COMICS: How Does The Post-AVENGERS: NO SURRENDER Roster Stack Up Against Past Teams?

@Kevwebsz - I don't know, but it's good to see Beast looking like Beast and not some blue lion or like a blue wolfman like in the recent films.

@Chewtoy - Exactly. Avengers is like a football team not everyone should be in it. The same goes with the Justice League. I always felt those to two teams were for the best of the best of heros.

@SmashZapper85 - The movies are actually pretty decent at capturing the classic Avengers vibe. The mainstay Avengers were the big three (Cap, Thor, Iron Man) followed by the core 5 (Vision, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Hank Pym, Wasp) and then significant stretches with some other regulars (Black Widow, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Man, Tigra, She-Hulk...) and then a handful of others who had one long, significant run on the team or were central to a major story arc (like Mantis) and probably a few I’m just forgetting.

So most teams were predominantly made with a mix of those listed above and maybe a rookie or bigger hero hanging around for a story arc or two before deciding that it didn’t quite fit. The Big Three tended to drift in and out of the book regularly, not showing up for stretches depending on what they were up to in their own titles. Most of the personal drama was kept to those without their own titles, hence that second group of 5 were the real core of the storytelling. They lived together in Tony’s family mansion (with elaborate technological improvements to the many sub-levels), kept by his (human) butler Jarvis and often argued with their government liaison over policy while butting heads with and/or romancing each other but saving the actual fighting for villains.

Back before Marvel started chasing movie deals around 2000 their universe was more segmented and less homogenous... it was exciting and interesting how the various segments (Avengers, X-men, Spidey, Street-level heroes, FF, mystical, etc...) would occasionally brush up against each other, allowing for it to feel like a bigger deal in the story.

The Beast on the Avengers or Carol Danvers with the X-men were interesting because they were coming from one team clearly to the other... how would they fit in with that already-established vibe? These days, the groupings seem more like completely new teams that meet in the middle.

@Chewtoy - I liked Hickman's approach. The main Avengers comic provided a chart at the beginning of every comic to show which characters of the great "Avengers Machine" would be featured in the issue.

Las member of Thor's team is POD. Hawkeye's team included Starbrand, Nightmask and Validator. The two big ones were Ex Nihilo and Abyss.

Just for fun, this would be my personal Avengers line up:
1. Black Panther (Leader)
2. Captain Marvel (Field Leader)
3. Hercules
4. Vision
5. Hawkeye
6. Ant-Man (Pym)
7. Gamora (Wildcard new member)