AVENGERS 4: 15 Dead Characters We Need To See Return In The Movie's "Flashbacks" - SPOILERS

AVENGERS 4: 15 Dead Characters We Need To See Return In The Movie's "Flashbacks" - SPOILERS

Yesterday, we learned that a dead character will return in Avengers 4 via what they describe as a "flashback" and we're now counting down more heroes and villains we hope to see return in the sequel...

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By JoshWilding - Oct 26, 2018 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Avengers 4 is shrouded in secrecy but something that's become clear in recent months is the fact that we're going to be visiting key moments in the Marvel Cinematic Universe's past. Set photos have confirmed that we'll revisit the events of The Avengers, while Frank Grillo has confirmed that Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Civil War villain Crossbones will also return in "flashbacks."

Regardless of whether we're getting flashbacks, returning to the past via B.A.R.F. or even taking a trip through time via the Quantum Realm, it's clear now that some long-dead heroes and villains are going to be making an appearance in the Avengers: Infinity War sequel. 

I'm not talking about those we're expecting to see back either (in other words, characters like Star-Lord and Bucky who died during the "Snappening"). Here, we're delving into the history of the MCU to single out fifteen characters we need to see in whatever these scenes from the past end up being. To take a look, all you guys have to do is click on the "View List" button down below.


Ultron



Fans have theorised for a while now that Ultron may not be as dead as he seemed following the events of Avengers: Age of Ultron and there are a lot of ways the villainous android could return. 

For starters, The Vision's demise may open the door to Ultron somehow resurfacing, while his involvement in the Annihilation comic book event could very well shed some light on how he'll be used in this sequel. In terms of flashbacks and time-travel, though, revisiting the events of the aforementioned movie and his ties to the Mind Stone definitely has some potential. 

After all, it's not outside the realm of possibility that he may have communicated with Thanos somehow as he must have been intelligent enough to realise that the Mind Stone was more than just a battery to power his new body after it initially gave him life.

 

The Ancient One



The Ancient One died in Doctor Strange but with Earth now without a Sorcerer Supreme, what's to say she couldn't find some way to return to the land of the living? After all, if she too looked at possible futures and saw her student's demise, she may have put some safeguards in place to ensure that there would always be a Master of the Mystic Arts. 

Alternatively, a trip back in time could see The Ancient One become a powerful new ally to Earth's Mightiest Heroes long before she met Stephen Strange and this movie may even be able to address why she started syphoning off magic from Dormammu's domain in the first place. 

 

Spider-Man



The loss of Peter Parker hit Iron Man hard during the events of Avengers: Infinity War, so a flashback fleshing out their relationship even more than it has been would be no bad thing. In terms of time-travel, Tony Stark could even come face to face with a much younger Peter, perhaps on the day he received that fateful bite from the radioactive spider, a moment we're all desperate to see. 
 

The Vision



In terms of flashbacks, there aren't really that many stories to tell with The Vision. However, I do believe that he'll be resurrected in Avengers 4, especially after Shuri made a good start on his surgery. 

With the Mind Stone torn from his head, a different power source could be found to resurrect the hero and I wouldn't be remotely surprised to see him return as a greyed out shell of a man (well, android) who no longer has any emotions, a plot point lifted straight from West Coast Avengers.

There's also a chance he'll just be resurrected once Thanos is defeated. It's hard to say for sure!

 

Captain Marvel/Cull Obsidian



While I'm sure Captain Marvel will go some way in teasing Carol Danvers' role in Avengers 4, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't get to see anything of her in the present day in that movie. However, an Avengers: Infinity War Easter Egg pointed to her having a history with Thanos' Black Order when fans spotted what may have been part of her costume around the waist of Cull Obsidian.

If we're going to learn that she's crossed paths with the Mad Titan, then a flashback in this movie to her battle with one of his henchmen would be no bad thing, especially as Earth's Mightiest Heroes travelling back in time and meeting her during the '90s honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you stop and think about it. 

 

Loki



We know that Loki is getting his own series on Disney's streaming service but that could take place at pretty much any point in the Marvel Cinematic Universe's history so it happening should be considered a spoiler. However, set photos have already confirmed that the God of Mischief will be shown in scenes set during the events of The Avengers

He appears as he did back in 2012 so the villain definitely hasn't travelled through time even if Earth's Mightiest Heroes have. However, I would love to get some insight into how Loki's relationship developed with Thanos following the events of Thor when he aligned himself with the Mad Titan.

 

Howard Stark



Assuming B.A.R.F. tech is being used in Avengers 4, it wouldn't be at all surprising to see Howard Stark return, especially as we saw him in it the first time Tony Stark showed his invention off.

Reliable sources have claimed that John Slattery has been spotted on set and my guess is that rather than flashbacks or B.A.R.F., we'll actually see Iron Man and Captain America meeting up with the former's father, thereby giving him the opportunity to learn that Steve Rogers was saved from the ice and that his son - who he viewed as a disappointment - has ended up being a superhero. 

 

Peggy Carter



There's a popular theory doing the rounds that if Captain America does die in Avengers 4, he'll somehow be reunited with Peggy Carter so that they can share the dance they first talked about in Captain America: The First Avenger. Even if he doesn't die, time-travel could end up throwing the hero back to World War II where he might meet with her to ask for her help...and that long overdue dance.
 

Hela



Rumour has it that we'll pay a visit to Hel in Avengers 4 as Thor recruits an army of the dead to help Earth's Mightiest Heroes take down Thanos once and for all. The theory is that Hela will be in charge of Hel once again and her brother will be forced to strike a deal with her in order to save the universe, possibly returning the villain to life in the process. 

That would obviously give the Goddess of Death a chance to align herself with the Mad Titan in a nice parallel to his partnership with the actual embodiment of Death. In terms of flashbacks, I'm not sure how she could fit into proceedings unless Thor goes back in time and somehow saves Asgard before it was destroyed by Surtur. 

 

Heimdall



Poor Heimdall finally got a decent role in Thor: Ragnarok...and was then killed off almost immediately in Avengers: Infinity War! While it's now clear he's got nothing to do with the Soul Stone, I definitely think we'll see something of Asgard's former guardian in Avengers 4, especially as we'll be returning to the events of The Avengers.

After all, Thor used the Tesseract to return home with Loki and Heimdall must have played some sort of role in that so don't be surprised if he shows up to further explain the importance of the Soul Stone. Alternatively, we may finally see that vision the God of Thunder had in Avengers: Age of Ultron come to life when Thor crosses paths with his old friend in the depths of Hel. 

 

Quicksilver



Aaron Taylor-Johnson has denied that he's been asked to appear in Avengers 4 but,c'mon, what was he going to say? 

While the Scarlet Witch may be dead, Pietro's link to the Mind Stone - like his sister, that gave him his powers - is an important one and a plot point which is bound to be touched on here. Whether it's a flashback revealing more about what Baron Von Strucker did to The Twins or Hawkeye simply travels back in time to right a past mistake, I'm convinced that the speedster will return to action.

Earth's Mightiest Heroes are going to need all the help they can get and going back in time to recruit Quicksilver also makes sense, especially as Marvel Studios knows the upcoming Disney/Fox deal gives them free reign to do whatever they please with this character. 

 

Agent Coulson



The death of Agent Coulson is what brought The Avengers together in the first place and while Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has delved into his resurrection, that show is nearly at an end and there's nothing to say that Earth's Mightiest Heroes won't return to that fateful moment to try and rescue their old friend, essentially retconning ABC's TV show and bringing him back into the MCU proper.

Captain Marvel will put the spotlight on a younger version of the character but seeing him back alongside his idol Captain America and old friend Tony Stark would be extremely rewarding for fans.

 

The Warriors Three



The Warriors Three were killed off in short order in Thor: Ragnarok and while I think this is highly unlikely to happen, how cool would it be to see them reunite with the God of Thunder to help him out one last time? Zachary Levi being cast in Shazam! probably means this won't become a reality but even a flashback to the events of Thor and Loki's disappearance could lead to an appearance!
 

Ho Yinsen



If we really are getting flashbacks or even time-travel which essentially takes us through a series of the Marvel Cinematic Universe's best moments, then we really should get to revisit Tony Stark's time in that cave alongside the man who helped him build the Iron Man suit, Ho Yinsen.

After all, that's where this shared world's story began and it would be great seeing Tony having to relive the moment he was at his lowest, especially if it gives him the inspiration to step up and help his fellow heroes put an end to the Mad Titan after his defeat in Avengers: Infinity War.

 

Doctor Strange



A victim of Thanos' snap, there aren't many ways Doctor Strange could factor into a flashback, but it's entirely feasible that as he saw every possible future about what would come next, he knew that all those people would have to die for The Avengers to eventually save the world and bring them back to life. 

Perhaps we'll return to his deal with Dormammu or even the time he spent training under The Ancient One but I do think we could see some sort of alternate version of Strange in this movie, possibly because a past version is plucked out of time if Earth's Mightiest Heroes really do need to collect the Infinity Stones from the past in order to defeat Thanos in the present...

 

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CinemaJackXCI
CinemaJackXCI - 10/26/2018, 8:58 AM
Yinsen would be awesome.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 10/26/2018, 9:05 AM
josh's scoops are better than April O'Neil's :)
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 9:08 AM
We just want Quicksilver, sweet sweet Quicksilver
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 9:25 AM
@OmegaDaGrodd

I would lose my shit if Evan Peters showed up.




Jaspion
Jaspion - 10/26/2018, 10:22 AM
@regularmovieguy - That'd not only be lame but would make zero sense.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 11:01 AM
@Jaspion

He’s the only Quicksilver though?

😉
Jaspion
Jaspion - 10/26/2018, 11:04 AM
@regularmovieguy - How...?

I'd take Aaron Taylor-Johnson's any day.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 11:23 AM
@regularmovieguy -

Simply pause the movie in a moment of conflict and fast forward to the part where the conflict is suddenly resolved and you will have replicated Evan Peters part in a comic book movie
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 11:37 AM
@OmegaDaGrodd

Kind of speaks volumes about the AoU Quicksilver though. Yeah, Evan Peters is overpowered. Definitely not a knack against his performances. I like ATJ, a lot. Dudes a really good actor.

But let’s face it - the twins were boring in AoU. Their arc is pretty lame (Scarlet Witch brainwashing Hulk to destroy shit and kill people). Their Eastern European accents...yikes.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 11:47 AM
@regularmovieguy -

"Kind of speaks volumes about the AoU Quicksilver though."

Evan Peters being an empty character who's only value is as a plot device that immediately got old after the first time doesn't say anything about AoU Quicksilver, especially when unlike Evan Peters, people actually genuinely want AoU's Quicksilver back (not to mention the fact that Wanda went on to become a fan favorite character {which is kinda unremarkable since almost all MCU characters end up being fan favorite character})
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 12:36 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd



Think this might be the only time anyone’s ever argued about this but Peters QS > ATJ QS. From power set to personality, to actual movie. The character was just better. And a lot more fun to watch.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 12:37 PM
Who wants Quicksilver back in the MCU? I’ve never heard anyone say that outside of Starscream (lol) and the MCU subreddit.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 1:37 PM
@regularmovieguy -

"Think this might be the only time anyone’s ever argued about this but Peters QS > ATJ QS"



This is a strangely ignorant or ill informed thing to say, but I'm not surprised. The Quicksilver debate has been going on for awhile, although it's kinda died off now that ATJ's Quicksilver doesn't seem to be coming back and Peter's Quicksilver had such a bad showing in Apocalypse

"From power set to personality, to actual movie. The character was just better."

Putting aside that "actual movie" isn't a character attribute, Evan Peters Quicksilver barely even has a personality, but more importantly doesn't have a personality or power set anything like Quicksilvers. The dude is Kid Flash with silver hair. He's literally a really cool visual effects sequence that gets awkwardly sidelined immediately in 2 separate movies 3 times and got played out immediately after the first time.

I keep having to remind myself when people talk about who's the better Quicksilver a lot of them don't seem to actually know anything about....Quicksilver
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 1:44 PM
@regularmovieguy -

"Who wants Quicksilver back in the MCU? I’ve never heard anyone say that outside of Starscream (lol) and the MCU subreddit."



Yes, aside from MCU fans, no one is asking for Quicksilver back in the MCU.

Simply reading any MCU article talking about Quicksilver - or maybe just polling people on the site - would probably answer the question of how many people want ATJ's QS back in the MCU

I get that it's probably kinda strange to wrap your head around the idea people would want the dead Quicksilver from 2015 back when they don't even care for the Quicksilver that's still alive, but learning what people actually like about the character of Quicksilver will probably clear that up
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 1:52 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd

Any redeemable qualities of Aaron Taylor Johnson’s? He seemed close to his sis, he had a thick accent?

I’m not trying to start shit. Evan Peters is just the more entertaining of the two. His arc in Apocolypse was handled horribly, he’s still a fun character and charismatic as hell (like a lot of MCU characters).

And bro...Quicksilver...Flash...lmao. They’re basically the same. Most of the world doesn’t consume the comics and probably couldn’t tell you the difference between the two. There are a ton of characters who don’t resemble the comic counterparts and are still great. I’m talking about the movies.

“The Quicksilver debate has been going on for a while”



Not sure about that one, boss. There wasn’t much of a debate when these movies came out. I really don’t see this debate lasting years either.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 2:35 PM
@regularmovieguy -

"Any redeemable qualities of Aaron Taylor Johnson’s? He seemed close to his sis, he had a thick accent?"

You mean aside from him being hyperprotective of his sister, literally one of the biggest defining characteristics of his comic book character? Well, he was a major aggressive and cocky asshole, another defining trait. He was also a former villain turned hero, another defining trait. Oh, he was also super fast, a power dynamic not seen in the MCU which opens up all sorts of interesting plot mechanics (kinda like his comic counterpart). It's almost like comic accuracy counts for something

"I’m not trying to start shit. Evan Peters is just the more entertaining of the two. "

Well, you are trying to start shit, which is fine. No need to be a coward about it. But setting that aside, Evan Peters visual effect sequence was the more entertaining of the two, which is why the second that got recycled and they actually tried to turn him into a character no one who liked him in DOFP cared for him anymore, and all the people who like the comic character continued to dislike him because he was nothing like him. Again, he's not a good character, and the movie's aren't hiding that, so I don't quite get the idea of trying to claim the intentionally personality-less character is "entertaining", but do you.

"And bro...Quicksilver...Flash...lmao. They’re basically the same."

They're actually not, and that's a pretty dumb thing you don't really need to say to defend Fox's QS. You should stick to stuff you know and just avoid points you don't have a rebuttal for, because making up facts on topics like this doesn't really fly on a site where reading comics is a part of why the site exists. There is literally no Flash similar in character to Quicksilver, and even their super speeds are dramatically different in nature. Hold the L and don't waste either of our time like this.

"Most of the world doesn’t consume the comics and probably couldn’t tell you the difference between the two."

As stated earlier, we're on a site called "comicbookmovie.com", if you don't know anything about the comics, that's fine, but it's pretty silly to try and even engage on a topic where you're clearly ignorant of even basic details.

"Not sure about that one, boss. There wasn’t much of a debate when these movies came out."

Well, again, I don't know why you keep talking about things you clearly just don't know anything about it. Like, I googled some of this for you but you could've easily done that for yourself, unless you just didn't want to know you were wrong

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/evan-peters-dishes-on-returning-as-quicksilver-in-the-biggest-x-men-movie-apocalypse-a126557

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/poll-avengers-aou-vs-x-men-dofp-which-quicksilver-looks-the-best-a96387

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_age_of_ultron/aaron-taylor-johnson-explains-what-differentiates-aous-quicksilver-from-the-x-mens-a118687

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men/x-men_apocalypse/evan-peters-disappointed-hes-the-only-quicksilver-on-film-a141632

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_age_of_ultron/joss-whedon-age-of-ultron-quicksilver-is-so-different-from-the-flash-and-x-men-dofp-a117466

You obviously weren't on the site at the time either of these movies came out, which is again fine. But as someone who was, I think it's kinda weird how you can be skeptical of what I'm saying when 1) Unlike me you weren't here to know if it was true and 2) you aren't checking yourself. Seems odd to be so smugly ignorant about something so easy to verify

"I really don’t see this debate lasting years either"

Well, as I noted, one of them's dead and no one really cares for the other one, so it's not really something that's going to come up too much, although I'm fairly certain one of the recent comment sections had a random QS debate. Either way, probably best to check in on this stuff first before you decide to talk about it. Just a thought

regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 2:59 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd

Him being hyper-protective of his sister is nice and all. But it didn’t make him memorable.

Evan Peters QS is a bit of cocky asshole. And he pulled it off a lot better, too. And him being a villain turned hero? That’s cool and all but, again, their character arcs in AoU weren’t entirely convincing.

“Let’s set the Hulk off to rage and kill innocents. Wait, you wanna destroy the world? We just wanted some innocent bystanders to die and break the Avengers up but woah buddy.”

I didn’t buy it. Bro, you can try and convince me all you want that ATJ was a better Quicksilver than Evan Peters. But you still haven’t told me anything likable about the MCU’s Quicksilver other than “he’s overprotective of his sister.”

“One of them’s dead and no one really cares about the other one.”

😂😂😂😭

The MCU subreddit keeping hope alive. Gotta love it!
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 3:02 PM
“This QS is hyperprotective of his sister AND he’s a cocky asshole. SEE it’s the comics incarnate.”



OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 3:24 PM
@regularmovieguy -

"Evan Peters QS is a bit of cocky asshole. And he pulled it off a lot better, too"

Evam Peters QS was a detached, uncaring, super calm character....DOFP, not in Apocalypse. I understand the need to act like one of his movies doesn't exist, but it's kinda strange to omit a movie that features the character you're trying to praise. Putting aside that fact, he's pretty much the polar opposite of a cocky asshole in both movies. He's not a douche or angry, he just literally doesn't care because he's so fast nothing matters. If you like his version better than ATJ's that's fine. No one cares. But it's really strange that the version of the character you like is the one you also can't seem to be honest about.

"Bro, you can try and convince me all you want"

LOL dude, you're literally asking me questions about the character and why people like him. I'm not trying to 'convince' you of anything. I don't know what kind of weird social issue causes you to try and have conversations like this, but if you are completely ignorant about Quicksilvers defining traits, I have absolutely no idea why you're typing multiple paragraphs trying to argue with me about the "best" Quicksilver based on nothing other than a cool action sequence in 2014 and a "horrible" character arc in 2016

"But you still haven’t told me anything likable about the MCU’s Quicksilver other than “he’s overprotective of his sister.”"

You never asked me to tell you about anything "likable" about MCU Quicksilver. You asked for "redeeming qualities", which I gave you, one of which you strangely never addressed. I shouldn't have to answer your questions, argue with you and constantly correct you all at the same time. Pull some weight bro
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 3:27 PM
“This QS is hyperprotective of his sister AND he’s a cocky asshole. SEE it’s the comics incarnate.”



This is only made funnier because if you knew anything about Quicksilver you'd know this largely is the core of the character
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/26/2018, 3:42 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd

Here I am talking movies and your telling me what an amazing comic book character he is.

😂😂😂😭

How did he fit into your AOU fanfic? Does it make the ladies wet?
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/26/2018, 3:49 PM
@regularmovieguy -

"Here I am talking movies and your telling me what an amazing comic book character he is.

😂😂😂😭

How did he fit into your AOU fanfic? Does it make the ladies wet?"


Sometimes when you lose an argument and don't have a good rebuttal it's best to just not post rather than tell jokes you learned in middle school
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