MARVEL COMICS NYCC Panel Turns Into Chaos As Retailers Contest The Publisher's Methods

MARVEL COMICS NYCC Panel Turns Into Chaos As Retailers Contest The Publisher's Methods

Marvel Comics’ editors won’t be able to consider the annual meeting with retailers a success, as the conversation about diversity, replacing existing heroes and variant covers has turned really ugly.

By BaltazarOS - Oct 06, 2017 02:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Newsarama
It's a well-known fact that Marvel Comics' current policy has been controversial among the fans for a long time. Changing ages, races and genders of fan-favorite heroes (like Thor Odinson or Iron Man), instead of creating new characters was a problem for this vocal group of people.

Marvel Legacy, the publisher's newest initiative, was supposed to correct the course, as Tony Stark and Wolverine came back to life, and Steve Rogers returned to his old self. Everything seemed to go smoothly, until the closed door New York Comic Con Q&A session with the retailers yesterday. 

According to Newsarama, nothing suggested that the discussion would end this way. Everything changed after a complaint from a unidentified retailer about the poor sells of Marvel's lenticular variants. The meeting's hosts, editors Tom Brevoort (Civil War, New Avengers) and Nick Lowe (1602, Runaways) tried to explain the situation, but the retailer didn't listen and expressed his detest for the publisher's methods, especially replacing or altering Marvel's recognizable characters. 

The agitated retailer also declared his problems with characters like Iron Heart – "specifically expressing his distaste for Iceman “kissing other men,” and Thor “becoming a woman". From this point, the Q&A changed into a total chaos. The retailers gathered in the room immediately joined the unhappy colleague, competing with each other. The original seller added that Marvel should focus on "creating new characters and not messing with the old guys. The old guys are solid", he concluded. 

One of the hosts, Nick Lowe stated that changing the nature of the characters' identities was always popular at Marvel and gave examples of James "Rhodey" Rhodes and Frog Thor. Another retailer said that "Marvel has never replaced them all at once before”. He also referred to a group of The Marvel Cinematic Universe fans who came to his store to buy some comics with the Avengers, but they decided to leave, because "Thor is a woman and Captain America is a black man".

Lowe tried to explain his publisher's decision one more time, because in his opinion, Marvel was always about creating heroes, villains and stories that reflect "the world outside your window". He only managed to state that Marvel won't stop creating characters that fans of all genders and ethnicities can connect to, before closing the panel at the planned time. The retailers were far from laying down their weapons and gathered around Marvel Senior Vice President of Marketing David Gabriel in the hall outside the panel to continue the discussion with him. 

It's a complicated situation without an easy solution. What's important is to not only express our feelings, but to do that in a civilized way - and that's what has been missing during the meeting. Marvel have their rights and so do retailers, but there's one thing that's definitely not right - behaving like villains, not heroes. 

Be sure to leave your thoughtful comments on this important topic down below. 
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Ragnarocknroll
Ragnarocknroll - 10/6/2017, 3:04 PM
Pretty messed up situation tbh. I mean, I actually see where the retailers are coming from. These days, I can't find a comic with the OG Avengers altogether to gift my cousins who're big fans of the MCU.
Luminus
Luminus - 10/6/2017, 8:34 PM
@MonsieurCringe - Marvel is collapsing spectacularly, apparently:


HulksPenis
HulksPenis - 10/7/2017, 8:28 PM
@MonsieurCringe - MAKE MARVEL GREAT AGAIN
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/6/2017, 3:10 PM
this whole deal is weird. the movies are a door for new comic readers, yet you alienate them by changing the originals. granted, comics and movies are two different divisions, but there should be more communication between them.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/6/2017, 3:12 PM
@Spidey91 - thou the first dude sounds like a conservative prick.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 10/6/2017, 4:39 PM
@Spidey91 - What Marvel comics should do is instead of making so many of these "Legacy" character they should have created original character with there own identities instead of trying to gain awareness by living off another characters super hero name. The amount of these Legacy characters is getting ridiculous. Also they need to fire a lot of their staff as they seem more concerned with pushing social justice, feminism, and LGBQT crap instead of writing good stories.

Sure some comics in the Marvel library are doing well like Iron Fist, Thanos, and a few others but the majority is just awful and retailers know it which is why they're losing money.
AbidNaga
AbidNaga - 10/6/2017, 3:14 PM
gman3025
gman3025 - 10/6/2017, 3:27 PM
The retailers are also upset about having to buy more than usually numbers of issues to get lenticular covers.

http://www.comicsbeat.com/tilting-at-windmills-262-why-marvels-lenticular-numbers-dont-add-up-for-my-stores/

In my opinion, the revolut is more about this. However, the diversity comments are uncalled for and I am glad

marvel cut the panel once it de-volved into name calling.


Again, my opinion, Marvel has not had a good comic book product in years. DC has better artists, and DC

recongized "The New 52" was a bust, they did Rebirth to correct it.

Legacy is off to bad start and is only pointing out the problems and not fixing them.




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