ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Writer Reveals Scrapped Plans For Hank Pym's Death In The Threequel

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Writer Reveals Scrapped Plans For Hank Pym's Death In The Threequel

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania writer Jeff Loveness has revealed new details about Hank Pym's planned demise in the Marvel Studios threequel, along with a bonkers idea for another big sequence...

By JoshWilding - Apr 06, 2023 06:04 AM EST
Source: Backstory Magazine

We've heard rumblings that Marvel Studios considered killing Michael Douglas' Hank Pym in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, but like every other major character, he emerged from the Quantum Realm unscathed. 

Aside from Scott Lang's fears that he made a terrible mistake by not helping Kang the Conqueror escape, the threequel was largely consequence-free. Douglas has repeatedly said he's ready to bid farewell to the original Ant-Man and writer Jeff Loveness has now revealed new details about Hank's scrapped demise. 

"We were going to kill Hank at one point, and I was going to have him be, like, reanimated," he tells Backstory Magazine"His consciousness was going to live on through the ants, and he was going to be like mentally controlling them. Yeah, he was going to be almost like this hive mind of the ants, and I like that...that didn't go too far."

If that sounds like a quirky story, then it pales in comparison to what Loveness had planned for that probability storm. 

"I had like a big man-sized ant that was going to be almost like a ninja turtle, the way they looked in that 90s movie, not CGI, make it almost like a Cronenberg 'The Fly'-like Ant. And it was like in his head. I wanted it to be voiced by Werner Herzog and give it some sort of Holy Mountain kind of advice, some Vision Quest thing."

As a former writer on Rick and Morty, Loveness clearly brought a lot of weird ideas to the table and was reigned in somewhat by Marvel Studios. 

While it would have been a shame to bid farewell to Hank in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, this sounds like a novel approach to his death and a fitting farewell to the hero. Instead, he's sticking around, though we have a feeling both he and Janet will be among Kang's first victims in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty

Also written by Loveness, that movie arrives in theaters on May 2, 2025, while Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania hits Digital on April 18 and Blu-ray on May 16.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 4/6/2023, 6:07 AM
This movie was all bark and no bite, for the fate of the universe on the line, nothing changed. Movies that end up in the same place at the end are a [frick]ing joke. Mid ass forgettable movie lol
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 6:37 AM
@bobevanz - it didn’t end in the same place it started though.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/6/2023, 8:42 AM
@philinterrupted - It basically mostly did.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 9:05 AM
@dagenspear -
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/6/2023, 9:59 AM
@philinterrupted - Yes. Where is this movie's Kang? Still trapped. Where is all our heroic characters? Escaped and fine. No real problems.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 11:58 AM
@dagenspear - is he trapped Or is he dead?
Is Scott the same as when the movie started?

Get it you didn’t like it. But what you’re saying is wrong.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/6/2023, 1:19 PM
@philinterrupted - Never developed in the movie whether or not he actually died. Even the movie isn't certain about it.

The movie started with an arbitrary character point that manifested out of thin air for this movie that basically ended before the first half of the movie was over, so... Scott's "difference" doesn't really mean anything, as it's just a return to who he already was before this, making the movie itself pointless for his character.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 6:05 PM
@dagenspear - you’re looking for Avenger’s level of “difference”. Of course there isn’t. But from a character perspective Scott is in a different place.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/6/2023, 7:46 PM
@philinterrupted - No. I'm looking for a main character in his own movie/series level of difference. You may not realize it, but the fact that, as far as I can tell, you're arguing that Scott's not that important and thus his character arc shouldn't be, basically proves my point. There's plenty of a story angle to play with this character. The movie gives a cheap episodic lesson of the week thing type of "difference" that benefits nothing for the actual character. It basically makes the movie irrelevant for his character.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 10:49 PM
@dagenspear - I didn’t say he wasn’t important. But it’s not a huge story. It’s a smaller scale story. And I think he has just as much of an arc in this movie as he did in the first Ant-Man.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 4/6/2023, 6:19 AM
Damn movie never stood a chance, i see...
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 4/6/2023, 6:21 AM
He says like a lot. Not a whole lot of certainty or confidence going on.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 4/6/2023, 6:38 AM
@BritishMonkey -

The dude abides
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/6/2023, 6:49 AM
The movie looked good from the trailer but turned out being a huge steaming turd.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/6/2023, 7:09 AM
Glad they didn't go with that. Weirder isn't always better
Radders
Radders - 4/6/2023, 7:12 AM
Was Hank Pym in this movie?
Michael Douglas was in it playing someone but it really didn't feel like Pym.

Sounds like bad "wouldn't it be cool if" writing
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 4/6/2023, 2:40 PM
@Radders - this is the MCU, classic characters arent alloweed to be cool.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/6/2023, 7:25 AM
I was really hoping they were going for a No Way Home level third movie with lots of consequences and strong emotional beats.

Instead, it was just another Ant-Man film.
LSHF
LSHF - 4/6/2023, 12:41 PM
@HOTSHOT - Well, it "is" an Ant-Man film, so no surprise there.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 4/8/2023, 9:49 AM
@LSHF - Yeah but the Ant-Man films aren't exactly seen as the top tier of the MCU. This film could've been the one to change that but it didn't.
LSHF
LSHF - 4/8/2023, 1:11 PM
@HOTSHOT - I imagine most all films could be better, and I understand the desire for that. I just try to enjoy what I get; it's more fun that way.
Origame
Origame - 4/6/2023, 8:26 AM
I mean, at least then you get the idea of Kang as a threat. That one of the ant man team had to sacrifice themselves to beat him.
LSHF
LSHF - 4/6/2023, 12:43 PM
I'm glad that the writers had mercy on Hank (writers can be so very cruel).
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 4/6/2023, 1:55 PM
SOMEONE should have died. This movie failed in portraying Kang as a problem and a threat. He couldn't even kill a bunch of ants...
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 4/6/2023, 2:27 PM
@RitoRevolto - if anybody, should’ve been Janet by Kang. Hope would’ve been DEVASTATED. That way, she’d be taken more seriously in the mcu and hate whichever iteration of Kang she crosses paths with.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 4/6/2023, 3:02 PM
@Mrtoke - Makes too much sense, hence why it never happened I guess.
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