ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Will Further Address Dick Grayson/Robin's Mysterious Fate

ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Will Further Address Dick Grayson/Robin's Mysterious Fate

Zack Snyder has confirmed that in his version of Justice League, the filmmaker will further address what led to Dick Grayson's Robin costume being put on display in the Batcave with that graffiti on it...

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By JoshWilding - Jun 16, 2020 04:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Bruce Wayne was shown in the Batcave alongside the battered remains of Robin's costume. Defaced by The Joker, it was clearly meant to indicate that in the DC Extended Universe, the Boy Wonder was murdered by the Clown Prince of Crime.

Previously, director Zack Snyder has confirmed that the DCEU's Robin is Dick Grayson, and when a fan on Vero asked if he planned to delve further into Robin's death in Justice League, he responded with the affirmative. Once again teasing the release of Zack Sndyer's Justice League on HBO Max next year, the filmmaker said we'll get, "a hint in JL."

Even if it's just a throwaway mention that The Joker did indeed kill Batman's former sidekick, this is something comic book fans will appreciate. The fact that Batman v Superman didn't show much more than what was in the trailers was frustrating enough, and the hope was always that Ben Affleck's The Batman would have further explored what became of Robin. 

It remains to be seen how Zack Snyder's Justice League will address Dick's fate, but it's unlikely that we'll get confirmation of those fan theories that Jared Leto's Joker is, in fact, the former Robin! 

What are your thoughts on this latest Justice League tease from Snyder?

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BuzzKillington
BuzzKillington - 6/16/2020, 4:51 AM

AC1
AC1 - 6/16/2020, 4:52 AM
I like most of the creative decisions Zack has made in the DCEU, but I really don't like the fact that in his mind Dick Grayson was the version of Robin the Joker killed - should be Jason Todd like the comics.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 6/16/2020, 6:24 AM
@AC1 - All we want is this.....



…Ya know, now that I think about it, he should have left it up to us.

Snyder: So we are thinking about going down the Death of Robin road....
We'll leave it to a vote!
Who should we kill off:

Dick Grayson or Jason Todd?

People voting just to kill off Todd again.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 6/16/2020, 8:06 AM
@AC1 - Completely agree.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/16/2020, 4:54 AM
Never understood the vitrol around the idea of a dead Dick Grayson. I get the anger if the original plan was to have 20 plus cinematic universe like the MCU but it was meant to be a very finite story. Having a dead Grayson or one that never appeared like the Nolan trilogy results in the same thing.... No Dick Grayson.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 6/16/2020, 5:23 AM
@Highflyer - At the time they were introducing Batman (and making the decision to have Robin be dead), it was absolutely the plan to have the DCEU have an MCU-esque long-running multi-franchise shared universe. They even announced the slate of movies (from Batmans and Flashes and Cyborgs and Green Lanterns) that would each potentially get sequels and trilogies and spin-offs.

To suggest otherwise is complete revisionism, with motivations I can only guess at...
Origame
Origame - 6/16/2020, 5:36 AM
@Highflyer - it wasnt meant to be a finite story. In fact they were already setting up their endgame event. This was definitely planned to be an mcu level franchise.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2020, 5:40 AM
@Spock0Clock - Unfortunately it looks like they're still sticking with Snyder's scraps, and Batman's the only one who's escaping that shadow due to behind the scenes business as opposed to WB thinking it's a good idea to start fresh.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 6/16/2020, 5:52 AM
@tmp3 - Shazam and whatever is happening with Black Adam could go either way at this stage, but it does feel like the pendulum is swinging back. But if you don't like what WB is doing with DC movies, wait six months and it will be totally different.
tmp3
tmp3 - 6/16/2020, 5:54 AM
@Spock0Clock - Shazam!'s in it's own little pocket. Schrödinger's Cinematic Universe movie.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/16/2020, 5:54 AM
@Spock0Clock - When I say finite, I mean like the core "shared" story. I mean, it would be weird to have Batman die and have like around 12 films left. I now there were going to be solo films for the other characters.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/16/2020, 5:55 AM
@Origame - While I'm sure it was meant to have MCU level epic stakes at the end, I don't know about the amount of films.
Origame
Origame - 6/16/2020, 6:06 AM
@Highflyer - well i really dont know what to tell you. There were several franchise announced for this universe, with the logical assumption being that those would have sequels planned. Not to mention that the whole reason you'd want a cinematic universe is to sell a whole bunch of movies. Its really just a fact at this point.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/16/2020, 6:28 AM
@Origame - that’s another reason why this franchise is shit, imo. You wanted to do long ass story like marvel but hired a guy who gives you Batman that’s about to retire, kills Superman off rip and ran through some of the biggest stories in 1 movie
Origame
Origame - 6/16/2020, 6:35 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - ...i never argued against that. Just the idea that this wasnt planned for mcu levels of movies.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 6/16/2020, 6:40 AM
@Highflyer - I mean, it would be weird to have Batman die and have like around 12 films left.

Especially since he did that with Superman already.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/16/2020, 6:42 AM
@Origame - I'm not saying WB wouldn't want that. Of course they'd want that. MCU made big money. But I feel like there was a difference between what WB and the guy they got to kind of lead their universe wanted. Which is weird since you'd think they make sure they were on the same page.
AC1
AC1 - 6/16/2020, 6:46 AM
@Highflyer - Snyder was working on a finite story told across MoS, BvS, and the Justice League movies, however DC's intention was to expand the universe beyond that with spin-offs revolving around other characters, such as Wonder Woman, Shazam and Aquaman (which we've already seen) and many more.

So killing off Dick Grayson robs that universe of Nightwing and Jason Todd as Red Hood by merging that crucial narrative point with the wrong character.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/16/2020, 6:46 AM
@Origame - I was agreeing just adding on
Origame
Origame - 6/16/2020, 6:56 AM
@Highflyer - its not what they want. Its what was planned.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 6/16/2020, 7:22 AM
@Reeds2Much - The return of superman is probably the most expected thing in comic book history. Batman... less so. When characters like Iron Man or if cap died, I would be more open to the possibility of them not coming back anytime soon.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 6/16/2020, 7:25 AM
@AC1 - There's still Tim Drake.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/16/2020, 5:03 AM
This movie really is gonna fit 20 movies worth of story into 1? At this rate I'm really hoping they're going for the episodic format though, since I don't think I will be able to sit through if it is told as one long story with a thousand subplots
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 6/16/2020, 5:29 AM
@MalseMarcel - One of the more infuriating parts of this whole exercise is that I'm sure Snyder will lard the thing down with hints and teases to try to make the rest of the phantom franchise seem as appealing as possible (maybe trying to jump start a revival).

If the Snyder Cut did end up being a full omnibus of catharsis that laid out every half-baked plot thread so that people could at least conceive of what they were aiming at, then I'd be fine with it. Get it all there. But I think Snyder loves a pointless mystery box almost as much as Abrams does, so I suspect the result is going to tend toward the cryptic.
ElJefe
ElJefe - 6/16/2020, 5:40 AM
@Spock0Clock - What’s the alternative? I mean, He can’t set-up the next Wonder Woman or The Batman. He could figure out how to end it like, well, that was fun everybody let’s do it again sometime kinda way. We know the movie definitely ends with a fully-formed Justice League.

If I was him, and given this rare opportunity by my fans and HBO Max to put my movie out there, I would probably tease a “what might have been” at the end of it all. Don’t we all want the lover walking out the door to have second thoughts? Or even better, see us later and think, “Damn, I shoulda stuck with them...”
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 6/16/2020, 5:50 AM
@ElJefe - "Don’t we all want the lover walking out the door to have second thoughts?"

Not an abusive one.
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