STAR WARS: James Mangold's FIRST JEDI Movie May Have Just Got A New Title With Ties To THE LAST JEDI

STAR WARS: James Mangold's FIRST JEDI Movie May Have Just Got A New Title With Ties To THE LAST JEDI

Logan director James Mangold's Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi movie may have just got a new title based on comments from one of The Acolyte's producers. Surprisingly, that links it to 2017's The Last Jedi...

By JoshWilding - May 18, 2024 03:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: SFX (via SFFGazette.com)

During last April's Star Wars Celebration in London, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny director James Mangold confirmed plans to head into a Galaxy Far, Far Away to tell the story of the First Jedi. 

While it's been revealed that this Star Wars movie will be set roughly 25,000 years before the events of The Phantom Menace, few updates have been shared since. That's likely because the Logan director is currently busy shooting his Bob Dylan biopic. 

Talking to SFX (via SFFGazette.com), Rogue One: A Star Wars Story and The Acolyte producer Simon Emanuel potentially revealed a new title for a movie we've been referring to as Dawn of the Jedi

"James Mangold's Jedi Prime is set thousands and thousands of years before [the original trilogy]," he said, "and I'm really excited to see what happens there."

Jedi Prime?

Not only is that a pretty cool name, but it may have major implications for the movie itself. The Prime Jedi first appeared in the form of a mosaic in 2017's Star Wars: The Last Jedi. The image was created by concept artist Seth Engstrom and inspired by the Taoist iconography of yin and yang, the balance between dualities. 

All we know is that the Prime Jedi was the first Jedi to use the Force and founded the Jedi Order on Ahch-To. This is the character Mangold will focus on and is someone Lucasfilm has seemingly wanted to reveal more about for a while now (originally, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss were attached to a trilogy about the Galaxy's First Jedi).

Last year, Mangold explained what drew him to tell a story set thousands of years before any other Star Wars movie or TV show.

"When I talked to some of the Star Wars clerics that keep track of all of these timelines, I was like 'So when would this happen.' And they were like '25,000 years before Episode I,' and I was like 'Oh, I was looking for some distance, but that’s distance.' I’ll do it, I might find Charlton Heston in an abandoned subway station but I’ll do it."

"The reality for me is that that feeling of space, no pun intended, was something that I felt was really important not to get away from fan service or the intricacies of what George had set up and dreamed of," he continued, "but to just have the space to tell a story and not be instantly encumbered with the bases you have to hit."

"Which, honestly, there’s no way to explain it to folks other than to say it’s like that game we played as kids, 'Twister.' At a certain point, you are in a tangle, because you’re just trying to find ways to tell a story with so many constraints that you can."

Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi doesn't have a confirmed release date, though we don't anticipate seeing it in theaters until 2027 or 2028 at the earliest.

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S8R8M
S8R8M - 5/18/2024, 3:43 AM
I hope none of the movies happen.
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 5/18/2024, 3:43 AM
Mangold built all this trust from me consistently for years from making good movies, then single-handed destroyed it when he made this POS:

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A joke of a movie and an insult to a beloved franchise. Made Crystal Skull look like a Citizen Kane.
ThorArms
ThorArms - 5/18/2024, 3:55 AM
@kylo0607 - it wasn't THAT bad. Even so, one bad movie doesn't mean everything a director does from now on will be bad. I hated TLJ but that doesn't mean everything Rian Johnson does in the future is going to be trash

Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/18/2024, 4:05 AM
@kylo0607
We don't deal in absolutes here, sir.

Only a Sith does.

Wait...
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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 4:18 AM
@kylo0607 - I thought it followed the Indiana Jones formula pretty well. It's just that it didn't offer anything that didn't make it feel entirely worth it
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 5/18/2024, 7:27 AM
@kylo0607 - Agreed, we already had an "Old Indy" movie with Crystal Skull, 5 was just "well he's even older now" and added nothing of value. Indy should have stayed in the past, if anything. The chick was even more annoying than Shia LeBoeuf.

Then they're trying to tie this with TLJ ? It's like they actively want to destroy whatever goodwill they may have left.
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 5/18/2024, 9:01 AM
@ThorArms - but…but this is cbm.com where one bad movie makes a valued director become instantly hated and trashed.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 5/18/2024, 9:36 AM
@ThorArms - I thought there was a good bit to enjoy about the movie. Didn't like Helena at all, and there is a number of stuff in it that, well, just kind of made the movie suck a good bit too. I think the hate is excessive, but also justified and not unwarranted. So yeah, I also don't think it was THAT bad. Rather enjoyed Mads Mikkelsen's villain, Voller. He felt like a classic villain out of Raiders or Last Crusade, although (and I can't believe I'm saying this) the repeating joke in the movie about essentially, "well they're a nazi" went on just too many times throughout.
newhire13
newhire13 - 5/18/2024, 11:03 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - So overdramatic 😂
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 4:22 AM
I thought The Last Jedi introduced some interesting concepts, the Prime Jedi included. Not sure about the title, but the mosaic kinda reminded me of the Jedi Schism (Schism in the Force would be a better title imo).
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/18/2024, 10:12 AM
@bkmeijer1 - if by interesting concepts you mean post modern deconstructionist dribble...then yes.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 6:03 PM
@McMurdo - only the Jedi Books and what was in them to be honest. Force projection was cool too
clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 5/20/2024, 7:49 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I'd rather not give the shithead trolls the gift of a title that rhymes with "jism."
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/20/2024, 8:52 AM
@clintthahamster - yeah okay, good point
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 5/18/2024, 5:21 AM
How do you lose 300 million on a beloved franchise and still get to make the next Star Wars?

That would be like losing hundreds of million on the flash and being given the next Batman film.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 5/18/2024, 6:32 AM
@BeyondtheFuture - He didn’t lose them 300M. Indy isn’t a brand that sales anymore, not that they did a good job selling it in the first place. It doesn’t matter who made that film, the result would have always been the same.

You wouldn’t blame Denis Villeneuve for Blade Runner flopping.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 5/18/2024, 12:36 PM
@BeyondtheFuture - Box Office numbers do not tie directly into Director success...but you knew that already...
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/18/2024, 6:36 AM
James Mangold directing a SW film set 25,000 years before the events of the Skywalker saga…. That’s pretty neat. I always wanted to see a story that was prehistoric in nature and I’m in the minority (less the 1%) who love the last Jedi. Second favourite SW film after Empire. I got a good feeling about this one.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/18/2024, 7:31 AM
@TheMetaMan - there are more TLJ fans like you and me then you might think…

It’s definitely my favorite of the sequel trilogy and maybe one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars overall

It has its issues but the Luke -Rey & Kylo stuff just connects with me so strongly.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/18/2024, 8:02 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Wow, a person of culture. Thank you. Yes the Luke-Rey-Kylo dynamic resonates deeply with me too. It’s my favourite performance of Hamil as Luke Skywalker. I love the portrayal of Luke, his arc and resolution.

The cinematography is the best I’ve ever witnessed in a SW film. The production value is fantastic, great set pieces, set/art design, all of it. It has a flabby midsection but nonetheless the film hits its target.
A visceral experience that is reflective in both theme and symbolism of SW as a whole. Strangely the film feels so authentic to me.

I love Yoda’s cameo, a nice callback to the ESB. Most importantly I love the narrative subversion, it doesn’t stick to formula instead Rian Johnson made quite possibly the most “legitimate fan-made” SW film that any filmmaker could make. Well that’s how I perceive it. There’s this spiritual essence to it that I can’t get enough of.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/18/2024, 8:04 AM
@TheMetaMan - agreed

He made The Force feel mysterious and spiritual again rather then something scientific which I enjoyed.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/18/2024, 7:24 AM
I'm always down to watch Disney throw a few hundred million out the window!

LFG!!!
Marron92
Marron92 - 5/19/2024, 9:01 AM
@Batmangina - The prequels were terrible and even your "masterpiece" Mandalorian didn't get to season 2 before becoming a trainwreck parody.

Cope.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/19/2024, 8:53 PM
@Marron92 - Phantom Menace is a tranquilizer. Attack of the Clones is 47% decent and Revenge of the Sith is a work of [frick]ing high art compared to the drizzling shits that Disney has had since taking the wheel.

The Mandalorian S1 was [frick]ing stellar by comparison to ANY Disney Star Wars theatrical product but that's like being the smartest kid in Special Ed.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 5/18/2024, 7:29 AM
Yay, yet another incoming dumpster fire for me to warm my hands to.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/18/2024, 7:30 AM
Even if it sounded a bit generic , I liked Dawn of The Jedi as a title and might even prefer The First Jedi (it also creates a nice tie to the Last Jedi and might be a cool companion piece).

Jedi Prime just sounds weird but maybe it might grow on me , I’m just expecting Optimus to show up then lol.
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/18/2024, 7:36 AM
Of course another prequel movie can’t be something new for once takes place after new trilogy
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 5/18/2024, 8:26 AM
Disney's ability to significantly devalue the most popular cultural IPs with massive fanbases they bought up is really astounding. It's very impressive, most people could never do that even if they tried.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 5/18/2024, 8:33 AM
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Marron92
Marron92 - 5/19/2024, 9:14 AM
@SuperCat - Gain taste
HermanM
HermanM - 5/18/2024, 8:54 AM
Zero interest in this garbage and I hope it bombs
Marron92
Marron92 - 5/19/2024, 9:02 AM
@HermanM - Enjoy the basement, rage-baby X-)
HermanM
HermanM - 5/19/2024, 9:10 AM
@Marron92 - I'll enjoy it more than this trash movie, as will most people
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