EDITORIAL: Which characters should be included in Avengers 2?

EDITORIAL: Which characters should be included in Avengers 2?

With the Avengers just released to amazing numbers at the box office, it's no surprise a sequel is in development. But who should fight long side the Avengers?

Editorial Opinion
By GuardianOfEros - May 21, 2012 05:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

Hey Everyone!

So, I havent posted an article in a very long time. Mostly due to not being on what to say or bring to the table. If any of you remember me, it was for my crusade in defending X-men First Class, which turned out to be a financial and critical success. So, I think a big "Suck it!" is in order.

However, that is certainly old news and I wanted to share my thoughts on who I think should be in the next Avengers Movie. Some of them might surprise you, some others might not. Now, obviously this is completely for fun and no decisions have been made. Hopefully some of them will become a reality.

First off, I want to say that it's known that Marvel/Disney are trying to release 2 - 3 new movies in the next couple of years, my guess is before the release of Avengers 2. So probably around 2014 with Avengers 2 being released in 2015 or 2016. And the reason they want to make these movies before Avengers 2 is so they can launch these characters into that movie. Personally, I feel like the movies in question will be Dr. Strange and/or Ant-Man. Which, if that's the case, it can be easily concluded that the Wasp will be included in the latter. Now, this article will be quite long, so keep that in mind before reading.


If they make Dr. Strange, I think some of the most modern candidates have been Johnny Depp and Patrick Dempsey. Not bad choices given their particular fan-bases (and it will come down to money at the end of the day.) But I don't see either of them being selected. Johnny Depp has several projects going on at once and is already tapped by Disney to star in another installment of the Pirates of the Carribean franchise, which will probably be released not too far off of Avengers 2. Not to mention his cost. He probably isn't any more expensive than Robert Downey Jr., but I don't see Disney pitching another multi-picture deal with Mr. Depp anytime soon. And with Patrick Dempsey, the actor has stated he'd be interested in the role, but his primary issue would more than likely be scheduling conflicts. His hit TV show, Greys Anatomy, is still a rating success and got renewed for a Ninth Season. Dempsey also inked a 2-year deal which would have him on the show as a series regular until the end Season 10 (2013-14 television year) which would make his availability to do a movie like Dr. Strange and be included in Avengers impractical. To be clear, though, I would love to see Patrick Dempsey in the role.

Now, with Dr. Strange, two things can happen. With Disney's acquisition of Marvel, as a marketing technique, I can see them trying to launch Dr. Strange as a younger man, in his twenties. Sort of like a "Sorcerors Apprentice" type movie. A young man who is eager to know power but is reluctant to take responsibility for it. That being said, I have no idea who Disney would choose. It certainly wouldn't be an unknown, but looking at the more youthful actors talent pool that we have...and there isn't much. So, I would be surprised. However, if Disney decides to stay the path and have Dr. Strange a bit older, I think a wonderful choice would be Benedict Cumberbatch, people will recognize him now for his work as the titular character Sherlock Holmes in BBC's Sherlock.



He's a fresh face, he has an international appeal and fan-base and he has experience in playing enigmatic characters. And because of his age, which is mid-thirties, he could sign a multi-picture deal with Disney/Marvel and still look the part throughout. I think he would be an intriguing actor to take up the Sorcerer Supreme.

Next, Ant-Man. There has been heavy debate on the creation of this character since before Avengers came into theaters, with some people wishfully thinking that he would be a part of it in some way. Not the case. I definitely believe Ant-Man will be made in the next couple years. And many people have fan casted Nathan Fillion as the size-shifting hero. I think Nathan Fillion is a wonderful actor and his previous works with Joss Whedon make him a larger front-runner for the role, especially if Joss returns for the sequel. However, I do not the think the role will go to Fillion. Mostly, due to the same aforementioned reason of Patrick Dempsey, his ties to his television show, Castle. It was recently renewed for another season and I do see it lasting for another season beyond that. It is impractical to suggest that he would be able to do a blockbuster like Ant-Man and any other pictures while also being tied to a show such as Castle.


So, that being said, I would like to nominate actor Aaron Eckhart for the role. With his matinee-idol looks and a strong history of straight-laced authority figures with more going on beneath the surface, Eckhart is ideal to play the often mentally fragile Pym.



Now with Ant-Man, it's easy to assume that Wasp will also be featured. And my choice isn't something so new and I know a lot of people will probably facepalm or disagree. My nomination for Janet Van Dyne is none other than Eva Longoria.



Her most notable roles was as Gabrielle Solis in the ratings tycoon Desperate Housewives that just recently ended its eight year run. I will be the first to say that I absolutely hated Desperate Housewives for the longest time. But, I really didn't have a solid reason other than, "It just looked stupid." Well, because of Netflix, I had the luxury of watching the Pilot for free and I absolutely loved it. And I finished the first seven seasons in 5 weeks and caught up with Season 8 to watch the finale live. And over the course of the series, Eva Longoria's character easily became one of my favorites. The depth and the desperation that she brought to her otherwise shallow character was absolutely amazing. Amongst the other three leading females, she certainly held her own presence wise and I think that's what this character needs. Someone who is memorable, especially if she is to be featured against an ensemble cast like in the Avengers or even just as a leading lady across Ant-Man. And with Desperate Housewives ending, scheduling conflicts wouldn't prevent her from being a part of the Marvel Cinematic family.


Now before I go any further, I just want to point out that it's likely that in Avengers 2 another female superhero will be featured. Seeing as how Black Widow is the only one to be kicking any ass (Maria Hill doesn't count). So, I have suggestions for Ms. Marvel, Mockingbird and Scarlet Witch. I see those as the most likely of candidates.

If they make Dr. Strange then it's easy to assume that Magic will be a greater theme in Avengers 2. Which would make a character like Scarlet Witch to be an organic addition. How and why? I couldn't tell you. I'm not pretentious enough to assume a story line, but it would make sense. And especially if they focused on the more Magic part of her, rather than the mutant aspect (which they couldn't anyway due to the X-men film series clause.)



And I think the best choice for Scarlet Witch is actress Eva Green. She not only looks the part, she has a nack for playing complex characters with daddy-issues. And she's also no stranger to kicking some butt in film, either. I think she would round off the cast quite nicely.

Mockingbird is most known, in my opinion, as a love interest for Hawkeye. So I think her inclusion would be dependent on the popularity of Hawkeye beyond the Avengers movie or if the director wants to include a love-triange of sorts which could be done with Hawkeye, Black Widow and Mockingbird. My suggestion for the role is probably surprising. I choose this actress based on her relationship with Joss Whedon (assuming he returns to write/direct) and the roles she's played.



Eliza Dushku. Notable roles include Faith Lehane from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and as Echo from the short-lived Dollhouse, both helmed by Joss Whedon. She has a fan-boy fan-base which would make her a good choice economically. And even though I don't think she's a strong actress, it's safe to assume that if Mockingbird was featured she would have limited/supporting screen time much like Hawkeye did to sort of test drive the characters popularity. And given those parameters, I think she would be a really good choice. And let's be honest, wouldn't it be amazing to see a bitch fight between Mockingbird and Black Widow? ScarJo and Eliza Dushku going at it as scorned love interests. I doubt it would happen like that, but I wanted to firmly explain her appeal. She does have it. She's recognizable and memorable and that's the point to making a strong female lead. Also, based on her relationship with Disney I would also like to give a nod to Keira Knightly as a possible candidate for Mockingbird.

Now for my final suggestion I will be nominating an actress for the role of Ms. Marvel. Her inclusion is all but confirmed in the sequels. With hints dropping like a fly. I would be extremely surprised if she wasn't in the Avengers 2. And to helm such an iconic role takes a lot of guts and talent that I know for a fact Disney/Marvel will not settle for an unknown. I would love to see the role go to someone like Kate Winslet, but I highly doubt she would even consider it.



I would like to nominate Charlize Theron. She has an oscar award on her belt, is internationally recognized, has a moderate box-office success legacy. She isn't someone who is afraid to take on risky roles. The movie Aeon Flux was terrible, but it was a risk to try and turn that into a movie to begin with. And it wasn't her acting that made the movie bad, that script was just awful. She has the looks, the talent, and I'm willing to bet she could hold her own against the other actors fairly easily.



There you have it. Those are my suggestions/ideas for the movies to come if they do. I would have loved to have included Luke Cage or Black Panther into this mixture, but I have no idea who could play those characters. There are a lot of talented African-American actors out there, but none that I think may be bankable. Samuel L. Jackson makes an impressionable Nick Fury. And outside of Denzel Washington (who is entirely too old now) and Will Smith (who probably costs wayyyy too much) I'm really stumped on who could helm those characters. People have suggested actor Wesley Snipes. I say no. My personal opinion is that I couldn't take him seriously as Blade. I don't know if that was because of him or the time the movie was made. So, I'm open to hearing any and all suggestions as to who should play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Thanks for bearing with me and reading through the entire article. I look forward to reading any and all comments below!
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sikwon
sikwon - 5/21/2012, 6:24 PM
i think dr. strange, mrs. marvel and the black panther will be in avengers 2.
thecomicdude23
thecomicdude23 - 5/21/2012, 6:29 PM
My picks are:

-Luke Cage
-Iron Fist
-Ms. Marvel
-Black Panther
-Vision (optional)
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2012, 6:35 PM
it definetly needs more women,any of these.

-ms.marvel
-wasp
-scarlett witch

as for the men,i'd be happy with any of these.

-hank pym (yellow jacket)
-vision
-namor
-quicksilver
-black panther
spideyxmenfan307
spideyxmenfan307 - 5/21/2012, 6:48 PM
My picks for a sequel:

-antman

-wasp

-ms.marvel

-black panther

-spiderman( a guy can dream right?)
BigHec
BigHec - 5/21/2012, 6:48 PM
Giant Man/Ant-Man
Vision
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Quick Silver
Wasp
Scarlet Witch
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/21/2012, 6:49 PM
Why do people tbink Dr strange should be on the team? if anhthing, he should be someone they consult, but a team member? No [frick]ing way.

BigHec
BigHec - 5/21/2012, 6:51 PM
Bad Guys for Avengers 2
Paste Pot Pete
Truner D.Century
Klaw
Dr.Bong
Awesome!!!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/21/2012, 6:52 PM
Also, no to strange being a young kid. Strange was always a bit older, even when he first became the sorceror supreme, he was a grown man. Strange doesnt work as a grown man. Part of what makes him so cool is how he's older, wiser, and more arrogant than everyone else.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/21/2012, 6:53 PM
Strange doesmt work as a child I meam.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2012, 7:03 PM
@ corndogburglar

i think marvel should be trying to expand their universe further.

-dr.strange
-namor
-the incredible hulk 2
-the defenders

-guardians of the galaxy(it may happen)

thanos is on the way,maybe an infinity gauntlet movie with these teams featured all up against thanos,the only problems i see with that is.

1.budget,thats alot of characters & cgi effects needed.

2.movie,is one movie enough with all these characters maybe a infinity gauntlet trilogy is needed.
marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 5/21/2012, 7:26 PM
characters that can be in the avengers 2:
-wasp
-hank pym
-war machine (dno why he wasnt in the first avengers movie)
-vision (if they go the ulron route in avengers 2 which i think they will)

NOTE: if they put these characters in, in my opinion they need to take out hawk-eye and black widow.

SkinnyOne
SkinnyOne - 5/21/2012, 10:20 PM
I would like to see
-Wasp
-Ant-Man
-Black Panther
-Nova
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/22/2012, 3:32 AM
@ marvel72

I totally agree that they should expand the MCU further! I just dont think Strange should be an Avenger is all.

And you're totally right. the only way to do an infinity gauntlet movie would be to inteoduce tons of new cbaracters and teams over the next 5-10 years, then have them all team up to battle thanos and the gauntlet. Ive been saying the same thing evee since we all first saw the infinity gauntlwt on display arlt SDCC 2 years ago. I couldnt agree with you more.
calin88
calin88 - 5/22/2012, 7:07 AM
Like yor article, as a fan(not so mich as a comic reader) I don't know how they expect to pull off movies like Antman(love your choice with Ekchart) or Dr Strange. Comic fans will no doubt see any character possible, but these movies are made for the geberal public, how much money would Dr Strange make? I think Black Panther would work, an origin story for him would no doubt bring people into theatres, but it's hard as it is to make the movie with the 6 Avengers we have so far, 2 or 3 more will mean leaving Shield aside, and with sequel planned for IM, Cap and Thor( even Hulk maybe) = 4 films, you add Panther and yhere you have Phase 2
LMB10
LMB10 - 5/22/2012, 8:05 AM
For the sequel, I would like Ant-Man, Wasp and Ms. Marvel to join the team, and then to have Ultron as the villain, who toward the end of the film will create the Vision who takes down Ultron and joins the team.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 5/22/2012, 8:57 AM
@Calin88 4 years ago only these so called comic book fans could see that the Avengers was possible, guess what they turned out to be right.

And leaving SHIELD out of the sequel makes the most sense since if you've seen the movie the avengers kind of cut there ties with SHIELD.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 5/22/2012, 8:59 AM
I think the best option is to rotate the squad obvious keep the core 3 (or 4 if they can find a plausible reason to bring Banner back in to the fold) the same and shuffle the rest e.g. like the comic book. I highly doubt thats going to happen but what ever, I'm sure IF Whedon comes back then he'll figure it out some how but it definitely needs more female characters, I say add Ms Marvel and Wasp, which means Hank Pym won't be far behind
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 5/22/2012, 11:33 AM
1: No suck it First Class (while it had heart) was a continuity nightmare and rape of the characters
2: I want these guys for Avengers 2
Ant-Man (Hank Pym)-Patrick Wilson (give him giant man powers)
Wasp (Janet Van Dyne)- Zooey Deschanel
Black Panther (T'challa)- Michael Jai White?
Iron Man (Tony Stark)- RDJ
Captain America (Steve Rogers)- Chris Evans
Thor- Chris Hems
Hulk (Bruce Banner)- Mark Ruffalo

potential cameos by War Machine, Hawkeye, BW, and MAYBE Dr. Strange but he should in NO WAY be a part of the team. If they all showed up for the final battle that would work though.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 5/22/2012, 11:34 AM
You could switch Black Panther with Ms.Marvel, the dynamic of more than 1 female on the team would be interesting
dezdigi
dezdigi - 5/22/2012, 11:35 AM
I don't see how they could add too many more to the team without watering down the plot.
Antman and Wasp are the only two additions I can see happening for the sequel.
In the third movie they might do a roster shuffle, like Hellsing says.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 5/22/2012, 11:49 AM
^^ i think they should have BW, and Hawkeye in Cap 2 and leave them out of the bulk of Avengers except the final confrontation. Also SHIELD's role should be diminished and let the team handle things for the most part. Leaving out BW and Hawkeye and making room for Ant-Man and Wasp.
Bumble
Bumble - 5/22/2012, 11:53 AM
first off, cumberbatch as doctor strange would be the bomb!

secondly, most of the people i want to see in the avengers are currently under contract with another studio...wolverine, spider-man mainly.

other than that, i think the pym's would be a nice addition but not in a solo movie. i think you bring them in in a similar role to that of hawkeye or black widow. let hank be used as a special consultant for something (LMD's, etc). i don't think an antman/wasp solo movie would be much of a draw unless it was set up through the avengers.
BooYah
BooYah - 5/22/2012, 1:35 PM
I want Black Panther, Ant- Man, and Wasp in the movie.
boomshuka
boomshuka - 5/22/2012, 4:13 PM
Scarlet Witch please and thank you. Replace her with Black Widow and just get rid of Hawkeye.

I am a Hulk Fan and I want to see more SMASHING! More screen time for the green guy haha.
TheDarkAvengersRises
TheDarkAvengersRises - 5/22/2012, 6:53 PM
Dr. Strange and Ant-Man. That's it!

Dr. Strange would be great going forward into this trilogy. The Avengers need a cosmic member and Strange could use his magical abilities to make Black Widow and Hawkeye more powerful.
marvelguy
marvelguy - 5/22/2012, 8:17 PM
Did everyone forget War Machine? I definitely think that Black Panther will show on his own or in the next flick. Remember the animated Avengers movies?

I have doubts regarding the Wasp. Why have two characters with essentially the same powers. She may show in an Ant-Man movie, but probably not in the next Avengers movie.
BigBreasts247
BigBreasts247 - 5/22/2012, 8:43 PM
My picks are: Ant-Man, Black Panther, Ms. Marvel & Vision.
If these characters show in the Avengers 2 (2015) then, it's going to be awesome! :D
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 5/22/2012, 9:55 PM
Would love to see 3/year from Marvel Studios:

2013 - IM3, Thor 2, Ant-Man (w/ Wasp)

2014 - Cap 2 (w/ Hawkeye, BW & Carol Danvers), IH2, Black Panther

2015 - Avengers 2 (Cap, IM, Spider-Man*, BP, Ant-Man, Wasp & Coulson/Vision vs Ultron), Doctor Strange, SHIELD (Carol D. becomes Ms. Marvel)

2016 - IM4 (quick, before Downey gets too old!), Thor 3, Namor

2017 - Cap 3 (w/ Falcon, Winter Soldier), Defenders (Dr Strange, Hulk, Namor), Guardians of the Galaxy

2018 - Avengers 3 (basically everybody vs Thanos, who has been building as a threat the whole time), Heroes for Hire, Runaways

* I know he's with Sony, but I don't care: make it happen!
95
95 - 5/22/2012, 9:58 PM
Henry Pym & Wasp... and Dr. Strange for some spice.

surtur
surtur - 5/22/2012, 10:15 PM
Add hank pym and wasp. Have them be shield lab technicians at the start of the show. Let them "gain" their powers by the climax of the film and have them join the big fight. If they're going to add more characters like vision and strange, let them be characters the team consults and have them have only a scene or two as it's starting to get crowded already.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 5/22/2012, 10:52 PM
I just want to point out that the character you have as your teaser image is NOT Carol Danvers, but Moonstone dressed in an old Ms Marvel costume for the Dark Avengers (which had fantastic art).

Benedict Cumberbatch is a fantastic actor, and I think just like with the teaser image, you wanted to see him play a Marvel character and thought (based on Holmes) he'd fit the bill as Doctor Strange. Understand, I don't mean to insult you; in fact I'm making these assumptions from my own personal experience and self-insertions.

Benedict Cumberbatch would actually make a PERFECT Vision, and yes, I am kicking the Coulson theories in the face. Along with Mark Strong and Tom Hardy, his character in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy was my favorite.

But I don't think Vision would work without an Antman movie to establish Hank Pym as an expert in robotics and engineering, among his other abilities. Vision would be "introduced" in a cameo comparable to Hawkeye's in Thor.

On that note, I'm trying to wrap my brain around your Hank and Janet ideas, and it's not working, I'm sorry. Eva Longoria doesn't do much more than look hot, and citing Desperate Housewives as an example is a bit desperate, no pun intended, considering all she does is sleep around. This isn't a character that you half-ass on the big screen, and I know she doesn't really have too much of a fanbase (lots of readers downright hated her), but it would be lazy and unprofessional to treat the character disrespectfully simply because you don't like her in the comics. Wasp could be reinvented for the big screen - for all you know you'll end up liking her the best. Natalie Portman would have been my first choice simply because she's small but energetic... but I think a better choice would be Olga Kurylenko for Miss Van Dyne.

Aaron Eckhart is a good actor, and I loved him in Thank You For Smoking, but just because he has a chiseled jaw and nice blonde hair doesn't make him Pym material. I liked him as Dent, disliked him as Two-Face. I couldn't take his meltdown at the very end seriously (script is partly to blame) because he's still portraying the distinctly thoughtful Harvey - no fractured personality. But that's just one role. For Pym, I would like to see someone like Joseph Gordon Levitt (yep, another Batman movie actor) but NOT because of whatever cop role he is playing in The Dark Knight Rises. Depending on who you ask, the movie Brick is either ingenious or overrated - I say it is both. What it is known for, however, is re-introducing JGL after 3rd Rock From the Sun by casting him in the role of a mature and determined high-schooler who plays detective in that neo-noir. He can play smart and unassuming.
stackhouse101
stackhouse101 - 5/22/2012, 11:41 PM
After Andrew's comments I believe that there will be three new additions to the team.
1.Dr. Strange- its Kevin Feige favorite character
2. Black Panther-is on the map in Iron man 2 and in the avengers there is a map over Africa on the Helicarrier.
3. Namor- could be incorporated b/c of Iron man2 but doesnt have to be.

My Two Stretches will be
a.Ms Marvel Joss loves the ladies
b. If sony doesnt like making a billion dollars than spiderman wont be in the avengers 2 but we could pray.

marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/23/2012, 1:08 AM
cant hold a movie this epic to 3,roll out 4 or more marvel.

2 antman and wasp-black panther

3 vision-scarlet witch

4 captain marvel-warlock

i wonder who the bad guy could be for that 4th one hummm.
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/23/2012, 1:27 AM
how cool would it had been if,

marvel shot a prince namor movie without letting it out.

easy to write ,him and his people have been down there the whole time with lots better tech i might add, and are tired of all the pollution so its war,maybe even make us the bad guys on our on planet huh.anyways if marvel had done something along these lines and had released it last wk with nobody knowing and just say they called it battleship or something like that, how cool would that have been.

whata dream.seeing cbm fans running out of the movie yelling to others whats up.
Facade
Facade - 5/23/2012, 3:31 AM
Vision and Scarlet Witch.
Devilhunter318
Devilhunter318 - 5/23/2012, 6:09 PM
If 'The Other' in the Avengers truly is Chthon, I think Dr. Strange is a must (along with the Eye of Agamotto in Thor)

Also I think that if they do have Miss Marvel, they would probably just call her Captain Marvel (Its a tad more empowering and shes going through that name-change pretty soon in the comics)
Bread
Bread - 5/25/2012, 7:39 PM
I think the panther is gonna be in it. idk who else though
demyxIX
demyxIX - 6/23/2012, 10:01 PM
fyi, it's not hard to figure out that Luke Cage would be played by none other than, Dwayne Johnson. As for Black Panther, as much as I want him to be part of the team, I think he's a little to dark and gloomy to be part of the team. They could easily do an epic solo movie, if he was to become an avenger, he would keep to himself and only be in the fight scenes. I think a blonde Angelina Jolie, could play an excellent Mockingbird. However, as much as I want to see a chick fight between her and black widow, I fear that the love triangle thing would damage the male fanbase, which is basically 4/5 of the ticket sales. Now let's move to the topic of Dr. Strange. I fear that he may be slightly too powerful. So if he WAS to join the team, they would have to severely limit his powers from the comics. And I think Johnny Depp would play the role exceptionally well. Money would be the key issue there. I like the idea of Ant man and Wasp, but have nothing to say that wasn't already said in previous comments or the articl
demyxIX
demyxIX - 6/23/2012, 10:07 PM
and most importantly, absolutely NO VISION!!!!!! He is WAY too powerful, he would absolutely screw up the plot so bad that you couldn't see straight, and he is my opinion just plain stupid.
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