The Avengers: The Arrival Of Thor

The Avengers: The Arrival Of Thor

Thor's desire to return to Earth at the end of his solo outing was based on Jane Foster. But how will they explain his return without her inclusion in The Avengers?

Editorial Opinion
By CraptainAmerica - Jan 09, 2012 03:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

There has been a dynamic that has puzzled me regarding one character in The Avengers. We know that Tony Stark was recruited as a consultant by the end of Iron Man 2. Captain America is discovered and revived by the time the end of Captain America: The First Avenger comes to a close. Bruce Banner is in self-inflicted exile by the end of The Incredible Hulk and we know he will be tracked down and 'recruited' during the events of The Avengers. Black Widow and Hawkeye's inclusion is already set. But what about Thor?

When 'Thor' comes to it's finale we are left with the notion that the bifrost/rainbow bridge has been destroyed and that Thor's return to Earth is not longer possible. Heimdall says "she's searching for you" when Thor asks what Jane Foster is doing. Obviously insinuating that she is using her research to discover other ways of making contact. We know, from Loki, that there are other ways off Asgard and that could only mean that this is the way Thor will, possibly, return to Earth for The Avengers.

There are many ways that they will make this possible but the question for me is not just HOW but WHY?

- Will Loki attacked Earth forcing Thor to find some way of returning?

- Will his need to make peace with his brother, after lettin ghim down in 'Thor', give him the desire to help?

- Maybe he's already here to help, somehow, because of an impending Alien attack? Only for his brother to appear the instigator?

- If he loves Jane and wishes to return in order to rekindle his relationship, how will that be possible without Portman's inclusion?

- If he returns to Earth to join the Avengers fight, how will he be able to return without wanting to find Jane? It would leave his desire, at the end of 'Thor', for his "longing for his love lost" as a less poignent moment.

If Jane were to be included it would make far more sense as to why he has chosen to return to Earth in the first place. But the better way would be to have 'The Avengers' set a reasonable amount of time after the events of The Incredible Hulk. It would make greater ease with not clogging up the first instances of 'The Avengers' with needless backstory. It could be something they could allude toward. It would also make sense because the "team" would already be, near enough, formed just prior to Captain America's arrival. The foundation for having the core team facing of against Loki prior to Captain America's inclusion would also stick closer to the teams origins in the comics (minus Ant-man and Wasp of course).

Having that gap between the solo movies and 'The Avengers' would also give them time to explain Bruce Banner's change location, give Loki enough time to make his "deals" and the team formation. It also gives Marvel the chance to place, for example, Thor's second solo movie prior to 'The Avengers' where his return to Earth and rekindling of romance with Jane Foster could be explained better.

It may leave people in a state of confusion if not explained in 'The Avengers' but if alluded to it could buy them some more time to explain how they got to where they are come this May.

I had to share this drivel just to see if any of you guys (and girls) had had the same reservation or not.

Your comments are always welcome and appreciated.

Your Craptain Salutes You!



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Does anybody else think Loki will aid 'The Avengers' come the end of the movie? The picture of all of the Avengers in the grounds of a mansion house with Thor and Loki could be the 'gateway' The Avengers have constructed in order to bridge the gap between Migard and Asgard? Could it be the Avengers mansion making an appearance? A closing scene where the sgardians return to their homeworld? Is that strange device what has been built to aid this? Stark has a case with the Cosmic Cube (?) in it? My mind wanders...my brain farts...

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6of13
6of13 - 1/9/2012, 5:56 AM
I think Loki has the purple infinity gem which would explain how he travels between realms (Asgard and Midgard). If he does have this gem, then he could travel anywhere.
Maybe Thor could also be tracking Loki and follows him to Earth the same way i.e the purple infinity gem. IF he is trying to find Loki, then I think he would priortise that before trying to reunite with Jane.

If Loki joins the Avengers it would be because he realises he can't rule over Midgard (or any realm) if it has been destroyed. Therefore, Loki "aiding" the Avengers is not so much for helping them but more so in helping himself. I am supposing that the negative plays an important part in the movie because I think it could potentially be a threat to all 9 realms.
6of13
6of13 - 1/9/2012, 7:20 AM
I see events go a little like this:

- SHIELD and Nick Fury have already recruited Iron Man, Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye.
- Black Widow tracks down Bruce Banner and he joins SHIELD.
- Something alerts SHIELD to Loki or some danger.
- Iron Man, Captain America and Hawkeye are sent off to investigate and stop this.
- Thor is trying to find Loki and take him back to Asgard.
- The Avengers cross paths with Thor (in the forest in the trailer) who is fighting Loki. Captain America and Iron Man attack Thor and Loki.
- Hulk intervenes.
- At the end of the fight Loki is captured and taken back to SHIELD.
- Thor goes with to oversee what happens to Loki.
- Loki escapes with the Cosmic Cube.

CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 1/9/2012, 8:51 AM
Hmmmm...methinks ye know too much ;-)
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/9/2012, 10:31 AM
thor should just stick with sif,way hotter than foster.
superotherside
superotherside - 1/9/2012, 1:50 PM
Yeah, I have been wondering about that as well, I actually did an article a long time ago about it. Sadly I can't find it lol... :(
Gerrit
Gerrit - 1/9/2012, 2:58 PM
I'm sure Joss came up with satisfactory explanations for everything. I just hope that Loki dowsn't turn good in the end, he should be, along with his army, the threat to be defeated.
Orphix
Orphix - 1/10/2012, 7:56 AM
There are some interesting points about the timeline between the end of TIH and the beginning of The Avengers.

There are a lot of good reasons to have a gap of a couple of years (as has been suggested in some of the footage) not least, so that Thor can grow his hair a bit longer.

It's seems , according to the end of IM2, that at least Cap's location since his disappearance has been discovered even if he hasn't 'woken' yet. But that would effect the 'man out of time' aspect of his character if he has been knocking around for a couple of years before the film even starts.

I am beginning to wonder if the film takes place over a longer period of time. Maybe it does begin soon after the other films but the story takes place over a couple of years. Maybe some of the 'recruiting' scenes that are shown in the trailers happen in the third act rather than at the beginning of the film?

And your right about Foster. Kind of undermines Thor's character if she isn't in it. And would be a complete waste to have their reaquaintance to be shown off screen.
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 1/10/2012, 8:17 AM
I just assumed it would give them an excuse to fill in any plot points that just seen to appear without reason and also not waste screen time on actually getting the characters there. I'm guessing that the SPOILER supposed NASA attack screen when Loki arrives could be an opening but Fury is obviously, somehow, aware of the impending attack furring the 5 solo movies...tis a complex weave to unravel!
95
95 - 1/10/2012, 11:21 AM
Thing is: Marvel seems to have Loki in partnership role with Thor in THOR 2. Tom Hiddleston has hinted that we will see more of his character in the future but more as Thor's ally than in conflicts. And the Central Park, NYC THE AVENGERS set pics seems to infer that Loki and Thor will put an end to their conflict.
KAPZ
KAPZ - 1/10/2012, 3:47 PM
well based on the end of thor i allways asumed that shield would use the cube to create a type of byfrost... i also asume that to achieve that they do need foster... n prolly antman whom was refered to on thor (read it on an article i think) but i jus dont think that foster can manage it by herself while antman can do it with his eyes closed or perhaps reed richards but we all know he isnt showing up in a marvel/disney movie anytime soon the problem with that theory is that it demands the inclusion of dr selvik who is under the control of loki and well why would loki want to help shield bring thor...
DRock59
DRock59 - 1/10/2012, 8:52 PM
Good article! Kinda OT but, I don't think the spoilers going around about the redacted etc. are real.
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 1/11/2012, 10:12 AM
True @3D - I think spilling on Loki's involvement in Thor 2 could, if true, infer as to where the characters will be come the end of The Avengers

@KAPZ - I'm championing an Ant-Man movie as I loved the Pym character. Having the core of Thor 2 set prior to The Avengers would allow Marvel to introduce the character in Dr. Pym form and possibly continue the research Foster was seen doing at the end of Thor. It's all shooting in the dark I guess

@DRock - Well the 'redacted' aren't the villains. Redacted related to the fact they had to leave out whichever character it was being sold ;-)

I say it's The Kree
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