DAREDEVIL Stars Reveal BORN AGAIN Had No Connections To Netflix Series Before Creative Overhaul

DAREDEVIL Stars Reveal BORN AGAIN Had No Connections To Netflix Series Before Creative Overhaul

Daredevil stars Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio have revealed that the original version of Marvel Studios' Born Again featured no direct links to the Netflix series. You can find more details here...

By JoshWilding - May 16, 2024 02:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: TV Insider

Since 2021, Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock and Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin of Crime have shown up in various MCU TV shows.

We've seen the Man Without Fear in Spider-Man: No Way Home, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, and Echo, with Wilson Fisk appearing in the latter and Hawkeye. However, these two haven't shared the screen since Daredevil wrapped up on Netflix six years ago.

That's set to change in Disney+'s Daredevil: Born Again and, in an interview with TV Insider, D'Onofrio revealed that the revival originally featured no significant links to Daredevil

"It originally wasn’t going to be at all, but now it’s a lot," the actor said of crossovers between the two. Cox chimed in to say there's now "a lot" of them, presumably meaning Foggy Nelson, Karen Page, Bullseye, and The Punisher were M.I.A. in the previous iteration of Born Again.

As for what led to the change, Cox said, "I think [it’s] the fans. I think [it’s] the studio as well."

"That’s a really fine balance to strike," he added. "If you’re going to remake a show and call it Season 1 and it was a successful show and it was kind of beloved, then you’ve got to do what people liked. But also you’ve got to have a reason for remaking it. So you have to change it up a bit. And that’s just a really fine balance to find."

"I think that they’ve done a beautiful job doing that," Cox teased. "And hopefully, the old fans – the O.G.s – will love it and also, we’ll maybe pick up a few more fans on the way."

As for what we can expect from his return as Daredevil, the actor said, "It’s still such a privilege to put that suit on and to still be the age that I’m at and still be able to play a superhero. I don’t take that for granted at all. My knees are a little bit more sore. My back and neck are struggling a little bit, but they’ll have to pry it off me at some points."

It sounds like Marvel Studios has done the right thing with Daredevil: Born Again and all signs currently point to it being the series Daredevil fans have been waiting for. 

Still, we can't help but wonder what the previous iteration of the show looked like. Just how disastrous might it have been had original showrunners Matt Corman and Chris Ord been allowed to continue without Kevin Feige stepping in? Who knows. 

Starring Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofrio, Jon Bernthal, Margarita Levieva, Michael Gandolfini, Genneya Walton, Arty Froushan, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Wilson Bethel, Jeremy Earl, and Ayelet Zurer, Daredevil: Born Again premieres on Disney+ next March.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/16/2024, 2:16 PM
I don't mind, just keep the garbage Iron Fist out of here. Hello Visionary lol
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/16/2024, 2:18 PM
Can't help but notice how everything exciting about the near MCU future is...well, not exactly very MCU-related.
Say, are we gonna get some sort of Agents of Shield relaunch? :P
The1st
The1st - 5/16/2024, 2:21 PM
@Doomsday8888 - They still don't seem to have learned anything. To think fans had to convince them to give fans more of what fans wanted in the first place. I don't know where that kind of hubris comes from...maybe it's the posses.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/16/2024, 2:23 PM
@The1st
Yeah, i won't say Kat but their willingness to course-correct gotta count for something, right? Let's hope they got their wake-up call from the recents flops...
The1st
The1st - 5/16/2024, 2:34 PM
@Doomsday8888 - I dunno, it reminds me of politicians and social media (well politicians doing stupid stuff in this age anyway)...reminiscent of Star Lord in the first Guardians. I'm not sure they know how it works, but I hope you're right.
mountainman
mountainman - 5/16/2024, 3:07 PM
@Doomsday8888 - Highest earning post Endgame movie was a Sony movie.

2nd highest will be a continuation of Fox properties.

Highest rated D+ show was a Fox revival.

Most anticipated show is a Netflix revival.

Your observation tracks.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/16/2024, 3:24 PM
@mountainman
Heh, Le me as a (G)old FoX/Sony Marvel supporter:
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Dread it...run from it...ya can't escape the blast from the past! :P
Evansly
Evansly - 5/16/2024, 2:21 PM
Thank goodness they corrected course
TheLobster
TheLobster - 5/16/2024, 2:30 PM
Marvel had their heads so far up their own asses to think making a show with no connections was a good idea lol

Glad they’re course correcting even if Bullseye has a lame costume lol
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 5/16/2024, 3:01 PM
@TheLobster - As long as Will Bethel is under the mask, Bullseye can look as lame as he wants
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 5/16/2024, 4:38 PM
@TheLobster - While i am team keep Marvel TV canon, i totally understand from a creative point of view wanting to be able to do your own take on Daredevil and the Netflix characters without having to be handcuffed to what a different creative team did without your input

Like lets say if Feige hates what they did with the Hand, but if you bring those shows to canon then that means you have to stay true to what Jeph Loeb did with the Hand as now that is the canon iteration of that group. Ditto with Iron Fist, Iron Fist was so hated i could see Feige wanting to reboot that side of the Netflixverse, but if you make Daredevil canon, then you make everything including Netflix's Iron Fist part of the MCU canon, so Finn Jones Danny Rand is somewhere around in the MCU right now.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/16/2024, 5:11 PM
@eagc1995 - I think it is still selective canon but I am not sure. Recasting can still happen and has happened in the MCU a few times.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/16/2024, 5:19 PM
@eagc1995 - I could see them leaning into post Secret Wars to reboot some stuff like the Hand, they can make Netflix canon but avoid all references to questionable aspect then when the universe is rebooted a group like the Hand could crop up again and NOT be bogged down with issues of the past as has a narrative excuse why some things have changed whilst others remain.
whoknows
whoknows - 5/17/2024, 11:20 AM
@eagc1995 - from what I understand its more a business thing than a creative thing. TV salaries can get crazy, for instance Millie Bobby brown was making 30,000 per Episode season one, last season i believe it was 200-300,000 per episode. So I’d imagine if they continued the show to be season 4 daredevil, all the stars would have reason to get paid as much as season 3 or more. And writers would be adamant about their royalties and such for the new season 4. But if they start over, actors can start over at base pay, writers royalties can reset for the new show. You can correct me if I am wrong, I really dont know much about the bureaucracy there.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/16/2024, 2:34 PM
I’m glad they realized that the show wasn’t working in that iteration and decided to course correct to align it more with the Netflix one that is already beloved…

It honestly shows humility on Marvel’s part that instead of bullheadedly going forward just to so they could make i their own version of the character & world decided for the betterment of the project to incorporate the elements of a version they had nothing to do with it.

I’m still curious and hope we find out more details about the previous incarnation but I’m glad we are getting this as it is now regardless…

Now please don’t kill Foggy as is speculated/rumored!!.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/16/2024, 2:39 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I would be OK if they do assumed dead for a while and see the effect of that on Matt like they did in the comics, carted off in an Ambulance and told he had died but realy in witness protection...


...otherwise, yeh, I would rather they killed off the one who WAS killed in the comics and keep Foggy even if glad for now we have both back. Someone like DD kinda needs a trusted human friend to help keep him grounded, heck most Supes tend to be best when they do but especialy a street level one.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/16/2024, 2:41 PM
@Apophis71 - agreed

I like both Karen & Foggy but if one has to go then maybe it should be the former.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 5/16/2024, 2:41 PM
Glad they rectified that shit. Would be a shame to throw all that character development out the window.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/16/2024, 2:49 PM
Netflix Daredevil season ranking (favorite to least)…

1.S3
2.S1
3.S2

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RolandD
RolandD - 5/16/2024, 5:09 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I would reverse 1 and 2 but not by much.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/16/2024, 5:18 PM
@RolandD - I think 2 takes a bit of a dip with The Hand Stuff though Matt & Elektra’s chemistry was good while 1 didn’t have a dip of that sorts

That initial Punisher arc in S2 though is damn near perfect
RolandD
RolandD - 5/16/2024, 5:25 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree totally. Matt and Elektra were great together if not her entire arc. Like you said, the first half of the season was fire. The contrast between Matt and Frank was perfect and the show didn’t eff Matt with the rooftop seen like Ennis did in the comics.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/16/2024, 3:00 PM
i will enjoy this show, but if they dont at least reference or discuss thanos and the snap i will be kinda disappointed. its all in one house now so no more stupid watered down references to continuity because show runners hate super heroes and want realism extreme. i love DD street level action and stories but its made even better that it is street level in an world where Galactus knocked over buildings two weeks ago and thugs are taken advantage of the confusion.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 5/16/2024, 3:03 PM
@supermanrex - At best they’ll make a small reference who whether or not Matt was blipped, but all that stuff otherwise isn’t Daredevil’s corner of the universe. If anything, they’ll reference Spider-Man or She-Hulk, which makes more sense.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/16/2024, 4:02 PM
@supermanrex - I think they might have it be a mention atleast but we’ll see

I do agree that the juxtaposition of the small scale and large scale stuff is what makes universes like Marvel or DC feel even more special.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/16/2024, 4:04 PM
@FireandBlood - Already confirmed DD wasn't blipped as his scene in Echo was during those 5years cos it was whilst Clint was still running around as Ronin, same with Kingpin.

That isn't to say they can't reference the snaps at all but gets to a point of why would you cos real world type drama's didn't reference 9/11 very often after a couple years, but when narratively significant they still will, same thing and of the day when talking likely five years after the fact now in universe since Endgame (considering Hawkeye, released in 21's was supposed to be two years after).

However having opted to make Netflix canon they probably will use the blip for a reason why Fisk isn't in jail in some way or form.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 5/17/2024, 9:17 AM
@TheVisionary25 - its more realistic that way too. like real life you may enter a conversation or two during your day about bigger scale world events going on in the news but your entire day doesn't hinge upon those events for most people. IE the Israeli conflict or some big natural disaster somewhere. the same should be about the MCU awareness and mentions of big events but those events never overshadow the focus of whatever project unless its a direct tie in somehow. the stuff that gives a geek a little smile is continuity awareness.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/16/2024, 3:37 PM
Marvel realized a new version would just be endlessly compared to the Netflix show that they cannot match...ever. So they made it a continuation. The question isn't "Will it suck?". The question is "How much will it suck?".

So far, Feige's Marvel TV can't even match the quality of early seasons of Arrow or The Flash.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2024, 3:55 PM
@PartyKiller - really? I mean hawkeye and loki s2 and wandavision were pretty memorable. If what you say is right, then I need to begin binging the arrow and the flash!
RolandD
RolandD - 5/16/2024, 5:15 PM
@Vigor - Just read the username and don’t waste your time. 😉
Vigor
Vigor - 5/16/2024, 5:52 PM
@RolandD - I get the good ones and the bad ones mixed up some times. Many of them aren't worth even remembering their usernames

Thanks for the reminder
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