Hey Guys,
First time writting here. I need some help with some questions bothering me, since the announcment of the movie in 2013, all i hear is negative shit about DC and Zack Snyder.
I don't understand why! ?
Can anyone explain how is Man of Steel considered a bad movie and how is Batman V Superman make or brake for
DC/Warners at such an early stahe in the
DCEU ?
So as you know the information for the upcoming movies we mostly get from the various related media and social networks. The actual news basically come from the same source and are reposted everywhere else by bloggers and fans.
The same people that give opinions on the internet comic book sites, youtube channels, movie related sites, geek sites dictate and repeat the same cliches and the same meme inspred quotes.
"
Doomsday looks like a Turtle Ninja - Abomination from TIH (2008) "
I guess it didn't bother no one when
Abomination took the floor in 2008 and the fact that it didn't really look like
Abomination in the
Marvel comics was not an issue as well for the same people that now complain.
So with such petty complaints, i don't understand the following >
DC/Warners release Man of Steel their first movie in the
DC Cinematic Universe that hints at the existence of other characters outside of the Superman lore. The movie is met with mixed reviews and it makes
668.045 USD WW.
I see that as success, let me tell you why. The movie was the next Superman movie to come after such super hits like Superman Returns, Superman 4, Superman 3, and associated products to his name like tv versions like Smallville and Lois and Clark.
Yes i know that those shows are welcomed by comic book fans but people that are not invested in this hype see them as cheap ass crap.
That exlains why they went with Man of Steel not Superman Lives or Origins etc. Now the critics that bash it, are mostly either Superman fans that are now pushing 42 and above. I grew up with Superman only in the comics and related media. Most of his interpretations never looked 20 % as good as the one that we saw in MOS.
Now is he to be bashed because he snatched a neck or two, thats up to you. Personally i would have killed
Zod as well. [frick]er destroyed my city and threatened to kill you guys along with my mom.
So lets get to my point
Batman V Superman DOJ will make or brake DC/Warners - i call total utter bullshit on that one.
Want to know why ? Because the movie even if mediocre will surpass 1 Billion Worldwide - its an event movie. First and last time in the history of motion pictures that Batman meets Superman on the big screen.
People will go to see it and it will gross around 1.5 Billion in its entire run if average, if good it might knock another 300-400 Million. It will not beat a New Hope 2 and Avatar but it will make a lot more than other CBMs.
Now why this movie is definitelly not make or brake, well
Everyone loves Marvel right now and have nothing negative to say about them. But lets see some facts.
First four MCU movie have a total WW gross of 1.9 Billion approx.
We have one movie from those that is favourited amongst all CBM fans (Iron Man 2008).
Movie was funny and it had a lot going for it untill the third act (farely not the best villain ever).
So my big question is how is comparing DC's first two movies that will likely gross between 1.6 and 2.2 Billion WW (USD) as unsuccessful with Marvel first four movies grossing 1.9 Billion WW (USD).
What is the measure of a good movie? If we are comparing money, which in my opinion should not be a measure for movie success in any way and if it is how do we adjust it to be fairly compared.
I think with DC/Warners first four movies we might be looking at something around the 4 Billion and a half mark probably. That is if we say BVS does fairly around the 1.5, Suicuide Squad does around 800 Million and JLA does 1.7 Billion (pure speculation on my end but based on popularity of the properties and the actors and directors involved).
Again no measure for success if the movies are wack or resemble Batman and Robin or Catwoman, but i don't think anyone is afraid to go all out on them DC movies and make them look right over at Warners right now.
Doomsday was revealed but make no mistake, nerds knew he is in it and non nerds don't [frick]ing care like 1 %. Also don't think that just because you think you know the entire movie from two 2 minute trailers, you have no idea.
I suspect Warners are pretty happy with the
Nolan approach to "secret keeping", fake movie names, alternative endings being shot to avoid spoilers and are sticking to the formula they have already established.
Now don't think that if you are a Marvel fan and DC makes 2 times more money than the MCU first four that takes away from Marvel movies, not at all. Everyone should enjoy their favourite ones, no matter what. Please however stop bashing DC for no apparent reason, yes Marvel are the hype of Hollywood right now, but that might not be the case in 2 or 3 years. Everyone is like what if BVS sucks, well what if Civil War sucks? And what if
Dr Strange sucks ?
I kind of bet more on
Dr Strange because he seems to be filled with proper talant and maybe will break the villain issue over at Disney. Civil War on the other hand looks like a good ending to a good trilogy for Captain America , but it also feels like a attempt to make a sort of follow up to Age of Ultron. We all know that the big bucks for Marvel come from team movies and that their solo movies are still not where they would like them to be.
In that respective IF YOU were an executive @ Marvel would you miss a chance to make a 1.5 or 1.3 Billion with a team up movie for making Ant-Man money. I can assure you Civil War is aiming for that Avengers box office money, not the Captain America TFA money.
All in all, I don’t understand why people that are fans of one thing think that the other will fail. I don’t eat, breathe and pray Marvel but that doesn’t stop me from knowing what they will perform box office wise. Ant-man was a clear loser for me but some people love it. Blogger praise it like a super inventive origin story, still it make 3 times less than Avengers, so clearly only some of Marvel fans went to see it and some didn’t. So no one knows who will make what and who will fail.
I bet on Batman V Superman to be a super success, I can’t guarantee numbers but expect something along the lines of Avengers plus money, don’t let the name Zack Snyder fool you that this is some mini movie.
2 months and 15 days approx. until we see the first ever shared DC movie.
Congrats!