2013 CBM FightClub MONDAY SUPERBATTLE CCCLVI (356)

1. I didn't vote-I don't like Blob for starters, but I'm also considering the boycott of non-comic characters...

2. I voted for Doc Manhattan-does anyone know if magic affects Doc M? Anyway, I think Manhattan is just too much for Strange to handle...Strange is powerful, but it's not like he's god...Manhattan is.

3. I voted for Thor-Back to our little Thor debate we had a few days ago, as I said people who can defeat Thor are very hard to come by, and I just don't see WW being one of those characters...he definitely has her beat as far as skill and experience, also people tend to class her physical strength as in the same league as Superman, but it's not...I'd actually put her in the same group as maybe Thing? But still Thor's range of abilities is just too wide for her to handle...

I still say Hulk in the big fight, i think Flash might be able to stalemate him but other than that Im pretty sure he could take those guys...


As always I comment on previous fights: I totally agree with Blob beating Batman and WW beating GR, but Fate beating Strange? Hm...I'm not sure on that one.

Is Juggernaut in these battles? I haven't seen him pop up yet, after all he was in that x-men film...he should be a big heavy hitter in here...he's such an underrated character I think, the same with Iceman...I haven't seen him in a battle yet either.

Dr.Manhattan vs Dr.Strange.Dr.Manhattan wins.While it's not clear whether magic can effect Dr.Manhattan,it's is clear that his powers does work on humans.

Thor vs Wonder Woman.Both are evenly matched warriors in skill and possibly even strength.Thor's lighting might not work due to Wonder Woman's braclets being made from Zeus's shield Aegis.So the deciding factor in this macth up is whether Thor will strike first with a hurricane or will Wonder Woman be fast enough to wrap him up in her her indestructible lasso which might incapacitate him.

In all hell breaks loose it's between Wonder Woman,Thor,Surfer,Isis,or Hulk.

Blob

2nd fight- It's Manhattan's weak mind that gives Strange the advantage. Strange being a surgeon has to be confidant in his abilities and to have complete focus on a task. For those who would argue that Dr. Manhattan exists on a "quantum level" I would argue that since Dr. Strange can project Astrally, telepathically, and travel through different dimensions, he is on that same level. If you go from the stance that science is just explained magic, then that just further gives more credence to my argument. Dr. Strange is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel and one of the few heroes who could fight and defeat Dr. Manhattan. His skill set gives him similar if not greater powers than Manhattan. If you see that Manhattan loses to Ozymandias because he is distracted, and becomes disillusioned with his purpose. Though he "see's all time" he lacks the power and will to do anything to actually change anything. Strange's mind does not suffer this frailty. Strange wins.

3rd fight. Thor vs Wonder woman Great match, Their equipment is comparable, as is their skill set. This comes down to strength and speed. I think that Thor has this. While if you fought this 100 times it would be close every time the probabilities I feel are in Thor's favor.

@jojo -- an interesting argument, but while Strange can indeed astrally project, that's his consciousness leaving his body, while his body is left sitting there defenseless.

Now, we know Manhattan's consciousness can exist even after his physical body has been destroyed (hence why we know he exists on a quanutm level -- a level to which the normal rules of physics do not apply). But if Strange's body were destroyed while he was astrally projecting, would his consciousness continue to survive without his physical shell to anchor it? I'm not sure it would.

And since Manhattan can literally be in two places at once (as he was shown capable of doing in the comic), even if Strange's astral form were a threat, Manhattan could create a duplicate of himself to deal with Strang'es astrol form, then another duplicate to destroy the body.

This is actually a pretty interesting fight to discuss, I think. There's also an argument that could be made that Manattan could be immune to Strange's mystic powers because, unlike Manhattan, who can actually create energy, Strange's mystic arts are based on the notion of "borrowing" energies; any power he summons is being taken from somewhere else. He can't just create magical energy from nothing. But since he's only borrowing from a source of energy which already exists in another dimension, and if Manhattan exists in multiple dimensions and realties at once and is a mater of all matter of energy...

Man, I love discussions like this! They're far more interesting to me than "He'll win because he's Batman" lol