RUMOR: A List Of Unconfirmed Deleted Scenes From SUICIDE SQUAD Has Surfaced
An eagle-eyed user on Reddit has seemingly discovered and/or compiled an expansive unofficial list of all of the rumored scenes that were cut from David Ayer's critically maligned Suicide Squad. UPDATED!
Suicide Squad has only been out in theaters three days, but there's already been more than enough said from a variety of sources about the behind-the-scenes decisions that led to Warner Bros. opting for a more family-friendly cut of the film versus the original "somber" edition and left a vast number of scenes, some of which were teased in the trailers, on the cutting room floor. And, even though David Ayer has gone on record saying that the poorly received theatrical cut of the film is his director's cut, that hasn't stopped rabid fans from clamoring all weekend for a potential Ultimate Cut.
Academy Award-winning star Jared Leto, who received second billing on the film, has easily been the most vocal member of the cast on the matter, recently expressing his dissatisfaction with having almost all of his scenes as the Joker cut from the final version and now, we may have a small beat on why WB changed course, thanks to reddit user Naydawwwg, who has seemingly come across a list of all the rumored deleted and/or altered scenes from Suicide Squad.
As far as we know, the list is an unofficial compilation, but if it is indeed an accurate representation of what was taken out, it sounds like the original cut may not have fared much better with critics and/or with audiences as it seems to have emphasized the nastier, more criminal, and downright despicable elements of each member of the Squad, save for Deadshot. The deleted scenes also, as expected feature a lot more Joker, and expand on his dark relationship with Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, which was originally depicted as a more psychologically abusive, borderline torturous dynamic versus the twisted love story seen in theaters.
It'd be best to consider everything listed below as a rumor for the time being, but it does sound fairly spot-on with everything reported and seen in trailers prior to the film's release. Check it out:
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In early cuts, the movie's opening detailed June Moone's posession by Enchantress in real time. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favor of a new opening centered on Deadshot.
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Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.
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El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.
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El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.
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Early interviews mentioned Captain Boomerang's racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behavior, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.
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Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he lived his entire life as a social outcast due to his physical deformities and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham's crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as 'beautiful,' one of these were retained in the final cut.
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Also deleted was a scene where he (Croc) becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.
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Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.
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More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moone's romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.
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Another scene where Flag and Moone are out on a date.
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Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, "I can't wait to show you my toys," which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.
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Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.
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Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker's head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.
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Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue by the Joker.
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Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.
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Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.
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Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley's neck-bomb to be disabled.
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More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all other members of the squad.
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Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone's orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, is "a good idea." The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot's speech about them almost pulling the mission off.
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Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.
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Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.
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Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Suicide Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.
Additionally, a couple unconfirmed scenes not mentioned include at least two new scenes with Deadshot & Rick Flag, a scene where Deadshot fights the Enchantress, a scene with Captain Boomerang returning to the Squad after leaving them, and a small story arc between Harley Quinn & Boomerang. Ezra Miller's cameo as The Flash was also retroactively added.
It's obviously unclear what ultimately led to the production team choosing to cut so many scenes, but with rumors circulating that test audiences didn't respond all that well to the initial cut, it can probably be assumed the planned reshoots played a major role in reshaping the film and essentially helping it save face by making it more fun & entertaining, as advertised, and not as dark & dour. Also, with all of this new information surfacing, it's probably still relatively unlikely we see an extended cut down the line, especially since readding most of the unused sequences would result in the theatrical version becoming an entirely different film and not just a minor enhancement on the original like the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition proved to be.
Here's a photo of the list, although it may be a little small to actually read:
UPDATE: Reddit user seventhonmars has posted a handful of differences between the theatrical version of the film and The Official Movie Novelization, which seem to indicate that a vast majority of the changes occurred in the first act with the rest of the movie mostly playing out as is.
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The story begins with June Moone investigating the caves. She'd being haunted by nightmares of a woman. She's travelled half way around the world to search for something that potentially may not exist. She knows the name 'Enchantress'. She is accompanied by two people, Manuel and Luis, mountain guides she has worked with for several years. She can also speak Spanish. The mountain guides refuse to go into the cave with her. It seems like June has been plagued by these dreams for a long time.
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The story then goes to Arkham Asylum where it has been a peaceful night, until masked thugs descend from helicopters into the courtyard. They kill all the guards. The thugs are looking specifically for Harleen. "Doctor Quinzel. How nice of you to join us. You're looking... good enough to eat. Figuratively speaking, of course. I'm strictly vegan. At least today". The Joker then implies that the electroshock therapy is revenge for her doing it to him, and 'scorching what few dead and faded memories I had into a sizzling knot...'. In the film Harley seems to not fear the Joker but in here she's pleading for him to let her go. But then she starts to enjoy it, asking for more pain and pleasure.
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Then we go to Deadshot who is out in town. He gives coupons to homeless men and then watches them scramble to get them. We get the scene with him preparing to shoot the guy.
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Then we get the club scene which is largely unchanged.
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A scene with Deadshot and his daughter that was in the movie, but also him arguing with his ex-wife, and then Batman.
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Then the Joker and Harley in the car. We find out why the track is called 'You can't make my teeth hurt' and the line 'Hope you've got insurance'. The Joker doesn't give a shit and laughs at the fact that he drives into Gotham river leaving Harley to die. Batman says 'Joker took something important from me. It's my turn'.
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Then Harley in Belle Reve and Deadshot, being taken by Griggs.
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The Ace Chemicals scene is extended. It's implied the Joker makes her jump off as a joke, but then changes his mind similar to the film.
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He (Joker) manages to jump out of the helicopter. The helicopter crashes into a bank building. He laughs knowing that money is burning inside. 'God, I love the smell of burning cash in the morning'. I haven't read up to there yet but from a search it appears that he's not in it after that which I find confusing. I'll keep reading. The story has the same ending, though, with the Joker breaking Harley out.
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Description of the extended Ace Chemicals scene: The scene goes as follows:
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Joker points down towards the vats.
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Joker: "There. I was born down there."
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Harley stares down. She desperately wants the same.
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Joker: "Would you die for me?"
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Harley nods.
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Harley: "Yes."
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Joker: "No... that's too easy. Would you live for me?"
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Joker smiles, scaring her.
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Joker: "Will you embrace me, and only me?"
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Harley nods vigorously.
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Joker: "Will you bind your spirit to mine... in hate? Do you consign your soul to me? Do you laugh at the world in disgust?"
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Harley: "...yes."
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Joker: "Do not say this oath thoughtlessly. Desire becomes surrender. Surrender becomes power. Do you want it? Do you really want it?"
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Harley: "I do. I do."
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Joker: "Then goodbye, Doctor Quinzel."
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Joker gestures towards the edge of the vat. Without hesitation she jumps.
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Joker thinks "She's gone, forever. Problem solved." He pauses and touches his chest. He feels something. Love? Of course not. He couldn't see her floating face down and dying. Which was the original plan. He jumps down.
So, what do you guys think? Disappointed? Sound off with your thoughts below!
It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Super Villains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?
Suicide Squad features:
Director: David Ayer
Will Smith as Floyd Lawton/Deadshot
Jared Leto as The Joker
Margot Robbie as Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn
Viola Davis as Amanda Waller
Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flagg
Jai Courtney as George "Digger" Harkness/Captain Boomerang
Cara Delevingne as June Moone/Enchantress
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Waylon Jones/Killer Croc
Jay Hernandez as Chato Santana/El Diablo
Adam Beach as Christopher Weiss/Slipknot
Karen Fukuhara as Tatsu Yamashiro/Katana
Jim Parrack as Jonny Frost/Psuedo Joker
Ike Barinholtz as Griggs
Common as Monster T
Scott Eastwood as Lt. GQ Edwards
Alex Meraz as Gomez
David Harbour as Dexter Tolliver
Corina Calderon as Grace Santana
Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash
Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman
Suicide Squad is out in theaters everywhere NOW!
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