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Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/14/2023, 3:00 PM
At this stage, will superheroes even be a viable film property in 2025?
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 7/14/2023, 3:24 PM
@Scarilian - Batman and Spider-man will be, everything else will likely not.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/15/2023, 7:55 AM
@Th3Batman -
Yeah, that seems about right.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2023, 3:05 PM
Vanessa Kirby as MCU Emma Frost



Also , I liked Ultron and the wisecracks I feel made sense given he was atleast partly based on Tony’s brainwaves in the version…

However I wouldn’t mind him back with Spader in the role again (Ross Marquand did decent in What If but it just wasn’t the sane imo).
TheBlueMorpho
TheBlueMorpho - 7/14/2023, 3:07 PM
I'll said it before and I'll say it again, I wish they didn't kill Crossbones and he was on the Thunderbolts team.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 7/14/2023, 3:08 PM
Played by Ryan Reynolds and Dave Dasmaltchian, keep it going!
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 7/14/2023, 3:10 PM

Fun Fact: Apparently Emma Frost isn't actually British.🤯

"After absorbing Astrid's memories and knowledge, Emma took a bit of the young woman's psyche and kept it. This is why her native Boston accent was replaced by a British one. It's not unlike Rogue taking Captain Marvel's powers completely when she absorbed Carol Danvers' abilities".
Forthas
Forthas - 7/14/2023, 3:12 PM
All of these calls for super heroes to be fantastical because "many" fans want that is the fastest ticket to bankruptcy.

NONE of DC’s most “grounded” films (The Dark Knight Trilogy, Man of Steel, Joker and The Batman) have ever lost money for the studio. Half of them made a billion dollars for the studio and five of the six have brought the studio critical acclaim. the data does not lie. There record for fantastical films have nowhere near that record of success.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 7/14/2023, 4:11 PM
@Forthas -

Was Avengers, Infinity War, or Endgame grounded?



Didn’t all three of those films make more money than all the films you mentioned?
Forthas
Forthas - 7/14/2023, 6:19 PM
@HulkisHoly - Sure...but that is not the point. I am not saying that no fantastical film can make money or that it is not well made. However, the box office for films in the Marvel franchise are not consistent. For every Avengers, there is an Ant-Man, for every Infinity War there is a Black Widow and for every Endgame there is an Incredible Hulk. Those films lost money or struggled to break even for the studio. ALSO in terms of profitability, Joker was more profitable than Avengers. The problem with high fantasy is that it costs a lot of money to deliver the fantasy elements of the film and in the case of the Avengers films to bring numerous high profile characters to life in one film. The more they lean into the fantasy, the LESS likely the films will reach a billion dollars. There is a reason why NONE of the Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy films have ever crossed the billion dollar threshold the tow most fantastical of the Marvel franchises. If you take a look at franchises historically you see the same pattern.

BURTON'S BATMAN - Tim Burton approached the Batman franchise more seriously than previous iterations (specifically the campy version from the 1960”s.) While I would not call his films grounded, they were more mature and realistic than later versions helmed by Joel Schumacher. When he took over the audience quickly soured on the higher fantasy elements.

DONNER’S SUPERMAN - Again, the original took the subject matter the most seriously where people looked like they reflected the real world. As subsequent Supeman films became less tethered to reality the quality and the box office began to decline

STAR WARS- The more serious take on the space saga is represented in the first trilogy. As it became more cartoonish and ridiculous (the Prequel Trilogy) the Star Wars franchise became the topic of derision.

So the point is that if a studio wants to make films with both good quality that will make a profit, it is better if the lean toward the grounded approach for films.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/14/2023, 3:46 PM
90 percent of the MCU villains should be redone.

Also, Malekith, really? Of all the villains MCU [frick]ed up, this one needs rebooting the most? And also, anyone who's read Thor comics before 2012 (clearly not the MCU fans or its directors) know that Malekith was always a great character, and Aaron's run didn't do shit to improve upon the character. The MCU [frick]ed him for the same reasons they [frick]ed up everything else with Thor after Branagh left the franchise.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 7/14/2023, 3:50 PM
Lex Luthor! An OG that’s constantly getting [frick]ed over dirty in these movies and deserves a proper adaptation. Here’s hoping Gunn finally gets your boy right

RolandD
RolandD - 7/14/2023, 6:28 PM
@PlusUltra - Both Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey can play evil very well but in all their appearances, Lex Luthor was played way to campy.
Baf
Baf - 7/14/2023, 3:51 PM
Picking on Nolan here a bit?
Marvel:
Crossbones
Red Skull
Whiplash
Ghost
Shocker
Gorr the God Butcher
Kang
Namor
DC:
Aries
Parallax
Steppenwolf
Lex Luthor
Cheetah
Maxwell Lord
Mr. Freeze
All horrible and deserving of a second chance.

MrKayDeeBee
MrKayDeeBee - 7/14/2023, 4:15 PM
@Baf -You missed Taskmaster, lol
Baf
Baf - 7/14/2023, 4:18 PM
@MrKayDeeBee - Taskmaster!
The only ones on this article:
Doom
Galactus
Maybe Malekith
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2023, 4:19 PM
@MrKayDeeBee - I feel like Taskmaster was fine and can be improved upon as we move forward , same with Shocker and others that are still alive.

Unless your issue is they didn’t do the Tony Masters version then fair enough I guess
Baf
Baf - 7/14/2023, 4:19 PM
@MrKayDeeBee - Doomsday!
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/14/2023, 4:41 PM
@Baf - Justin Hammer and The Mandarin are missing. I don't give a shit what they did in Shang-Chi; that ain't the Mandarin. And Hammer was [frick]ed up in iM2 and won't be improved, since now his foil is dead and Hammer will most likely be turned into yet another villain-turned-useful-ally crap. Those two are Iron Man's biggest enemies. The Mandarin for obvious reasons and Hammer for being instrumental in exposing Stark's alcoholism.
Baf
Baf - 7/15/2023, 12:22 PM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - The Mandarin was so badly used I actually forgot he even existed
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 7/14/2023, 4:19 PM
Bane would be awesome to see in Gunn’s DCU…as long as it’s not Batista.

Personally I think he’d make a perfect Blofeld/ Moriarty to span across multiple films working in the shadows.
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/14/2023, 4:43 PM
Like to see bane and galactus get another chance
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 7/14/2023, 5:23 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Tom Hardy's Bane something fierce, but all I want is a comic accurate Bane.
grif
grif - 7/14/2023, 6:28 PM
bane has been in the movies twice and in live action tv at least once i think.
Repian
Repian - 7/14/2023, 9:54 PM
emeraldtaurus
emeraldtaurus - 7/15/2023, 6:16 AM
@Repian - Mark Strong as Sinestro was the one and only good thing bout that awful GL movie.. pity they couldn't keep him for the reboot.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 7/14/2023, 10:14 PM
Name doesn’t need a second chance. Because he was amazing in the DKR
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 7/15/2023, 6:27 AM
How about Loki?
😅😀😄🤣😂☺️

I kid


If I had to pick one it would be skrulls. I haven't seen the show but I figure that they were butchered.
Though Captain Marvel forewarned me of the change.

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