Where are THE AVENGERS during the Solo Movies?

Where are THE AVENGERS during the Solo Movies?

My thoughts, and speculation on where the Avengers are during the Phase 2 solo films! check it out and PLEASE DO COMMENT!

Editorial Opinion
By TheePeterParker - Oct 22, 2013 09:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: wheredtheavengersgo



So in being a big fan i get asked, and see the same thing A LOT, Where are the Avengers in Iron Man 3, and the other PHASE 2 films that will be coming out soon! And honestly...I have no clue! Now maybe they will fill in the blanks before Avengers : Age of Ultron comes out? but for now.

Iron Man 3 now really doesn't have any excuse, i mean Dr. Bruce Banner is at the end credits and everything, and it obviously looks like he's trying to not live life as the Hulk again, and live just a normal life! But why did S.H.I.E.L.D or Captain America come help out when his house got destroyed? You can just say, "It was Tony Stark's business.. he can handle it like a big boy" Well with all that chaos that didn't even involve Tony yet, still.. where were the Avengers?



OBVIOUSLY - Thor is in Asgard and can't just get a phone-call on what's going on, so his side of the story actually makes sense.

Now unless in Captain America : TWS they show the reason why Captain America or S.H.I.E.L.D didn't help out, then okay! But if when The Winter Soldier comes out, and they cover it up with something like, Both the attack from the Winter Soldier and The Mandarin happened at the same time, So both Hero's were busy type of thing? That's a whole lot of BS!

But if it is never mentioned, and The Avengers: Age of Ultron comes out, and it is still never mentioned.. Man! that's really realistic "Good jobs guys on not filling the blanks!" I mean, if you are such a "Fan" that you ignore it and say something like "WHO CARES WHERE THEY WERE!" you are honestly kind of stupid. a Director, Story-Teller isn't supposed to just ignore stuff like that!

I'm not hating, or mad, or anything! I just really want to know, And i don't want it to be some corny fill in like the season finale of LOST. Or just a quick pass-by where Nick Fury says something like "Tony can handle his own shit" Cause that wouldn't be able to be taken seriously!

NOW WHAT THEY CAN DO IS -

Obviously say you know, Thor is in Asgard?! maybe show a News report of London being attacked or something? Just to kind of feel him in there a little,

Now Captain America : TWS can cover up why Cap or anyone else from S.H.I.E.L.D couldn't show up, easily. I mean they can say both things happened at once? but i mean, They should do it so that if you went to see the movie people would be able to leave and tell they're friends,

"Oh, well the Avengers aren't in Iron Man 3 because of_____"

"The Avengers aren't in Captain America the Winter soldier because____"

Not like, just people heard it, and some people didn't, and you have to wait till the movie comes out, or see it again to find out why the Avengers weren't there, You know what I mean?

So if you have any good fill in's be sure to tell me about it, cause this Article is mostly Curiosity, and I really hope it is not ignored! CANT WAIT FOR THE REST OF PHASE 2!

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jaysin420
jaysin420 - 10/22/2013, 10:14 PM
I agree with you but I think we'll understand more after Captain America since it's about Shield.

Not sure how they could explain why nobody helped Tony or the president in IM3 though.
xcrementus
xcrementus - 10/22/2013, 11:47 PM
Tony was off the grid after his house blew up. Nobody knew where he was cus he was hiding in a garage. Hence nobody could contact him cus he didn't contact anybody else.

ALso Tony & Rhodey went onto the oil rig alone cus Pepper was held hostage. He didn't call anybody then either, since he had a billion suits as backup and didn't need army/SHIELD.

If you think about it too hard, it doesn't work. But the same goes for the comics. I don't need it constantly explained to me every second why everybody from Avengers isn't there cus I know they just CAN'T. so who cares.

Did I need all the Avengers involved in the Winter Soldier story? No, cus its a Cap story, so let him do his thing. I'm sorry if you're bothered by minute details but its unfortunately a superhero reality. Get past it.
mook
mook - 10/23/2013, 12:21 AM
@xcrementus Exactly.

Let's wait and see what might be explained in all the Phase 2 films, tie-in comics and TV show before we get too excited.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/23/2013, 3:33 AM
In the comics do we need an explanation as to why or how Wolverine is on 23 teams and involved in all of their shit that goes down? Nope.

Its quite easily explained, Cap has SHIELD shit going on. Tony didnt exactly ask anyone for help and dropped off the grid.

Banner is there, but again, Banner isn't busy saving the world in his Avengers off time.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/23/2013, 3:37 AM
I mean come on, there has only been one phase 2 movie so far.....

Did people expect a quick flash of what Cap is doing to explain why he isn't there? Not only would that be out of place, but it would probably spoil something that happens, or plot details for Cap 2
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 7:57 AM
@MexicanSuperman

Exactly. Yeah, it'd be nice to know why they didn't show up, but ultimately...it's Iron Man's movie!

I think it's funny how people complained bitterly about SHIELD's overwhelming presence in Iron Man 2, then complain bitterly about their absence in Iron Man 3.

Lastly, we already know part of the answer to the editorial's question, since it's been stated that Thor 2 is several months after Iron Man 3, and Cap 2 is several months after Thor 2.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 10/23/2013, 8:47 AM
It's clear you have no idea what you want.

I think it's better to ignore it. Let the heroes have their own movies without always talking about the others. What, after Age of Ultron, each Phase 3 movies will have to explain why Hawkeye, Black Widow, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, SHIELD, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were not there to help ?

We're going to need a whole movie per Phase just to explain away each character in each movie.
Aztlan
Aztlan - 10/23/2013, 9:14 AM
It will be surely explained in the tie-in comics, as the Iron Man 3 prelude which explained where was War Machine during Avengers, or the Thor: The Dark World prelude where we see what happened between Avengers and Thor:TDW.

There is a Captain America: The Winter Soldier prelude which will be released in a TPB for March, 2014... so you will have another of your answers.

Patience is a virtue.
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 10/23/2013, 9:40 AM
I concur @Aztlan...

with The timeline is yet to be reveald similar to Phase 1 where events overlapped also one shots..comic preludes and all

I dont like to assume but i feel AOS may have been before and maybe partialy during IM3..the events of CAP probably is the reason for the absents of Shield also
Aztlan
Aztlan - 10/23/2013, 10:14 AM
@ROBBEATZZZ

IM3 happened in December, 2012.
AoS begins in September, 2013.

Scarlett Johansonn said in an interview CA:TWS happens 2 years after Avengers, so in 2014.

For more info on the MCU timeline check what DIrishB and me (Captain France) do here: http://www.thecomicboard.com/forum/showthread.php?13339-Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Timeline
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 10/23/2013, 10:50 AM
Ok kool, your timeline is good and overlaps up until IM3..then there is no timeline overlapping events.

Just because a show is aired on a certain date doesnt mean that it fits in the timeline on that date.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 11:15 AM
"even if someone wanted to help him it was holiday-time better spent with their families"

So all the covert organizations and military completely shut down for the holidays? Clearly the terrorists knew this, as that's when they kidnapped the president in IM3.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 11:16 AM
So if CA:TWS take place 2 years after The Avengers then in AOU Tony should look older.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 11:25 AM
@MCUfan1
Is that something that was being debated?
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 10/23/2013, 11:30 AM
Interesting article, but be careful when you start using logic for these types of things. Irrational fanboys will come at you and destroy you for trying to be logical.

Of course there should be an explanation for why the Avengers didn't show up. The 'true' reason actually is that it's an Iron Man film, or a Captain America film, or a Thor film. Obviously it'd be overkill to have the Avengers team up in every movie, it'd just get old.

But the screenwriters and directors have to be smarter than that. It's their job to provide a fool-proof, solid, in-universe explanation for why the heroes can't keep teaming up again and again. Unfortunately I doubt we'll get that explanation though.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 12:40 PM
@rudah nah but is does has something to do with the timeline. Because that means that CA:TWS takes place a year and a half after Iron man 3. What has tony been doing for that long?
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 10/23/2013, 12:53 PM
all these ????'s will get answered and cleared up..i have faith in that..they did a nice job in Phase 1 explaining things like "where was War machine during the battle of New york?" or "where was jane foster?"
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 1:33 PM
@Robbeatzzz what about betty ross where was she?
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 10/23/2013, 1:42 PM
hell like i know..lol
ROBBEATZZZ
ROBBEATZZZ - 10/23/2013, 1:43 PM
all i know is what was revealed
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 2:10 PM
@MCUfan1

I assume living life like we saw at the very end of Iron Man 3, unless Avengers 2 shows us something else.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 2:15 PM
Nope i think she was in the Zac penn avengers script though.
TheePeterParker
TheePeterParker - 10/23/2013, 2:16 PM
What i was saying in this Article wasn't i want the Avengers in every solo-movie, that would be waaay overboard what i am saying is, at least explain why they aren't there! without putting a whole half of the film into it!, it is there solo movies. I dont want them in it, And a majority of the comments on this were exactly what i said some people would say "Well it Happened in the comics, who gives an F where the Avengers are"

Just because you don't care, cause you just love seeing the movies, doesn't mean there are tons of people wondering why the crew should only get together to take down a huge threat, some like Loki, but when something threatening like Mandarin comes along they are like..

"Mmm, he's not as much as a threat as Loki so we'll just let Iron Man handle this one"

Yes, he went off the grid, but what about before that? and also, EVEN if he did go off the grid, that doesn't leave them the excuse to not go after the Mandarin!? haha!
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 2:17 PM
@rudah know joss he'll probably give us the hall of armor again and a badass iron man suit. Also have the avengers sleep in the stark tower.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 2:32 PM
@MCUfan1

Come on, it's really easy to get my name right if you just copy and paste.

The Avengers CAN sleep in the tower, as shown at the end of the first movie with the quarters Tony was adding for each member. But even he wasn't staying there right after the events in Manhattan.

And he only needs one suit. I don't expect Whedon to contradict anything from the solo films.
BrowniesExplode
BrowniesExplode - 10/23/2013, 2:45 PM
@ruadh my fault im on my phone doing this.
ruadh
ruadh - 10/23/2013, 2:59 PM
Heh heh, no worries. I'm on one of those old fashioned computers.
TheOneAboveAll
TheOneAboveAll - 10/23/2013, 3:27 PM
Wait... if IronMan 3 takes place in Dec, 2012
and Age of Ultron takes place in the summer of 2013...
and Captain America Winter Soldier takes place two years after IM3...
is Age of Ultron simply a prequel to Winter Soldier?
TheOneAboveAll
TheOneAboveAll - 10/23/2013, 3:28 PM
Maybe Hawkeye dies in Age of ultron and that is why he is not in Winter Soldier if it takes place half a year after Age of Ultron
kenjim152
kenjim152 - 10/23/2013, 4:02 PM
I have read comic books for more than 25 years now, and If there is something Marvel taught us in the 80s is that there have to be consecuences for everything and those consecuences were reflected on all their titles. After Civil War there doesn't seem to be any consecuences in the Marvel Universe any more, and that is reflected in their movies now. If you guys think that it is OK to ignore those Little details that DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, it is because you are just new readers or you do not even read comics and just like the movies which is perfectly fine, but just not having S.H.I.E.L.D. get into a situation in which the president has been kidnapped is just stupid.
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 10/23/2013, 4:50 PM
@TheOneAboveAll

Uhhhh no, Age of Ultron is NOT a prequel to Cap:TWS, in fact it was said by Marvel that the events of TWS are what leads into Age of Ultron
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 10/23/2013, 4:51 PM
@Alec Dominguez

I doubt they will use the excuse of why Cap and SHIELD couldnt help Tony Cuz Cap was busy with what happens in TWS, seeing as how the events of IM3 wont coincide with that of Cap:TWS...

IM3 takes place 6 months after the Avengers and Cap:TWS is set 2 years later.
sikwon
sikwon - 10/24/2013, 6:52 PM
A team to handle a threat that no hero could handle alone. Iron Man and War Machine (kind of) handeled the Mandarine. At no point did Stark or Fury or Cap ask for the Avengers to assemble. And Rhodes CLEARLY tells Tony that the Mandarine ISNT super hero business.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 10/26/2013, 1:17 AM
They'd better have a damn good reason for Cap' not responding to the frickin' President Of The United States being kidnapped.

Maybe the Avengers just don't care. The post credits scene in IM3 confirms this.
inkslinger616
inkslinger616 - 11/1/2013, 1:36 PM
If you approach this question with a knowledge of how comic book story arcs work, it is easily understandable that they are not there because it is not their tale if you send other heroes into the solo films you may as well just have a shit ton of Avengers films. Thor has the warriors three and Loki and jane. Cap has Widow, Falcon and SHIELD. Stark has Rhodey and pepper. It is not necessary to even ask, "Where were the other members of his team?' when the truth is none of these stories were big enough to need the Avengers, the whole world wasn't at stake, but I haven't seen the new THor movie so if that is a big enough threat for the Avengers my answer would be that Thor does not yet trust his fellow Avengers or SHIELD in Asgard.
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