New Rumor Suggests Marvel Heroes From Non-MCU Franchises Will Be The Ones To Save [SPOILER] In SECRET WARS

New Rumor Suggests Marvel Heroes From Non-MCU Franchises Will Be The Ones To Save [SPOILER] In SECRET WARS

A new rumor may suggest that Marvel heroes from past franchises will play a pivotal role in the culmination of Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.

By DanielKlissmman - Dec 22, 2025 08:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Despite its irreverent tone and constant fourth-wall breaks, Deadpool & Wolverine set up a lot of interesting possibilities for the MCU, particularly ones that could serve the narrative of Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars. Among some of them were the Secret Wars comic book tease, a new Wolverine making his way into the Fox X-Men universe, and—perhaps most importantly—the concept of heroes and villains from past, non-MCU Marvel franchises being trapped in the Void location introduced in the Disney+ Loki series.

At one point in the film, various vehicles driven by henchpeople working for Cassandra Nova made their way to Deadpool and Wolverine to capture them. One of the rides featured a blue Avengers flag vandalized with a black anarchy symbol emblazoned across the heroes' logo. At the time, it seemed to be simply the villains of the Void having fun with whatever piece of Marvel history they could find. However, in August 2025, Ryan Reynolds sent comic book nerds into speculation overdrive when he posted a picture of that same symbol combination... but with a design twist. 

Unlike the previous logo shown, the flag was black, and the anarchy logo red. At the time, it was difficult to figure out what that could possibly mean (and to be fair, it still is). However, we may have a major clue regarding the nature of the symbol. And, as it turns out, it could mean that past Marvel franchises are going to become relevant once again in a major—and very unexpected—way. Scooper Alex Perez from The Cosmic Circus posted a cryptic message on X (formerly Twitter), stating: 

"And as the multiverse draws closer to its end, its fate and all of those who lived in it will rest in the hands of those who started it all."

When a user asked Perez if the event referenced in his tweet would occur in Doomsday or Secret Wars, he replied with the image mentioned above: 

That is the exact same image Reynolds posted earlier in 2025. But what could that possibly mean? Okay, first, let's assume this tease is accurate to future events in the MCU. Having done that, interpreting Perez's cryptic message, it seems he's saying that, as the multiverse begins to collapse, the responsibility of saving it will be in the hands of characters from Marvel franchises that existed before the MCU came into play. 

Some of the heroes that fit that description are Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, Jennifer Garner's Elektra, Wesley Snipes' Blade, Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man, Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider, Eric Bana's Hulk, and the rest of the original X-Men cast (which are confirmed to be in Avengers: Doomsday). If the aforementioned interpretation of Perez's posts is correct, this could be a monumental development for the MCU, as, ultimately, the franchise's own heroes wouldn't be the ones to save the multiverse. Instead, the protagonists of the House of Ideas' previous cinematic endeavors would be the ones to accomplish such a feat. 

Tobey Maguire, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds have been heavily rumored as being important parts of both upcoming Avengers movies (Forbes recently went as far as to state the latter two would indeed be in them). Putting our conspiracy hats on, that could be what Ryan Reynolds was teasing with the Avengers/anarchy flag he posted all those months ago.

Speaking to Collider in September 2025, Reynolds actually explained why he posted the picture, and took the opportunity to tease something bigger on the way with his signature sense of humor: 

"The thing I posted on social, that is actually a variant of the flag that we use in Deadpool & Wolverine. It was my favorite. For some reason, you watch a movie later that has that many alts and all that stuff, and you go, 'Why didn't I choose that one? There were five other great jokes for that.' That's how it works, and that was just a flag. I just came across it, and I was like, 'Oh yeah, I loved that flag. The red and black vibe.' And then, you know, there's always talk. We're figuring out what's next in that world and blah, blah, blah."

Fellow geeks, please remember this is just a rumor. Let's do that together. Nevertheless, I cannot help to feel giddy about the prospect of the heroes of Marvel past stopping Doctor Doom's evil schemes when all else fails. Picture it: Everyone's M.V.P. Tobey Maguire Spider-Man helping pull the Marvel Cinematic Universe from the brink of collapse. It would be a sight to behold.

Having said that, as mentioned, it's still important to keep a cool head about things, instead of building up unreasonable expectations in our minds over a rumor. It's difficult, I know, but we have to do it. For now, we will have to wait less than a year to find out whether or not this purported piece of information actually relates to what's in store for us in the franchise's ambitious two-parter. 

Avengers: Doomsday arrives in theaters on December 18, 2026. Avengers: Secret Wars will then be released on December 17, 2027. 

What do you make of this tease? Would you like to see past Marvel heroes saving the MCU? Drop your thoughts in the comments!

About The Author:
DanielKlissmman
Member Since 8/28/2021
Daniel Klissmman is an entertainment journalist who's written for Movie Pilot, CBR.com, Cinemark and AMC Theatres. He loves superheroes with a passion and really wishes he'll one day get to hang out with Moon Knight.
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Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/22/2025, 8:03 AM
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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 12/22/2025, 8:12 AM
"The Cosmic Circus posted a cryptic message on X"

Why TF every tweet gotta be labelled "cryptic"? If every tweet is cryptic, then no tweet is cryptic lol.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 12/22/2025, 8:12 AM
Source : The Cosmic Circus

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/22/2025, 8:13 AM
Interesting…

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this is true since the Multiverse Saga has been partly a love letter to pre-MCU Marvel on the big screen given that Feige started his career with those films & such so it makes sense that atleast some of the heroes like Tobey’s Spidey and Hugh’s Wolverine would play a big role in saving it all in what is most likely their final time in these roles.

Anyway , looking forward to it!!.
FinnFangFoom
FinnFangFoom - 12/22/2025, 8:23 AM
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bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/22/2025, 8:29 AM
With the power of friendship!
Spike101
Spike101 - 12/22/2025, 8:30 AM
Yet another rumour, I grow weary of so many rumours. What we desperately need is something official released so all the chat can be what it all means. A bit like WandaVision which kept fans guessing for weeks. With the chair reveal they could have had several at the end with no names in them and then invited fans to guess them one at a time. All of that said when I finally signed down in the cinema I really don’t want to have seen half the movie.
captainireland
captainireland - 12/22/2025, 8:35 AM
"And as the multiverse draws closer to its end, its fate and all of those who lived in it will rest in the hands of those who started it all."

Isn't that arguably the MCU characters and not the non-MCU characters, given the multiverse was basically born out of the Avengers' time travel shenanigans in Endgame allowing Loki to go cause chaos at the TVA? From that point of view, every non-MCU movie, whether released before or after the MCU started, is set in a universe that is a direct result of events in the MCU's sacred timeline.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/22/2025, 9:08 AM
@captainireland - I thought that it was stated that the multiverse had already existed before it when HWR remains won the first Multiverse War , he made it all into one Sacred Timeline but due to the events of EG and Loki , it started back up again.

Anyway the ones who started it all could also mean the original MCU heroes like Hulk ,Cap ,Iron Man ,Thor etc.
captainireland
captainireland - 12/22/2025, 1:12 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah,it's a confusing one. Like is the multiverse cyclical in that it was created by the events of Endgame but also existed before it to create the sacred timeline that created it? It's like a perception of time being linear vs time not actually being linear type scenario.
TangerineAlfred
TangerineAlfred - 12/22/2025, 8:54 AM
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Jackraow21
Jackraow21 - 12/22/2025, 8:59 AM
Sounds dope. I wonder what version of Hulk Eric Bama might play?
TheRevelation
TheRevelation - 12/22/2025, 12:06 PM
@Jackraow21 - Man I need Maestro so bad.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/22/2025, 8:59 AM
Desperate for content.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/22/2025, 9:04 AM
The MCU is running on fumes from rumormills and blind fanboy and hater banter (and im guilty of it) just to garner clout.

Nothing is genuinely and officially exciting anymore. I remember vividly how cool that IW sequence from SDCC was from a leaked recording I saw (thanos throwing bits of a moon).

There may be bits and pieces that might be worth the excitement for Doomsday but everything is being sucked out by these endless rumors.

The secrecy is also gone unlike in the past because marvel is so desperate to generate hype nowadays. 1 year away from Doomsday and idiots like these (including CBM writers) will talk about Secret Wars. So pathetic

Feige needs to step down too. We need new life into these characters and stories
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 12/22/2025, 9:53 AM
@vectorsigma - 100%. And the irony here is that the writers on this site need these movies to thrive so people maintain interest enough to come here. But then this site saturates the fandom and spreads what people hate the most, making these movies not nearly anywhere as successful as they once were. This site will greatly contribute to its own undoing in this way. Yeah, the quality of the films took a hit and some messaging ruffled feathers which contributed to the decline as well. But anymore it's the "scoopers" and influencers that have made this genre boring and eventful. At least to me. I'm only here out of habit lol.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/22/2025, 10:55 AM
@TheFinestSmack - i agree as well with the irony. Nothing looks and feels organic with the mcu anymore and this site has devolved into a cesspool of rumors. If I get dome time ill help you into gathering those metrics we have talked about. Something wortwhile visiting here (aside from making blind fanboys cry and block me 😂)
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 12/22/2025, 9:34 AM
The had better not destroy the multiverse. That would mean very single one of those franchises and heroes worlds ends in the worst way possible
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 12/22/2025, 9:37 AM
I keep forgetting to check the name of the contributor before clicking. User Comment Image
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 12/22/2025, 9:44 AM
Sooo either he’s right or he saw the full leaked plot yesterday and fed off it because this lines up perfectly with the Doomsday finale described there.
LeoAtrox1
LeoAtrox1 - 12/22/2025, 9:46 AM
Watch them surprise everyone with Mack and his SHIELD team being the heroes of the multiverse. Gimme some of that Yo-Yo, Mockingbird, and Quake action.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/22/2025, 9:54 AM
@LeoAtrox1 - Feige would sooner include the 1986 version of ‘Howard the Duck’ than ‘Agents of Shield’. LOL

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/22/2025, 9:56 AM
@LeoAtrox1 - don’t you play with me like that!!.
TheRevelation
TheRevelation - 12/22/2025, 12:07 PM
@LeoAtrox1 - If you didn't watch the show...that sounds like something else entirely lol.
gambgel
gambgel - 12/22/2025, 10:19 AM
aside from the fact that I dont trust Alex Perez anymore...

the only characters that started it all are Blade and the original X-Men.

All the rest came later.
Yellow
Yellow - 12/22/2025, 11:02 AM
Ugh. ..no, hard pasa.
Let Maguire out of all this mate, he is such a Nothing Burger
DocSpock
DocSpock - 12/22/2025, 11:39 AM
@Yellow -

Except that his Spider-Man 1&2 are the best Spidey movies ever made and launched the modern age of CBMs.

Yellow
Yellow - 12/22/2025, 12:50 PM
@DocSpock - still a nothing burger actor, put him to sleep already and let the nostalgia bait rest too.
jasonvoorhees
jasonvoorhees - 1/11/2026, 9:04 AM
@Yellow - If most of the current MCU Heroews wouldn#t suck, there would be no need for nostalgia.

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