My view on “Anglus presents: My case for Brandon Routh….”

My view on “Anglus presents: My case for Brandon Routh….”

Editorial Opinion
By blueorangeny - Sep 03, 2010 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

Okay I bleed DC Comics all the way through and Superman is my all time favorite, I remember catching 1 & 2 back in the day in Queens, NY when I was little. If only there truly existed a Superman in real life. Anyway

Okay I first want to say Angelus I appreciate the effort you put in your article. Yes there were some grammar errors and you did repeat your points respectively a few times. The debate on who is today’s Superman is truly getting out of hand and tiring. It’s like beating down a dead horse. When Routh vs Welling is surfaced it seems like we’re about to wage war at each other. Here’s my 2 cents into the topic.

As I said before I am a Tom Welling fan and I do watch Smallville. Smallville is my weekly comic book phin fix. I didn’t like Routh portrayal and I hated Returns. Both these actors have flaws and these flaws are connected to what they had to work with on the iconic Superman.

Brandon Routh
Routh imo failed as Clark Kent, since the film was trying to be reminiscent of the Donner films. As Supes he had his moments (some) and he does have some moments that he looked the part with the suit. Yea he had an awful script, yea he had an awful director, and yea the rest of the cast was not right for this movie. It’s not Routh’s fault but it is what it is. Angelus you’re incorrect no one has “Forgotten and Forgiven returns” in your own words. We’re reminded every time FX channel shows the movie. In your mind you’ve forgotten and forgiven because you like Returns and you love Routh so your feeling for it is a little preconceived notion. At the end Routh is linked to a subpar movie. It’s a big shadow and the only way he’ll get a chance to at least read for the part now is if Nolan goes to bat for him against the suits. The suits at WB/DC do not want anything of Returns reminiscent with this film because in their eyes it didn’t succeed.

Tom Welling
Welling has never actually played Superman, he’s only played Clark Kent and it’s a different version. It isn’t the geeky and nerdy way from the Donner films. It’s a change and perhaps that is one reason why people don’t like the show. As far as his looks, I believe he has potential. NOWWWWW to cement that opinion I want to see him in the suit, yes I believe you called it “hand me down Routh suit” (correct me if I’m wrong). Everyone has bitched that Smallville show cast their heroes in cheap outfits. So now that the producers go out and beyond to get the actual suit it’s a problem, lol. There goes favoritism; instead the haters (Routh fanatics) should not knock but rather then say ok let’s see what Tom has. This settle questions, does Tom Welling have the look? Can he wear the actual suit and look the part? When he does wear the Returns suit we can then have something to compare. Everyone will be watching that night because curiosity killed the cat as they say. I’ll even go far to say that Nolan and the suits at WB/DC would as well. Like Routh, Welling had awful scripts to work with but also a very low budget. The cheesy affects can be another reason why people don’t like the show, because at the end it looks cheap, distasteful, and not appealing. The negative connection that Welling has is not that he was part of Smallville but that people hate how the writers have screwed up a lot of things, at the end it wasn’t Tom’s fault. The shadow that is cast over Welling is the haters of the show and not the show it self. I agree with the show’s haters, there’s a lot of things that piss me off but at the same time the show has had it’s positive points. The suits at WB/DC see the show as a success, not many make 10 years especially sci-fi/comic genre type (call it what you want). Heroes didn’t make it pass 4, lol. In any professional sport a win is a win no matter how the game was played. Imo the suit probably see it as “IF” Welling is chosen by Nolan then Smallville haters will only accepted. Now what I mean by that is that the haters will just accept the decision and have faith in Nolan (like how we should be) decision and vision for the film. This also shouldn’t have any type of continuity tie-in with Smallville.

So at the end who the f knows what is going to happen? We do know that "we" in this site have our choices, preferences and opinions on the matter. I do say and hear me out. Both Tom and Brandon do deserve a shot on reading for the part, as Clark Kent and as Supes. At the end it's in Nolan’s hands and I believe he will give both a shot. I have 110% faith in him, his ideas and direction on the film. Who ever he chooses to play the Man of Steel I'll be behind it. Lastly, if either or get the job, it’s a clean slate for both actors. I do also believe they both will need to get a little more ripped, slim but ripped before filming if it gets that far. To the haters of Tom Welling who claim that they will boycott. That’s total bull shit, no one will boycott because the saying goes “Curiosity killed the cat”.

Now I'll like to hear your opinions especially the Routh fanatics.

Mr. Reeves (R.I.P)


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jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 11:32 AM
Tom Welling sucks. Smallville sucks. It's a damn teen soap drama. Shitty scripts, wooden acting. Christopher Nolan has a habit of casting really great lead actors (Pearce, Pacino, Bale, Jackman, DiCaprio), and anyone that thinks he would cast Welling as his Superman is out of their mind.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 11:33 AM
Seriously, if Tom Welling is Superman I will eat my hat.

This is speaking as someone who thought that Superman Returns (and both Donner films) are about half-great and half-retarded. Routh is about a hundred times better than Welling, though he's still no Christopher Reeves, but I expect Nolan to find somebody even better than Routh. He's demonstrated with the Batman franchise that he has a knack for casting iconic characters. Really, I don't even know how this became a debate, because there's about 0% chance he'll choose either of them.
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 9/3/2010, 11:46 AM
Brandon Routh sucks. Superman Returns sucks. It's a damn adult soap drama. Shitty script, wooden acting. Christopher Nolan has a habit of casting really good lead actors (Pearce, Pacino, Bale, Jackman, DiCaprio), and anyone that thinks he would cast Routh as his Superman is out of their mind.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/3/2010, 11:49 AM
Nice article @ BLUE, but the fact is if WELLING ever got to be big blue it would doom the whole franchise.

Not only his cardboard wooden acting but whats happened in SMALLVILLE is too [frick]ed up now for him to ever don the cape...

Not only that but WELLING never liked the cape, he has said that many time over the many years, only reason he might be interested in Noilan's movie is SMALLVILLE is coming to an end and all he sees in his movie career is Cheaper By The Dozen 3D!

Seriously theres not enough Smallville fans to make a successful SMALLVILLE movie,,, let him be SUPERMAN on the small screen!

Look he's had 10 YEARS to make a good CLARK KENT and failed.

NOLAN should get ROUTHY or CAVILL or a total unknown! ; D


I bleed DC comics too, thats why a big part of Smallville sux, and I'm not happy about saying that either!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/3/2010, 11:52 AM
Jahozafat @ IF RETURNS was a damn adult soap drama, then wtf is SMALLVILLE?

And you think Welling is a good actor?!?

Lmfao! : D


Btw @ NOLAN has said he likes SUPERMAN RETURNS, can't say I've heard him say anything about SMALLVILLE?

Well good anyways?!?
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 11:54 AM
@Jahozafat
lol
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 9/3/2010, 11:56 AM
@Leee777, my point! That means you should LOVE Smallville too!! Why the hate? Come on board!
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 9/3/2010, 11:56 AM
@jbak368, I try ;)
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 12:00 PM
I know everyone says he's too old (but I disagree because I don't want an origin story, and because it worked with Robert Downey Jr., and because I think most young actors just wouldn't have the level of presence necessary to really seem like Superman), but I still say Jon Hamm is the closest thing I've ever seen to Alex Ross' Superman. Everytime I watch Mad Men and I see him wearing a fedora I think, "Hey there's Clark Kent!"

This also happens when I watch To Kill a Mockingbird.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 12:03 PM
And of course, one of the great things about having Nolan on board is that we can all rest easy knowing that, even if we don't know what the [frick] he was thinking when they announce the cast, it'll still turn out that he was right when we finally get a glimpse of it. Man I can't wait for that first trailer.
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 9/3/2010, 12:06 PM
"it'll still turn out that he was right when we finally get a glimpse of it..."

You are so right.
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 9/3/2010, 12:42 PM
Tahmoh Penikett,Teddy Sears or Armie Hammer.

Routh would be cool,but it WONT HAPPEN.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 9/3/2010, 12:43 PM
^ thank you SoonerDrake! can we also add - "This is how the Spider-Man movies should've been... but im not going to come up with anything original im just going to nitpick Raimi's ideas because if Sony asked me to write a move for them i would crumble under the pressure of having to actually come up with my own story with an arch, i just like villains! yay" - ? if we could that would be great! :)

This is what it boils down too - If they cast Routh that is accepting SR as continuity in this film. If the cast Welling that is accepting Smallville as continuity. neither of which are a good idea for several valid reasons.

blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 9/3/2010, 12:51 PM
@ OdinsBeard - I hear what you saying but just one character imo wouldn't been seen as a complete continuity. Unless they start bringing Erica as Lois, Michael as Lex yada yada

@ Lee777 - thanks, It really was meant to be taken to be an article. I was commenting on Anglus article.

But like I always been saying, it be interesting to see the outcome on this.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 12:54 PM
I think that OdinsBeard is right. Keeping Welling (or Routh) but re-casting everyone else would make people think that it was the same continuity but with the minor parts re-cast, because re-casting is already pretty common place in these franchises anyway.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 9/3/2010, 12:55 PM
Blueorange@ you know what? i think any one would be hard pressed to find a better Lois than Durance. i hate smallville but it sort of breaks my heart that Durance is so good because she should've gotten the shake at playing Lois on film. but that would never be a possibility without her notoriety from the show. so it's sort of a catch 22 :(
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 9/3/2010, 12:57 PM
jabk@ you said: "And of course, one of the great things about having Nolan on board is that we can all rest easy knowing that, even if we don't know what the [frick] he was thinking when they announce the cast, it'll still turn out that he was right when we finally get a glimpse of it"

Absolutely! i think we need to keep that in mind for everyone (except FOX lol)
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 1:02 PM
I think that OdinsBeard is right. Keeping Welling (or Routh) but re-casting everyone else would make people think that it was the same continuity but with the minor parts re-cast, because re-casting is already pretty common place in these franchises anyway.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 1:09 PM
@SoonerDrake I think that Nolan's level of realism is exactly what a Superman movie needs to really connect with people.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 9/3/2010, 1:14 PM
Sooner@ what jbak said^ it should be fantasy presented realistically. and don't forget - as of right now Chris is not directing this film. maybe he knows it's out of his "jurisdiction" (as you put it) and that's why he's taking the back seat driver position. because a superman movie that Nolan wants to watch, is a superman movie i want to watch! and i think that's all Nolan is there for...
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/3/2010, 1:17 PM
@ soonerdrake and odin

no kidding. this site has become a broken record lately.

Welling vs. Routh articles. like either of them will be the new Superman, lol, not a chance.

Batman 3 speculation is getting ridiculous. everyone that posts these articles say the same thing, but they say it like its never been heard before. "I think they should do the Riddler, but make him like a serial killer." wow, thanks for that new insight.

all the spidey articles about how crappy the reboot is going to be. and it blows my mind that people are still trying to figure out what happened with Spidey 3...

And First Class articles complaining about the complainers.

meh...
Stumblin
Stumblin - 9/3/2010, 1:27 PM
CorndogBurgler, I was going to say the same thing, what's with the constant repeat of Routh vs Welling? I'm positive that neither one of them are probably even going to be considered for the Superman roll. Move on!

Batman 3 and X-Men: First Class, I'm way over that debate as well as the Spider-Man reboot.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 1:31 PM
Returns was absolutely not an attempt at a realistic Superman. Superman '78 is a more realistic movie than Returns.
blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 9/3/2010, 1:51 PM
wait a second, this thing about Nolan and his realism. How real can TDK when Bats fell from a skyscraper with this chic, landed on a car and both came out walking normal.
YourMomNaked
YourMomNaked - 9/3/2010, 1:52 PM
Welling has stated @SDCC that he wants to play Superman on the big screen and I'm all for it! Surprisingly the MAJORITY of CBM does, too! I thought this site was hostel towards Welling for Superman, but it's just the vocal MINORITY that has issue with him in the role.

Routh has far more baggage from 1 film than ANY iffy episode from Smallville from the past 9 seasons! Lest we forget: stalker, rapist, deadbeat baggage.

jbak368
jbak368 - 9/3/2010, 2:20 PM
If you like Welling, you must've been young when you started watching Smallville. I promise you, if you go back and watch it ten years from now, you'll be like, "man this show blows dick," but you'll still enjoy it for the nostalgia factor.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/3/2010, 2:44 PM
YourMomNaked @ Why do you watch your mom naked?!? : p

blueorangeny @ Yeah your right it will be interesting to see the outcome on this, gr8 stuff.

Jahozafat @ Hey I don't h8 Welling lol, though I really do h8 Alison Mack! : D

To be trueful, I really like Welling as farm boy Clark, its only when he became MATRIX Superboy and his superhero acting is when I had a problem with the guy lol.

Still I bet neither NOLAN would pick either, probably not CAVILL too... but fans of all can hope for the best, just hope he don't pick EDDIE MURPHY heh heh! ; D

Still fingers crossed 4 everyone!

Sooner @ Dude, if you don't like it, don't go in... theres plenty of other articles here dude to read and comment on, no ones twisting your arm. If ppl want to do articles and have passion for what they believe in, all the power to them! :)
blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 9/3/2010, 3:02 PM
damn can't we all get along, I was just giving my 2 cents on Anglus long ass man crush article. lol
rpintor1
rpintor1 - 9/3/2010, 4:16 PM
@LEEE777 Do you understand the story script is written by the writers and not Tom Welling? I don't understand the logic that goes around with the Routh Cock Suckers.
It's like this say you're a cop and you get a call of some disturbance and you find out later when you arrive it was your best friend that is causing the disturbance/being uncooperative with the police/law enforcers and resist arrest and you arrest and take him and take him to jail. All your friends bashes you for arresting your friend but you were just doing your job. This goes the same with actors both small screen and big screen actors.
JustinMSalvato
JustinMSalvato - 9/3/2010, 4:39 PM
Ok, so Chloe is a crappy character the last few seasons. I'd still marry Allison Mack! Leee777, you can have Bosworth, Mack is Mine!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/3/2010, 5:27 PM
Jahozafat @ DEAL lol! ; D

BLUE @ Yeah lets all be friends! :)

rpintor1 @ Lets DISCO! ; P

rpintor1
rpintor1 - 9/3/2010, 5:36 PM
Let's all get along. We all love & support Superman
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/3/2010, 5:39 PM
rpintor1 @ Yeah, hear hear and [frick] the SPIDEY REBOOT! ; p
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 9/3/2010, 9:18 PM
When picking someone to play the Man of Steel so many people focus on the face which I suppose makes sense. But frankly what I hope to see someday is a Superman that looks like a superman. I loved the original Superman Movies and Returns left me rather cold. But in both cases along with Welling on Smallville none of the actors looked like Superman to me.

Superman is a force of nature. His strength is very hard to picture when you really think about it. Just putting on the iconic (and so hopelessly out of date) suit does not do it. Oddly Christopher Reeve looked more like Superman when he was dressed as Clark.

Before anybody jumps in and suggests I want some no-talent Wrestler to play the Man of Steel let me just say. No. Acting talent has nothing to do with physical size. There are certainly more than a couple good sized guys who can also act a bit.
blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 9/3/2010, 10:19 PM
@ Leee777 - ah [frick] the Spidey reboot, that's a mistake, it's a future disaster bound to fulfilled. But I don't really care since I'm not crazy for Marvel. I'll watch it and follow it but it doesn't faze me if it's bad or good.
YourMomNaked
YourMomNaked - 9/4/2010, 8:57 AM
@LEEE777...YOUR momma ;)

All kidding aside, I can't fathom why YOU wouldn't be on board with Welling for Superman. You have to admit, he's grown as an actor and the logical progression for his Clark is Superman. It doesn't make ANY sense to recast for the reboot this soon after his becoming Superman. Seriously, does that make ANY sense? Put the notion of Routhboot aside and think about it without emotion.

Smallville's RETCON is similar to DC's RECONNING of Superman over the years; it's not at all [frick]ed up. WB/Nolan have turned the page on Superman Returns, hence the reboot. It's fact.

TV can succeed on the big screen, too. Off the top of my head, I can think of several: X-Files (two movies and a third rumored), Firefly and 2 Sex In The City movies. And then there are the parodies: Brady Bunch and Dukes. Some are more successful than others, but an already established fan base is certain money to say the least. If they budget based on that, they can turn a profit easy. Think about what they were able to do with District 9's budget. I know you liked Superman Returns, but the big budget didn't help an ill conceived plot. Smallville has done A LOT with a little. Take what they would spend on an entire season for 1 movie and it has potential...add to that budget and it has even greater potential for the Superman we all hope to see.

Time is ticking on the Superman rights and has a limited shelf-life without a HUGE price tag attached to it. They have an already established, successful actor identified for 10 seasons of Smallville ready. Welling is on board. The jump to The Man Of Steel and Justice League movie is natural. Some will fight the notion, but as JoshW's poll revealed, many more agree with the idea of Welling for Superman. WB likely agrees, too. It just make sense.
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