Every Shocking MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN v SUPERMAN, And JUSTICE LEAGUE Reveal From Zack Snyder On Vero

Every Shocking MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN v SUPERMAN, And JUSTICE LEAGUE Reveal From Zack Snyder On Vero

In recent months, Zack Snyder has been spilling some huge secrets about his three DC Comics movies and we've now rounded up some of the biggest in a bid to shed further light on the filmmaker's Snyder Cut.

By JoshWilding - Aug 23, 2018 04:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Ever since Zack Snyder was fired/walked away from Justice League, fans have been driving themselves crazy by trying to figure out what his plans for the DC Extended Universe were before Warner Bros. and Joss Whedon stepped in and scrapped his vision. Thankfully, the filmmaker has shed some light on what he had planned by talking to fans on social media platform Vero (an alternative to Instagram). 

In recent months, he's discussed Man of Steel Easter Eggs, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice's "Knightmare" and Doomsday sequences, and some of what he had in mind for Justice League and beyond. Now, we've rounded up all those reveals (some of which have been covered here on the site but many which haven't) to bring you a definitive guide about what the filmmaker was working on.

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Justice League Was Supposed To Feature The Anti-Life Equation



WetaFX recently revealed that the massive battle they worked on for that flashback scene in Justice League was for the anti-life equation and Snyder has since hinted that Darkseid's control over that would have been what led to the seemingly evil version of Superman we saw in Batman v Superman's "Knightmare" sequence. Clearly, the filmmaker was not planning on shying away from the comic books!
 

Lex Luthor Murdered His Father



If you thought that Batman and Superman had problems, then those simply don't compare to Lex Luthor's daddy issues! The villain mentions his father in Batman v Superman but Snyder later revealed that he murdered Lionel Luthor years before we met him in the DCEU in order to take charge of LexCorp. That's not too different to what we saw in Smallville but this establishes Lex as truly insane.
 

The Real Doomsday Is Still Out There Somewhere



To say fans were disappointed with the Doomsday we got in Batman v Superman would be an understatement, especially as he didn't really resemble his comic book counterpart. However, Snyder has since said that he believes the true version of the villain is still out there somewhere, something which makes sense as the one who killed Superman was an "abomination" created by Lex Luthor. 
 

Robin's Motorbike



Some eagle-eyed fans noticed that there was a rusted over motorbike in Batman's garage and theories immediately started doing the rounds that it could belong to Robin. Well, when Snyder was asked directly if that was the case, he confirmed that the bike was indeed the youngster's once upon a time and that proves the Caped Crusader really hasn't moved on from the tragic death of his sidekick.
 

He Had A Secret Voice Cameo In Batman V Superman



When a fan pointed out that one of the henchmen in Batman v Superman's "Knightmare" scenes sounds an awful lot like Snyder, and the filmmaker has since pointed out that it was indeed his voice dubbed over the actor playing him. Presumably, this was either because he wasn't happy with their performance or the director simply wanted to throw in a secret cameo appearance of some sort!
 

That Russian Family Was News To Snyder



Justice League storyboard artist Jay Olivia has confirmed that the Russian family was added as a result of reshoots and when Snyder - who hasn't seen the movie - was asked about them, he had literally no idea that Joss Whedon had added them and the rest of the civilians saved by the League. Apparently, the original idea was for the town to be abandoned to avoid any Man of Steel-style fan backlash. 
 

Carrie Kelly Was Going To Suit Up As Robin



It's not clear when this would have happened but Snyder has confirmed that the plan was for Carrie Kelly to become the new Robin. She would have presumably joined the Dark Knight in that post-apocalyptic future, something it would have been a lot of fun to see. As of right now, it seems highly unlikely we'll get to see this female version of Batman's sidekick unless Matt Reeves has plans for her.
 

Some Big Hints About Justice League 2 Were Teased In Batman V Superman



In a very cryptic Vero post, Snyder has confirmed that the shot of three crosses in the background of the scene featuring Batman and Wonder Woman standing over a downed Superman in Batman v Superman was a reference to a scene he was planning to film for Justice League 2. Unfortunately, he hasn't elaborated on that but could it be he was planning to kill the three heroes and show their graves?
 

Faora Lives



In Man of Steel, Faora and her minions were sent back to the Phantom Zone. However, due to the rather vague explanation we got regarding that mysterious location in the movie, we don't know if that means they're all dead, comatose, or trapped in some sort of alternate reality. However, something that was confirmed by Sndyer is that Faora is still alive and plotting her revenge against Superman.
 

He Wanted To Make A Self-Contained Series Of Films



When Man of Steel was released, many studios still hadn't started obsessing about creating a shared universe so it should come as no surprise to learn that rather than attempting to launch the "DCEU," Snyder was actually hoping to create a self-contained series of movies which would have had a beginning, middle, and end. Presumably, Justice League - Part 2 would have been the conclusion. 
 

The Mother Boxes Nearly Appeared In World War II



Snyder has revealed that he would have explored the history of the Mother Boxes in Justice League and the director has even shared some mockups of scenes which would have taken place during World War II. Leaked footage from the movie has even shown Cyborg telling the team about that and it appears as if there would have even been some scenes set in Nazi Germany. Sadly, those all ended up being cut.
 

That Open Pod Wasn't Supergirl's



When Snyder was asked if he had any plans for Supergirl in the DCEU, he confirmed that the open pod in that Kryptonian ship wasn't actually hers (despite a tie-in comic book released around the same time as Man of Steel claiming it was). It very much sounds like the director was planning to reveal who did escape but it's impossible to guess who that might have been and where we could have seen them.
 

Martha Kent And Lois Lane Had A Bigger Role In Justice League



We only see Martha Kent and Lois Lane in a single scene in Justice League when they meet at The Daily Planet. However, Snyder has since confirmed that we were supposed to see them share a conversation in Kent Farm too, an indication that Joss Whedon added that shot showing that it had been sold off during the opening credits. Chances are this extra scene was scrapped due to time constraints. 
 

Injustice Was Very Much An Influence For Snyder



While you might think that Knightmare sequence was "just a dream," it turns out that Snyder was planning on telling a story which would have got us to that point, with Superman turning "evil" and the Justice League having to come together in a post-apocalyptic landscape to bring the Man of Steel down. Presumably, Justice League was originally going to set the stage for that in a significant way.
 

Henry Cavill Wore Christopher Reeve's Superman Suit



It's hard to think of anyone who would be a better Superman than Henry Cavill right now but before his costume was created, he donned the suit worn by Christopher Reeve in Superman: The Movie. While you might think that would look pretty ridiculous, it actually sold the studio on the British actor taking on a role in Man of Steel and helped Snyder establish a tone for the 2013 DC Comics adaptation. 
 

Batman v Superman's Dead Robin Is Dick Grayson



In a shocking and unexpected twist, Snyder revealed that the defaced Robin costume we see in Batman v Superman actually belonged to Dick Grayson, not Jason Todd. That's bound to only fuel theories that The Joker we see in the DCEU was originally intended to be the former Robin, especially as there's precedent for that happening in the comics. Suicide Squad may have debunked that theory, though.
 

The Flash Was Supposed To Get A New Suit



Suicide Squad made it clear that Barry Allen had created his own superhero suit to fight criminals in but why was he still wearing that in Justice League after meeting billionaire Bruce Wayne? Well, it turns out that Snyder was indeed planning on giving the Scarlet Speedster a new look and he would have donned a suit enhanced by Wayne tech (likely the one we saw in that quite confusing time-travel sequence).
 

Mercy Graves May Have Survived That Bombing...Wait, What?



Proving that some of the questions Snyder receives on Vero are nothing short of ridiculous, one asked the filmmaker if it's possible Mercy Graves (Lex Luthor's loyal assistant) survived the bomb blast in Batman v Superman. His response? "You never know." While she may have found a way to sneak out, I highly doubt it and can't imagine the director actually had anything further planned for the villain. 
 

No, General Swanwick Isn't Martian Manhunter In Disguise



One popular fan theory is that General Swanwick could be Martian Manhunter in disguise, keeping an eye on Superman and working in the government the same way the character does in The CW's Supergirl TV series. While Snyder has said that everyone involved with the movie loves the theory, he didn't outright confirm that was the case and that probably means he had no plans for the character.
 

The Cosmic Treadmill



As great as it would have been to see Snyder's vision for this series of films to play out, it sounds like things would have got really confusing as Snyder explained that The Flash used the Cosmic Treadmill in the future Batcave to communicate with Bruce in the past but was indeed too soon. Apparently, the point of that was to indicate that while Superman was a threat, something much darker was at play.

What do you think about these Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Justice League reveals from Zack Snyder? Do you wish he'd been able to let his vision for the DCEU play out?

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Unites
Unites - 8/23/2018, 4:11 AM
Have I read this before?
JohnnyAssCheeks
JohnnyAssCheeks - 8/23/2018, 12:20 PM
@Unites - This is why I HATE the paparazzi! But I love the description this guy puts on this video. The world we live in is so sick
nikgrid
nikgrid - 8/23/2018, 10:36 PM
@JohnnyAssCheeks - Damn poor Ben.
fadersdream
fadersdream - 8/24/2018, 6:48 AM
@Unites -
Do you read a lot of Fan Fiction?

Because it sounds like Fan Fiction.


If some guy walked into my office and told me that stuff I would fire him.
lawndart
lawndart - 8/25/2018, 9:31 AM
@JohnnyAssCheeks - This is why paparazi are one step lower than lawyers and politicians. Of course, actors aren't far behind either.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 8/23/2018, 4:15 AM
"Snyder was actually hoping to create a self-contained series of movies which would have had a beginning, middle, and end."

This explains why the DCEU is such a shitshow. The studio were clearly pushing for a new, ongoing cinematic universe while Snyder wanted to do something more like the Dark Knight Trilogy. The two should have sorted out their creative differences sooner. Because we didn't get either.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 8/23/2018, 6:33 AM
@Nightwing1015 - It's Snyder's grim ideas and stilted world view that made these movies stink. What he has also proven is that given a roadmap, like 300 or Watchmen, he can do a good job. Given any creative control over story, plot etc he is just not good at it.
JonC
JonC - 8/23/2018, 8:37 AM
@Nightwing1015 - "We only see Martha Kent and Lois Lane in a single scene in Justice League when they meet at The Daily Planet."

...wasn't Martha and Lois also at the farm after Superman was 'reborn'? am i crazy or maybe i saw the snyder cut and no one else did...
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 8/23/2018, 4:18 AM
Justice League was the Anti-Life Equation.
johnnymarr
johnnymarr - 8/23/2018, 4:36 AM
Stop feeding the paranoid delusions of Snyder's fans.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/23/2018, 4:38 AM
"Every Shocking MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN v SUPERMAN, And JUSTICE LEAGUE Reveal From Zack Snyder On Vero"

KWilly
KWilly - 8/23/2018, 4:51 AM
@BlackBeltJones - Heard he's going into rehab. Yeaaah, he's not coming back as Batman. Hope for the best, but it's obvious.

Michael Fassbender as TDK anyone?
Pantherpool
Pantherpool - 8/23/2018, 5:04 AM
@KWilly - He would be great, but I would suggest Matt Bomer.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/23/2018, 5:14 AM
@KWilly - I saw a pic of him recently...he looks bad. Back to rehab. Hope he gets help.
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 8/23/2018, 4:40 AM
Slow news day ah, Josh?
Pantherpool
Pantherpool - 8/23/2018, 4:41 AM
Jheez Josh, get some rest.

Comicbookart
Comicbookart - 8/23/2018, 4:45 AM
This is why I don't like Zack Snyder at all. The man refuses to admit he's made mistakes and instead just makes up more bullshit and even outright lies. The pod was definitely Supergirl's. Goyer wrote that tie in comic, so he is lying.

His only original film to this day by the way, Sucker Punch is unsurprisingly his worst film. The guy is a terrible director and has no good ideas.

SteelGunZ
SteelGunZ - 8/23/2018, 4:56 AM
@Comicbookart - Agreed!
Toecutter
Toecutter - 8/23/2018, 5:03 AM
@Comicbookart - Nah, dude. BvS and JL are worse than Sucker Punch even though that movie also sucks.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 8/23/2018, 6:36 AM
@Comicbookart - Sucker Punch is almost "The Room" bad. Creepy, hard to follow and nobody wins in the end. Who wants that. The fact that WB put all their eggs in the Snyder basket after watching that is sad.
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 8/23/2018, 12:29 PM
@Comicbookart - When people are saying that he made Superman into a nihilistic emo mass murdering sociopath, and Batman into the Punisher, and that Sucker Punch is a million dollar rape fantasy, when none of that is true, how can he apologize for something he didn't do?

Aside from initially killing off all of Batman's supporting characters except Alfred before changing his mind, hiring Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, and Doomsday's design, the biggest mistake he made was to tell a story with limited dialogue and expect more than half of all audiences to follow it. Sure he could admit those were mistakes he made, but how can he admit to them when everyone is more focused on things that they think he did, but really didn't, and demand he admit to things he never did?
Comicbookart
Comicbookart - 8/23/2018, 2:55 PM
@SisterSunday52 - Jesus Christ, just stop. Batman is actually an idiotic psychopath in BvS. He's worse than the Punisher. The rest of your comment is just more of this blatant denial. Stop being a Snyder apologist. The guy is terrible.
SisterSunday52
SisterSunday52 - 8/23/2018, 3:29 PM
@Comicbookart - I'm not in denial. I have come to my conclusions based on what I have seen in the films, and what I have read from supporters and how they stand up against arguments from detractors, and the only substantial argument made by detractors is that his films can be hard to follow, Jesse Eisenberg is not good as Lex Luthor, Batman's supporting cast except Alfred being dead is not a good idea, and that some of the things in his films are scientifically inaccurate. That's it.

The summations of Superman being selfish, hating helping people, having no regard for human life, and all the arguments about Batman, Wonder Woman, etc. are based on misinterpretation and are not mistakes he made, because they're not things he actually did.
Comicbookart
Comicbookart - 8/23/2018, 4:09 PM
@SisterSunday52 - No you are in denial. Just like "the supporters". There are a slew of things detractors have said based on what happens in the films that are denied or downplayed by Snyder apologists. Batman is a psycho and a dumb one in BvS. Oh the guy who just saved humanity from a genocidal maniac. Yeah I should kill that guy because lord knows there will never be another threat like Zod that no one will be prepared for. That's just one of the many idiotic stuff in BvS. Also, Wonder Woman is useless and a movie prop in BvS. Superman is a mopey piece of cardboard.

Snyder admits none of this because he's an egotistical hack. And you fanboys are so blind because it's Superman and Batman. Even hardcore DC fans in this very comments section don't like Snyder. Stop being in denial and stop being an apologist. These films and Snyder are terrible. Nobody is misinterpreting anything. BvS isn't hard to follow. It's one of the dumbest films of all time. These are things Snyder did, because he hates comic books and hates superheroes.
noahthegrand
noahthegrand - 8/23/2018, 5:45 PM
@SisterSunday52 - what are your thoughts on Sucker Punch?
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