the atrocity that was ROTS to Finns poor treatment etc., than they do Mandalorian
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 9:30 AM
@Cap1 - synonymous*
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 9:42 AM
@Cap1 - but even the captain America movies aren't as big as the avengers. And I think we at least need numbers from Disney to see how the mandalorian is doing.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 10:02 AM
@Origame - that’s literally nothing to do with the point I just made. And numbers don’t compare to multi billionaire dollar movie franchises that are spoken about endlessly
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 10:05 AM
@Cap1 - dude these shows are talked about endlessly.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 10:10 AM
@Origame - lmao i know, but it isn’t comparable with the films. I’m having to repeat myself now n ur making no new points other than latching onto my last one so i’ll be leaving this here
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 10:42 AM
@Cap1 - well you're admitting to refusing to even think about actual numbers because it's a foregone conclusion to you.
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 10:57 AM
@Origame - please tell me where i’ve ‘admitted’ that? I said they don’t compare to billion dollar movie franchises, which they don’t. Here I am again, repeating myself. The numbers may be insane, but I alone watched episodes 3/4 times, I can’t go see a movie by the click of a button 3/4 times, there a levels. You’re deterring away from the point with arbitrary details abd thus has gotten insanely convoluted. A trilogy of Roger’s Cap films, adjacent to a streaming tv show for Sam’s Cap, would be an issue. Just the facts. Please just accept it
Cap1
Cap1 - 4/24/2021, 10:58 AM
@Cap1 - and this* not whatever abd thus means
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 2:33 PM
@Cap1 - it's not that hard. I said, we should look at the numbers, and you just kept reiterating that it's self evident.
dragon316
dragon316 - 4/24/2021, 5:49 AM
I’m glad it’s not in show csi is but depressing showing people with masks on in show maybe someday show will be normal with maskless less depressing to watch
Dannywest
Dannywest - 4/24/2021, 5:50 AM
They probably meant for the flagsmashers to release a virus that wiped a part of humanity like the snap. Anyways, hopefully Danny Ramírez gets to join the young Avengers as the new falcon
Origame
Origame - 4/24/2021, 6:56 AM
@Dannywest - it's also possible his character wasn't involved in that plot. These projects tend to be on a need to know basis to avoid leaks.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 4/24/2021, 6:09 AM


MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 4/24/2021, 1:32 PM
@Kumkani -
Hot as hell 👍
MrDandy
MrDandy - 4/24/2021, 7:22 AM
Flagsmashers were the worst part of the series. Something seemed off because they were really underdeveloped and kind of terrible as the lead villains/driving threat
MrDandy
MrDandy - 4/24/2021, 7:23 AM
Still really enjoyed the series overall but they kept it from going from good to great for me. I really do think the pandemic plotline rumors are true because they really felt gutted
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 4/24/2021, 9:09 AM
@MrDandy - Yeah I really enjoyed the series, but like you found the Flag Smashers to be the weakest part. I'm still rating the series very high on my list, but the Flag Smashers (and particularly Karli) certainly knock it down a little.
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