DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN's Vincent D’Onofrio Reveals When Marvel Decided To Make The Netflix Series Canon

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN's Vincent D’Onofrio Reveals When Marvel Decided To Make The Netflix Series Canon

Vincent D’Onofrio says the powers at Marvel collectively came together and decided to make the Netflix Marvel television shows apart of the MCU at this pivotal moment.

By MarkJulian - Jan 17, 2024 08:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil: Rebirth
Source: THR

In a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Vincent D’Onofrio is revealing how the Marvel executives came together during the reshoots for Daredevil: Born Again and decided to make Netflix's Daredevil canon to the MCU.

The Echo television series certainly took some giant first steps in implying that the events of Netflix's Daredevil or something very similar occurred in the MCU but it seems that it wasn't until the reshoot for Born Again that the MCU brass decided to make it official.

"During our restart of all the creative on Daredevil: Born Again, all the creatives got together and said, ‘Look, this is how we’ve got to do it now. So we are for sure only speaking about it in terms of being directly connected to the original Daredevil, and that’s a great thing. It brings in a lot of cool stories and all the collateral story that happened in those original three seasons.”

It's interesting that D'Onofrio only makes mention of Netflix's Daredevil and not the other Defenders series - Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist. While the MCU has repeatedly made references to Netflix's Daredevil, the waters get a little more murky when concerning the other shows.

However, in later seasons, the other shows became integral to Netflix and it's hard to see how the MCU could bring back one and not the rest.

Also, all the Defenders series have been moved to the MCU timeline on Disney+ which is a move that some MCU fans are taking as an indication that those shows are now canon. 

We'll caution that until more overt references are made to something other than Daredevil, fans shouldn't necessarily expect Mike Colter's Luke Cage or Krysten Ritter's Jessica Jones to start kicking in doors and tossing around bad guys. And it's hard to imagine Marvel bringing back Finn Jones' Danny Rand, in any capacity.

At this juncture, it seems the MCU is only interested in bringing back the more popular elements of the Netflix series, i.e. Jon Bernthal's Punisher, Elden Henson' Foggy and Deborah Ann Woll's Karen while leaving the more polarizing elements behind.

As D'Onofrio's interview continued, he revealed his excitement about returning to Kingpin's darker nature as opposed to the more eccentric depiction of the character in Hawkeye.

"Sydney Freeland, who’s the executive producer and one of the directors of Echo, wanted me to do Echo. In our first conversation, she explained to me the story of Echo and that Maya Lopez’s journey was going to lead to some dark stuff and a bit of violence. So I already knew that my character works best in that Daredevil kind of tone, and when Sydney told me about the special way she wanted to tell Maya Lopez’s story, I was like, “Great. I love it because I really do think that Kingpin works best in a darker tone.”

Prior to Echo's release, D'Onofrio stated that he felt Born Again was a brand new show, not connected to the Netflix iteration but we now see how quickly situations can change. 

Currently, Born Again is without an exact release date but it's said to be part of Phase Five of the MCU, which ends on February 14, 2025, with Captain America: Brave New World. Phase Six kicks off on May 2, 2025, with Fantastic Four.

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Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/17/2024, 8:22 AM
Glad they made Daredevil cannon. Only two episodes in to echo, but so far it's one of the best Disney+ marvel shows, imo
thedrudo
thedrudo - 1/17/2024, 8:44 AM
@Izaizaiza - It's not too bad but just feels rushed by the end. Definitely not a top tier Disney+ show. Somewhere low tier but I still liked it mostly.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/17/2024, 10:45 AM
@thedrudo - Fair enough. I'll let you know what I think after I finish it
Radders
Radders - 1/17/2024, 8:27 AM
They clearly forgot that the battle of New York was mentioned in Daredevil
Origame
Origame - 1/17/2024, 8:45 AM
@Radders - I don't think they forgot. They just didn't care. Egos and all.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/17/2024, 11:46 AM
@Radders - And now they've clearly forgotten that the Sokovia Accords were not.

And that Obama was president when it should've been that guy in Iron Man 3.

And that they race-swapped Vanessa.
TheyDont
TheyDont - 1/17/2024, 8:27 AM
I need Bullseye back. He was incredible.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/17/2024, 8:38 AM
Still feel there is a disconnect between the Kingpin from the Netflix show with the Kingpin from the Disney shows, but it's nice they're atleast not ignoring the Daredevil show.

Also, if they made the choice to incorporate Daredevil into the canon when they were doing the Born Again revamp, I kinda hope they also made the choice to bring back (a large portion of) the writing team of that show and make Born Again a direct follow-up to S3.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 1/17/2024, 8:41 AM
When did the MCU make reference to The Daredevil series
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 1/17/2024, 8:51 AM
@HammerLegFoot - In Echo
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/17/2024, 8:55 AM
@HammerLegFoot - when Kingpin showed up in Hawkeye, when DD showed up in She Hulk… if you need plot points that direct to it, I’d say in Echo they referenced the hammer Fisk used to kill his father. That’s probably the closest to an actual thing that happened in the DD Netflix series that was brought over to Echo Disney plus series.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 1/17/2024, 9:36 AM
@CerealKiller1 - I was thinking maybe he was talking about something before Echo
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 1/17/2024, 9:37 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Yea when KingPin and DD showed up in Hawkeye and She-Hulk those were like *at the time* soft reboots of the character. I thought they were referring to something before those shows and something more directly tied to Season 1-3 of netflix DD
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 1/17/2024, 10:25 AM
@HammerLegFoot - As far as I’m aware there was no ‘direct’ tie before Echo, but I could be mistaken
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/17/2024, 8:43 AM
Bring him back
CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 1/17/2024, 8:51 AM
But surely by the very nature of Daredevil now being canon, the others have to be? I mean he washes up in season 3 after a fighting a [frick]ing dragon in the Defenders.

Jeri Hogarth appears in season 3, ergo that world of Jessica Jones exists. I know they've recast Vanessa Fisk - but now it has to be THAT Vanessa Fisk in terms of background/history. Same as if they ever brought in Bullseye, they could recast - but it has to be THAT Bullseye.

I'd like an explanation of Fisks power up too given they've now retconned the legitimacy of canon. I don't know, I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm treating the Netflix shows as a close, but not quite, reality on the timeline.

I just can't see the Netflix Matt wearing mustard yellow and going out in broad daylight in costume.
CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 1/17/2024, 8:51 AM
@CLTMAN29 - It also by default means Fanny Bland is the MCU canon Iron Fist.
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 1/17/2024, 8:53 AM
@CLTMAN29 - The Matt that we are left with at the end of Season 3 would absolutely be ready for the red and yellow
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 1/17/2024, 9:15 AM
@CLTMAN29 - Like the previous comment said, Post S3 Matt would most defnitley be ready for the black and yellow, especially since he’s in a better place mentally. Now in Born Again he’s probably going to be stressed the hell out again because of Fisk being mayor and all.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 1/17/2024, 8:51 AM
Unpopular Opinion: Finn Jones aside, they should still have an Iron Fist. Preferably Danny, I know they won’t, they’ll want an Asian and all, gotta be politically correct and all. But I want a hero’s for hire, and Danny has an interesting backstory that’s already been laid.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/17/2024, 8:56 AM
@MuadDib - I think they should recast but keep Iron Fist.. especially if the defenders are going to be a thing.
JDL
JDL - 1/17/2024, 1:23 PM
@MuadDib - I can't see a Heroes for Hire without a full MCU reboot and that won't happen for a while. The audience might put up with a non Finn Jones IF but not a recast of LC. As always YMMV.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 1/17/2024, 4:30 PM
@JDL - I get where your coming from, and DD being cannon really just complicates things, but I feel like the vast general audience never watched the Netflix shows, and although hardcore may have, variants have been introduced. Idk, keep LC the same, or make us wait another 5 years for the reboot before we get a hero’s for hire… seems like lose lose
JDL
JDL - 1/18/2024, 12:53 PM
@MuadDib - The audience for this show won't be any larger than the Netflix one and it will seriously overlap with it. Frankly I suspect it will be somewhat smaller in it's number of viewers since it is no longer new content and being on D+ won't help in that regard. Now if this were a movie you would have an arguable point, but it isn't and probably never will be.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/17/2024, 8:53 AM
it's a shame disney Marvel keep p155ing on his character
Origame
Origame - 1/17/2024, 9:08 AM
@harryba11zack - ikr? Something people aren't mentioning is this series makes kingpin an idiot in season 3. A huge plot point in season 3 is based around how lucky he was to bump into Poindexter because he's someone skilled enough to be his enforcer and do his dirty work while he's confined. But if he just has this ninja of an adopted daughter out there, why not use her? Honestly, he mightve won if he didn't have to rely on someone as unstable as Poindexter who daredevil was able to manipulate into going after fisk.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 1/17/2024, 9:01 AM
I liked Danny as Iron Fist (referring to the comments) Scott Buck was just an asshole, but he was great in LC season 2 and even season 2 of Iron Fist was an improvement.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 1/17/2024, 9:02 AM
@JustAChillDude - or should I say Finn, not Danny. lol
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/17/2024, 9:46 AM
Fire whoever wanted to decanonise those seasons 🤣
JDL
JDL - 1/17/2024, 1:24 PM
@Nightwing1015 - ot really. It made sense when they were going to do something new with different actors and which would not be constrained by the Netflix shows. Those desires however seem to have dissipated.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/17/2024, 9:00 PM
@JDL - new actors would have been dumb as well. Ur not gonna find a better DD/Kingpin than these guys
JDL
JDL - 1/17/2024, 11:40 PM
@Nightwing1015 - Agree 100%. In general the Netflix actors were great, some of the Netflix plots (other than DD) and writing, not so great. But not wanting to be constrained by choices you didn't make and may not have agreed with is understandable.

FWIW I 'think' the reason they are giving in on this is the realization that a reboot will happen long before the audience will buy new actors in those roles. YMMV.
JDL
JDL - 1/18/2024, 12:56 PM
If an Iron Fist is blipped I would think since that is functionally the same as death the Iron Fist status would revert. So blip Finn and Jessica and problem solved.

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