STAR WARS EPISODE IX Director J.J. Abrams Attempts To Explain THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's Ending

STAR WARS EPISODE IX Director J.J. Abrams Attempts To Explain THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's Ending

The Cloverfield Paradox wasn't met with a particularly positive response from fans or critics and its ties to the previous movies were confusing at best. J.J. Abrams tries (and fails) to clear things up.

By JoshWilding - Feb 27, 2018 01:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi
Source: The Empire Film Podcast (via IGN)
The Cloverfield Paradox introduced a lot of weird concepts, including alternate dimensions, time-travel, and arms that walk around the place by themselves. However, what wasn't particularly clear was how this movie ties into the previous two and fans were left to fill the gaps by assuming that the monsters in Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane were just different realities infected by the Cloverfield Paradox.

In a new interview, producer J.J. Abrams and director Julius Onah confirmed that the monster at the end of The Cloverfield Paradox is, in fact, the same as the one featured in the first movie. That's an interesting reveal but their explanation for the latest instalment's ending is super confusing.

"Now that we’ve had these multiple timelines have been opened and things are happening dimensionally,
there’s many different ways for these things to play out," Onah said in regards to where things go next for Cloverfield. "So there was a real fine connection to make with things dropping into the ocean that you see in the movie when they first realize they’ve landed in this other dimension. There’s still more possibilities that will come with more strands of the story."
 
Abrams also commented on the potential alternate dimensions have for the franchise, adding: "On the one hand you can say ‘well then anything anywhere could be a Cloverfield movie,’ but the intention has never been to take a movie and then slap Cloverfield on it. The idea was to say Cloverfield is a kind of umbrella, you know, under which all of sorts of genres and thrill rides can take place."

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ChangAlang
ChangAlang - 2/27/2018, 1:57 AM
Just don’t let it be the final of Lost...please. That show had such a great concept to begin with and then completely lost it way.
jj2112
jj2112 - 2/27/2018, 5:25 AM
@ChangAlang - Just like Alias did before.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 1:58 AM
".J. Abrams and director Julius Onah confirmed that the monster at the end of The Cloverfield Paradox is, in fact, the same as the one featured in the first movie."



What a shitty movie, lame attempt to string things togethor, and a waste of a great concept.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/27/2018, 2:00 AM
@InfinityCipher -
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:01 AM
@ToeKnee - Its another dimension

kylo0607
kylo0607 - 2/27/2018, 2:02 AM
@InfinityCipher - "togethor"

CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:04 AM
@kylo0607 - Im sorry

CLTMAN29
CLTMAN29 - 2/27/2018, 4:34 AM
@InfinityCipher - I think it's slightly misquoted. It's clearly the same BREED of Monster, the Paradox one was slightly different shape and obviously a LOT bigger. They did say the first Cloverfield monster was a baby, way back when it was released. I'm just assuming it's a breed of monster that leaked through to several parallel realities from it's own.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 2/27/2018, 6:13 AM
@InfinityCipher - Really! I like the idea when Cloverfield first came out that it was all related to some deep under sea plant or animal they were mining for the Slurpie's. Now it's just retarded and as not the do with that stuff.
TheBeard
TheBeard - 2/27/2018, 7:24 AM
@InfinityCipher - Damn i miss Futurama!
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/27/2018, 1:58 AM
I completely understand.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/27/2018, 1:59 AM
the intention has never been to take a movie and then slap Cloverfield on it.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/27/2018, 6:22 AM
@ToeKnee -
Pretty much this.

- 10 Cloverfield Lane was originally 'The Cellar' by Josh Campbell and Matt Stuecken
- Cloverfield Paradox was originally 'God Particle' by Julius Onah

It's just a hack director trying desperately to sell average or terrible movies that the company he is working with has acquired using a marketing technique. Slap the 'Cloverfield' name on it and release it with little advertising to ensure the public dont realize how bad it is.

'The Cellar' lucked out because it was an average movie to begin with, but 'God Particle' was a mess to begin with so now people have realized what he is doing and hopefully the next film will flop.
Nebula
Nebula - 2/27/2018, 6:32 AM
@Scarilian - Yeah, I know. I just more succinctly summed that up.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/27/2018, 6:53 AM
@ToeKnee -
Yeah, was just agreeing with you and expanding on how they are manipulating people to ensure they can recoup money on average/terrible movies they acquire. Was not explaining for your sake, just to summarize what they are doing.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:00 AM
Overlord will be good though.
dracula
dracula - 2/27/2018, 2:19 AM
@InfinityCipher - hopefully
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 2/27/2018, 2:01 AM
If it's the same monster, why did it look so enormously big? I guess it grew....
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:02 AM
@kylo0607 - Another problem with this, when the monster grew in cloverfield it had a different body each time, now it just looks the same.
CopperCrow
CopperCrow - 2/27/2018, 2:03 AM
shoulda just kept it a kaiju genre series.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:04 AM
@CopperCrow - Uh no...considering ten cloverfield lane was better than cloverfield.
CopperCrow
CopperCrow - 2/27/2018, 3:06 AM
@InfinityCipher - that could've been called anything else.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 3:14 AM
@CopperCrow - Maybe, but it was still damn good. And it got extra funding and marketing, so its not a bad thing at all.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 2:05 AM
Why were monsters even coming through in the first place?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/27/2018, 3:00 AM
@InfinityCipher - Because in cloverfield paradox they ripped a hole in space-time. That allowed monsters to be deposited across all dimensions and in all points of time.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 3:14 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Thats how, not why. I understand the idea, but there was no reason for them to come across. Prehaps they will explain it someday.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/27/2018, 3:28 AM
@InfinityCipher - I get what you're saying but, if Paradox showed us anything its that nothing had any choice about anything.

The girl didn't choose to appear in the wall.

The gyro didn't choose to appear inside the guy's body.

The worms didn't choose to be teleported into the guy's body.

I'm pretty sure the monsters just appeared in that reality. They didn't have some master plan and find a portal and decide to invade. They just kind of got dumped there, probably just as unwittingly as anything else that happened in Paradox.

Same with the aliens in 10 Clover Lane. They probably got deposited close to Earth, found a planet they wanted (Earth), and invaded.

I don't think there's much mystery to be had.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 3:33 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I relize this isnt about choice and it doesent apply to actual dimensional law.

But...There was no real hint to where they came from.

The ship flickered between two universe, one where the ship was destroyed and one where it wasnt.

So why were they involved? why did machine pick them up for some reason.

Where did they come from? for instance, is your theory actually correct?

So i dont actually think these are explanations or at least good ones, i feel they need another movie, prehaps a direct sequel to filter it.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/27/2018, 6:08 AM
@InfinityCipher - Well we do agree on that, it isn't explained well.

It was basically explained away as "reality is broken so literally anything is fair game now".

I think that is one of the reasons so many people dislike it. They do all kinds of crazy shit thay doesn't make sense and the only explanation is that reality is broken and no longer works the way it used to.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 6:10 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Indeed. Like i said, i hope the idea gets another chance someday.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 2/27/2018, 6:48 AM
@InfinityCipher - I don't remember it being a case of "coming through", rather a merging of realities. Like taking a sheet of paper, representing our reality, and another sheet, representing giant monster reality and placing them on top of each other.

It's not so much a portal, but rather rewriting each reality, as one.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 2/27/2018, 7:09 AM
@JoeInTheBox - Thats a good thought, although overlapping eachover implies one is on top. Some things arent meant to mix, and would result in the end of both universes as more than just certain things are trancending. Two realities rarely mix, as they made of different stuff inhearantly. But these films dont abide by such logic, so it makes a certain amount of sense.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 2/27/2018, 12:56 PM
@InfinityCipher - Yeah, I think the reason for the "unscientific" explanation for everything was basically so that they could literally do anything they wanted with as little tethers to rules as possible.

I mean, I get it, but then it becomes "well technically any movie could be a Cloverfield now."
SupermansTrunks
SupermansTrunks - 2/27/2018, 2:15 AM
I dunno but having bad robot essentially take over production to slap the cloverfield name on it kinda contradicts what theyre saying, and what theyre saying is bullshit
dracula
dracula - 2/27/2018, 2:18 AM
They should have just gone with the original script, and not force the connections to the first movie. All they had to do was change a few names of things, and im sure the original script would have been fine, and been better. Cloverfield could have been our generations Twilight Zone
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