Why COMIC BOOK Movies Suck !!

Why COMIC BOOK Movies Suck !!

Sometimes the answer as to why a paticular Comic Book Movie was less than stellar is right under our very noses. You just have to look HARD enough !!

Editorial Opinion
By dageekundaground - Aug 18, 2010 10:08 PM EST
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Source: Shadowgeek10



YOU JUST gotta LOVE GOOD OLE' SAM JACKSON
(Man, I just love that cackling laugh)





Regarding the X-men Franchise and Bryan Singer

Bryan Singer was looking to do a science fiction film after the release of The Usual Suspects. Fox approached Singer for Alien Resurrection, but producer Tom DeSanto felt X-Men would be a better opportunity as he was impressed with how Singer directed an ensemble cast in The Usual Suspects. Singer turned down the offer, believing that comic books were unintelligent literature. By July 1996, Singer had further turned down the film another two times, and finally accepted after reading the comics and watching the animated series. The themes of prejudice in the comic resonated with Singer.


Fox, who had projected the budget at $75 million, rejected the treatment, which they estimated it would have cost $5 million more. Beast, Nightcrawler, Pyro, and the Danger Room had to be deleted before the studio greenlighted X-Men. Fox head Thomas Rothman argued that this would enhance the story, and Singer concurred that removing the Danger Room allowed him to focus on other scenes he preferred. Elements of Beast, particularly his medical expertise, were transferred to Jean Grey

For the role of Wolverine, Gary Sinise, Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, Viggo Mortensen, Aaron Eckhart, Edward Norton and Jean Claude Van Damme were all considered. At one point in the 1990s, Glenn Danzig was approached to play Wolverine in ad hoc committee X-Men film, because he bore an uncanny resemblance to the character, as well as being the same height as Wolverine, and very muscular.

Dougray Scott was originally cast as Wolverine, but was forced to pull out of the project due to scheduling conflicts with Mission:Impossible II. Fox on the other hand wanted Keanu Reeves for the part.

Eventually, Bryan found just the right kind of actor he was looking for to portray the Iconic character of "Wolverine", a man with just the right amount of Marlboro Macho "guy" Toughness and "Man-child" sensitivity.

... Hugh Jackman ...



... and thus, a star was born.


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NERO
NERO - 8/18/2010, 10:44 PM
Ooookay.... Why do they suck? I think you forgot what you article was about.
FlashGordon2287
FlashGordon2287 - 8/18/2010, 10:47 PM
.....I am so confused. What does the title and the story have to do with each other
dageekundaground
dageekundaground - 8/19/2010, 4:04 AM
I was going to wait until I saw a few more comments first but you two guys seem to need me to say that this little blurb is taking a dig at Samuel Jackson for sounding like a complete jackass and a unprofessional hack ... and the second video well ... if you dont get where I'm going ... then I don't know what to tell you.

P.S. Bryan Siunger didn't know squat about the X-Men property b4 taking the job and turning out what appears to be a two hour film on tolerence and forgeting that the characters were superheroes


But hey, I guess you like your whiny teen "Scott Summers", Anorexic Jean Grey, barely there Halley Berry and Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine and ... yes even more Wolverine.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 8/19/2010, 6:49 AM
Good article and Well put. I see where you went with it and I hope a discussion arises from this one. Haven't had a good Discussion in a while.....
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 7:54 AM
@ dageekunderground

but...tolerance and prejudice is the ENTIRE point of the X-Men. Thats their theme and always has been. Its the entire reason Xavier formed them in the first place. You can't have the X-Men without that stuff. 90% of the X-Men's villains are people who either want to subjugate or destroy humanity so that mutants can rule. I don't think he was wrong for exploring that at all.

I can understand people not liking his version of X-Men. Its your opinion. But thats not a good argument to me.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 8/19/2010, 8:04 AM
yeah im with NERO and FlashGordon
TheLonelyComicBookNerd
TheLonelyComicBookNerd - 8/19/2010, 9:16 AM
Nightcrawler and Beast were under played they should have started off with the original five and had a whole bunch of other X-men and mutants come in the picture and progress, Each character didn't have enough story and We only have wolverine's origin which we learned in X2 and hopefully X-men:First Class will be better. I want nightcrawler and beast back!
dageekundaground
dageekundaground - 8/19/2010, 9:26 AM
@ brazilianbatman

I never said that I wanted Wolverine in Yellow spandex.

...and furthermore, why can't I have a GOOD X-MEN movie with BOTH a DECENT STORY & KICK ASS set pieces. Is that TOO MUCH to ASK ?!!

Christopher Nolan certainly didn't think so.

@ CorndogBurglar
... I'm sure that most kids, teens and college students were picking up X-Men during the late 80's to late 90's making it a block buster comic because they wanted to read about the themes you underlined in your "comment" to me.

Do yourself a favor and go watch "Milk" with Sean Penn.
dageekundaground
dageekundaground - 8/19/2010, 9:32 AM
BTW ... who's arguing ?

Read the last part of the articule to get a "clue" as to the nature and spirit this was written in.

@ the following posters, just one more question.

CorndogBurglar
brazilianbatman
jimoakley666

What is you favorite single issue of X-Men the comic ?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 10:12 AM
@ dageekunderground

" I'm sure that most kids, teens and college students were picking up X-Men during the late 80's to late 90's making it a block buster comic because they wanted to read about the themes you underlined in your "comment" to me.

Do yourself a favor and go watch "Milk" with Sean Penn."

dud, first of all, why did you put "comment" in quotes? are you insinuating that i didn't really comment? lol

second, its just ironic that you say Singer doesn't get the X-Men, yet you're the one that seems to not understand what the X-Men are all about. Prejudice and intolerance are what the X-Men are all about. Period. They're not just a bunch of superheroes that only got together to protect the world. Its what separates them from teams like the Avengers and Fantastic Four. They aren't just saving the day, they're fighting for a cause, which is the intolerance and prejudice of mutants.

and to answer your question, I can't say a single issue, because there is no single issue that has a beginning and end. So i'll say my favorite arc, which is X-Men #'s 1-3, by Chris Claremont and drawn by Jim Lee. It captures EVERYTHING that makes the X-Men what they are. I suggest you read it if you haven't.
dageekundaground
dageekundaground - 8/19/2010, 11:19 AM
@CorndogBurglar

... that's exactly what I thought you were gonna say.
Yeah, I read those issues upon their initial run and actually owned them. Thet're mostly splash pages anyway.


LMFAO !!

P.S. No drama please, but I uh, like the passion you exhibited while explaining your opinion. Society needs more people like you.

BTW: Jim Lee mimicks the art style of John Byrne in his heyday of doing the landmark issues of Uncanny X-Men & the Iconic run on Fantastic Four with inker Terry Austin.
HotHead
HotHead - 8/19/2010, 11:56 AM
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 12:13 PM
@ dageekunderground

well its true though, man. look at all their villains.

Magneto/Acolytes: wants mutants to rule and will kill any humans who stand in his way.

Apocalypse: Believes that mutants are the future. He's constantly pitting humans and mutants agains each other to see who is worthy to inherit the earth.

Cameron Hodge: He wants all mutants to die.

Sentinels: They were created for the sole purpose of killing/capturing all mutants and putting them into internment camps.

Friends of Humanity: They're a mutant hate group.

William Stryker/Purifiers: Wants all mutants to die.

Bastion: Wants all mutants to die.

These are just some of the more popular ones. The list goes on and on. ANY comic with those villains is dealing with prejudice and intolerance, whether people realize it or not. Without those themes, those villains wouldn't even have a reason to be villains. So yeah, prejudice is something that you can't do without when dealing with the X-Men.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 8/19/2010, 12:42 PM
Now, Im a DC guy so I dont know all that much about the X-Men. But from what I do know, CDB seems to have a point. Intolerance is the X-Mens ultimate enemy I always though. Cuz when I think of superheroes I think of someone who goes out and actively fights crime. Dont the X-Men mostly chill in the X-Mansion until mostly mutant-centric trouble comes up? The only real flaw I saw in Singer's movies is that Wolverine was focused on way to much. Besides that, it seemed to get the main themes of X-Men just fine.

Also, I really dont get the point that this article is making.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 8/19/2010, 1:06 PM
dageekundaground@ you still haven't told anyone why/how this article is proving CBMs suck...

you seem to think the blame lies with Singer, when your article paints him as the good guy, and FOX the meddling bad guy. I've read your editorial over and over and am not seeing anything that tells us "...and this is why CBMs suck." and next time you might want to pick a different movie than the one that almost single handedly ushered in the era of high quality, serious CBMs that we are currently in.

while you like to name drop all the comics you've read and own you display a very little understanding of actual story telling. you said: "P.S. Bryan Siunger didn't know squat about the X-Men property b4 taking the job and turning out what appears to be a two hour film on tolerence and forgeting that the characters were superheroes" - i think you're forgetting that superheroes are actually characters themselves. and without good characters no one would care about superheroes. think of the most popular ones.... they have the best back stories and most personality depth to their alter egos.
do you even understand what a character or story arch is? probably not because you said this also: "But hey, I guess you like your whiny teen "Scott Summers", Anorexic Jean Grey, barely there Halley Berry and Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine,Wolverine and ... yes even more Wolverine." you do know that a movie needs to revolve around a central character, right? that it needs to have a beginning, middle, and end? with a climax and character growth? and "whiny teen" cyclops? im pretty sure he was played by a full grown man. barley there berry? who cares about storm anyway? Wolverine was the most popular and everyone knew it so why wouldn't you have a movie focused around him?

soooo why do CBMs suck according to you? the first commenter asked that and i still havent seen an answer...
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 2:51 PM
@ dageek

one more thing man. X-Men 1-3 wasn't mostly splash pages. where did you get that idea? maybe you need to go re-read them or something? there was more story in a single issue of that then just about any comic nowadays.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 2:55 PM
@ jimoakley

i think he was trying to guage what versions of the X-Men we're fans of. over the years, there ar MANY types of villains and story points that have been done. They've been to space with the Shi'ar, fought the alien Brood. In Astonishing, they actually did try to do the regular superhero thing, but soon put a stop to that. There's the Inferno age when they were fighting demons.


So yeah, i think he was trying to see what we liked the most out of X-Men canon over the generations. I can't speak for him though.

but anyway, good choices though! Grant Morrison's run is split down the middle as far as fans go, but i personally loved them! :)

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/19/2010, 4:55 PM
@ jimoakley

I liked the Australian run. I loved when the Reavers crucified Wolvie on the big X. Classic!

I never liked Longshot and Dazzler, though.

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