The structure of 'Ant-Man'...

...and what it means for the MCU

Editorial Opinion
By mook - Jan 16, 2014 07:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Ant-Man

With Michael Douglas confirmed as Hank Pym and Paul Rudd as Scott Lang it looks like a version of my original idea could be coming true; http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SuperheroSpeculation/news/?a=80908

For a long time the following quote has been the only description of the Ant-Man plot; "The script for Ant-Man has been written by Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish, who plan to include Henry Pym and Scott Lang as major characters, with Pym as Ant-Man in the 1960s in a style similar to 'Tales to Astonish', and a flashforward to Lang as Pym's successor in the 1980s or '90s"

A lot has changed since the idea for Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was put forward before the first Iron Man film was made but I think the basic idea will be retained; Pym in the 1960/70's and then Lang in the modern day (around the same time as Avengers 2).


The basic plot set-up could be something like this;

We start with 'Ant-Man' breaking into a scientific research building to steal certain equipment.

A group of S.H.I.E.L.D agents (including Janet Van Dyne) go question the man that invented the technology – introducing us to the old Pym. This leads to a flashback to the late 1960's with Dr Henry Pym working at S.H.I.E.L.D when he discovers the subatomic "Pym particles". This can lead to a big period Sci-Fi/Spy adventure with Pym's Ant-Man . After this is concluded he decided it was too risky to pursue the life of a Superhero, shelves his uniform/equipment and return to safer lab work - in particular concentrating on his 'Ultron' concept...

Back in the present day (around the same time as 'Avengers 2') we learn that Scott Lang stole the Ant-Man suit and equipment from Pym's home. We can see him committing a few robberies but also discover that he is being blackmailed to steal scientific equipment to protect his daughter who has been kidnapped.

While this is going on, Pym and S.H.I.E.L.D agree that the best way to stop Lang would be for someone else to have the Ant-Man tech. This leads to Pym training Janet Van Dyne to basically become Wasp. This leads to Wasp capturing Lang. Once the reason for Lang's actions are revealed Lang & Wasp team up to get his daughter back and capture the bad guys. Pym does not press charges and a friendship develops between the older Pym acting as mentor to Wasp and Scott Lang, the new Ant-Man. Both Lang and Wasp join the team in Avengers 3...


Some pros for this approach;

The bad guys would not be the usual 'opposite' that we have seen in the other MCU origin films. Instead any of the various groups/compaines can be involved - AIM, Hydra, Quinn, Centipede, etc.

Although 'Captain America: The First Avenger' had modern day bookends this would be the first MCU film set in two different time periods. I'd imagine the 60's/modern day split to be roughly 30/70. This would place part of the story between the first 'Captain America' and 'Iron Man' films in the established MCU timeline, a time period as yet unexplored on-screen.

In the comics Ant-Man and Wasp were founding members of The Avengers. Although this isn't the case in the MCU, having Pym working for S.H.I.E.L.D back in the 1960/70's could allow him to have an early role in the MCU. You could even have him as a key early member of S.H.I.E.L.D.

It could lay groundwork for MCU events e.g Ultron being started by Pym in the 1960/70's and then the research & development carried on by Tony Stark in Avengers 2.

In 'Iron Man 2' Nick Fury states that he knew Howard Stark, who was a founding member of S.H.I.E.L.D. Both men could have cameos in the late 1960's/early 1970's section of the film.

You could have fun Easter Eggs such as early concept designs for the Helicarrier, or set up upcoming films e.g mention that Wakanda is closing it's borders...

It could explain the whereabouts of the Cosmic Cube between being picked up by Howard Stark at the end of 'Captain America' and then appearing with Nick Fury at the end of 'Thor'.

Setting Pym's story in the 1960's avoids having another genius scientist (we already have Stark & Banner) in the modern Avengers team.

A chance for different relationships to be explored in the MCU; the master/apprentice relationship between Pym and Lang/Wasp in the present day.

This would make Wasp her own character rather than just Pym's wife, and bring another female hero into the MCU and Avengers team.

The introduction of Lang would bring in a different type of hero; one who is neither given powers or the inventor - he instead starts as a thief.

They could have a cameo of someone in the Ant-Man suit in 'Avengers 2' but not reveal until the Ant-Man film (released after 'Avengers 2') that it was in fact Lang, in the process of stealing the suit.

If we get an Ant-Man sequel before Avengers 3 it could have Lang becoming Giant-Man, leading to potentially having Pym's Ant-Man, Lang's Giant-Man and Wasp in the battle against Thanos...

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BigK1337
BigK1337 - 1/16/2014, 8:29 AM
Hmm, I like those ideas; they could work out fine. Let's hope the main villain is AIM seeing how they are introduced in IM3 and the guy leading them is, maybe, the Controller.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 1/16/2014, 8:37 AM
In before Pym purists.
CharlesLord
CharlesLord - 1/16/2014, 9:16 AM
Did you just copy and paste the older article? lol but nice write up. Im still on the fence with making Janet (who i really dont like anyway) his daughter but Wright is a fan of Lang (thats the antman he grew up with) so I have faith that hes gonna make everything work out.

Also, im here before the purists come and burn this to the ground
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 1/16/2014, 10:57 AM
Weird, I am actually kind of a Pym Purist here. Well a different variety; more of the one who hopes the character have an integral part of the main story and is shown to be a major science figure in the MCU.

As long as he is not drastically change to be the bad guy, that would be bullshit.

GinjaNinja
GinjaNinja - 1/16/2014, 11:07 AM
I really want to see Hank Pym in the Ant Man suit beating up bad guys. THEN we can switch it up and give Scott Lang the suit. All of that can be accomplished in this film.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 1/16/2014, 11:16 AM
I could see most of this, except your attempt to force Ultron into it. Face the facts, Pym has nothing to do with Ultron in the MCU.
AverageDrafter
AverageDrafter - 1/16/2014, 11:35 AM
I'll just trust Wright, its pretty hard to argue with the track record and I imagine its just going to be ten tons of awesome in ways we can't even imagine right now...
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 1/16/2014, 11:55 AM
Soto

LMFAO!!!!

SuperCat
SuperCat - 1/16/2014, 1:23 PM
F@ck. I wanted Rudd for Pym. Instead we've got a blue pill popping Ant-Man. Good article though!
PewPewMcgee
PewPewMcgee - 1/17/2014, 3:23 AM
Amazing ideas! I can really see it happening!
mook
mook - 1/17/2014, 3:26 AM
@CharlesLord No, just updated with the new info.

@Lhornbk I know, but it would be a nice nod to the fans.

megabatfan
megabatfan - 1/17/2014, 6:54 AM
I was really against the idea of Michael Douglas... I really would have preferred Pym being around Stark/Banner's age & Lang being around Chris Evans/Hemsworth age. But dammit you've sold me on those ideas.
mook
mook - 1/17/2014, 7:11 AM
@megabatfan Thanks. I think Marvel are right to avoid having another scientific genius like Stark or Banner - good to mix it up with a younger thief/ex-con etc.
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