STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS' Mystery-Baddie Supreme Leader Snoke Is [Spoiler]

STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS' Mystery-Baddie Supreme Leader Snoke Is [Spoiler]

Andy Serkis reveals new details on Star Wars: The Force Awakens mystery baddie, Supreme Leader Snoke. As previously reported, Serkis reaffirms that his character is all-CGI. However, Serkis also reveals that Snoke is [Mild Spoiler]. Read on for further details.

By MarkJulian - Nov 17, 2015 11:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire
Star Wars: The Force Awakens continues to peel back the curtain, ever so slightly, as we near the film's December 18th release date.  Up next, is actor Andy Serkis, who discusses his character, Supreme Leader Snoke.  Apparently, Serkis only had scenes with General Hux (Domhnall Gleeson ) and Kylo Ren (Adam Driver). Oh, and Snoke is big - really, really big.   Said Serkis,  "It was quite an unusual situation.  I worked specifically with Domhnall Gleeson and with Adam Driver. My first day was basically standing on a 25-foot podium doing Lord Snoke without the faintest idea what he looked like... or in fact who he was! I was very high up, totally on my own, away from everybody else, but acting with them."  To further empahize the size and presence of Snoke, Serkis' voice actually boomed through speakers as he read his lines on set.  "We used sort of a ‘Kongolizer’ method of having sound come out of speakers to give a sense of scale and distance for the character. So it was very challenging and scary, in fact probably one of my most scary film experiences I’ve ever had."  But even though he's huge, Snoke apparently is a little worse for wear.  "He is severely damaged. Although he's a powerful leader, he comes across as vulnerable. Very scarred and disfigured."

In summary, Snoke is the leader (or a leader) of The First Order,  has a booming voice and is huge. At the same time, something happened to Snoke in the past which severely injured and disfigured him. Powerful, disfigured leader of the Empire? It almost sounds as if Smoke was modeled after Emperor Palpatine.  Whether Snoke is an actual Force user is unconfirmed but it seemly likely.  It will be interesting to see how he connects to the previous trilogies as it's been previously confirmed that Snoke has been around for centuries.
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LifeDayFan
LifeDayFan - 11/17/2015, 11:22 AM
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JSamueliaml8
JSamueliaml8 - 11/17/2015, 11:22 AM
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DaLordzPrince
DaLordzPrince - 11/17/2015, 11:22 AM
Definitely sounds like Darth Plagueis, but purely speculating. A lot of the details line up with what happens in the novel by James Luceno.
LifeDayFan
LifeDayFan - 11/17/2015, 11:23 AM
This sounds so Star Warsy too, i love it
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 11/17/2015, 11:23 AM
So, he's playing Jabba the Hut?
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 11/17/2015, 11:26 AM
LewisD
LewisD - 11/17/2015, 11:26 AM
1. Title of article is misleading.
2. News of this Empire magazine article is old.

This is an opinion piece, not fact.
Starfox
Starfox - 11/17/2015, 11:31 AM
I think Snoke will be the character everyone was laughing about but end up loving when they see the film.
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 11/17/2015, 11:38 AM
I wasn't certain before, but judging from this, he's 1000% Plagueis. Great tie-in to the original trilogy. Can't wait to see what he looks like. 25 feet tall? Yeesh.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/17/2015, 11:41 AM
@BestAtWhatIDo Didn't Palpatine kill Plagueis??? Or you think Plagueis used his power to resurrect himself?
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 11/17/2015, 11:44 AM
Damaged and scarred Sith Lord. So original.
TheBeard
TheBeard - 11/17/2015, 11:47 AM
25 feet tall?
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 11/17/2015, 11:59 AM
I think the writer may be misinterpreting Serkis's comments. The scene he described may just be Snoke on a podium that is 25 ft. high above the other characters and not representing his height.
Glasspac
Glasspac - 11/17/2015, 12:06 PM
This article is on the equivalent of spam... He's the leader, whoa, stop the presses this guy is holding a year old scoop. Cmon.. boring morning for news or what?
Humperdink
Humperdink - 11/17/2015, 12:07 PM
Powerful, disfigured leader of the Empire?
It almost sounds as if Smoke was modeled after Emperor Palpatine.


Palpatine wasn't disfigured, that's his natural form.
He used that as an excuse to finally drop the charade.

Aside from his 'disfigurement' being weirdly symmetrical, if you think about it, it doesn't even make sense that suddenly his own dark energies which he channels could disfigure him. He was the source and he used the opportunity to make Anakin think he was dying. It's evident when he starts smiling after pretending to be 'weak'.

The dark side slowly changes your physical appearance too. Overtime you become more twisted and demonic looking. That coupled with his long long life makes me believe this is just his 'final form' so to speak.

No way a master level Sith Lord would look like he did in his 'Chancellor' form.

Keep in mind too: Luke was exposed to much more force lightning and he wasn't disfigured.
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 11/17/2015, 12:08 PM
@Dotanuki Could be, but Serkis told EW that part of why Snoke had to be animated was that he was very tall. He may not be 25-feet tall (which is a little ridiculous), but he'll probably be at least ~8-10 feet.

@ComicsBornAndBred Well, he said he killed him, but maybe that's what the disfigurement's from?

@YafiszKhan Kasdan wasn't the only writer on the film. It's also likely that the Plagueis connection isn't revealed in this film - after all, the Emperor wasn't even in the first Star Wars film. It may be something they build toward over the trilogy.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 11/17/2015, 12:17 PM
@BestAtWhatIDo

Hm, I thought it had more to do with his facial features and bone structure. Anyway, it's very exciting that we are a month out from the movie with so much still hidden. They've done a terrific job keeping everything under wraps.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 11/17/2015, 12:22 PM
"My first day was basically standing on a 25-foot podium doing Lord Snoke without the faintest idea what he looked like... or in fact who he was!"

This seems EXTREMELY odd & confusing, if not a little concerning.

From a voice acting, mo-cap acting perspective, doesn't it significantly benefit & improve an actor's performance being able to get into character?!? That's the some what concerning part to me. I mean don't most voice & mo-cap actors know what their character looks like & know about them? That helps them "get into character" so they better understand or at least have an idea how their character might sound, speak, how they might make/use their facial expressions, how they might move/use different parts of their face, etc., right??

Serkis is the expert at mo-cap, so I'm surprised & confused as to why they didn't consult with him about the best practices/approaches to do mo-cap. Also, wonder why Serkis didn't speak up at the time & explain that for him to do the best possible portrayal of this character it would benefit his performance/portrayal if he knew what the character looked like & who the character is.

It just doesn't make sense & seems like quite a confusing situation. Obviously, I hope it works out for the best, but his comments make me a little concerned, despite liking & looking forward to the film because of everything else I've seen/heard.
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 11/17/2015, 12:34 PM
@Dotanuki I agree that they've done a great job of steadily releasing material without filling in a lot of question marks (hardly any General Hux, no Luke, no Snoke, etc). As for Serkis, yes, he definitely mentioned the "extreme" facial structure, but he also said: “The scale of him, for instance, is one reason. He is large. He appears tall."
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/12/star-wars-andy-serkis-supreme-leader-snoke
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 11/17/2015, 12:36 PM
@imkennypowers I agree it kind of flies in the face of JJ's repeated assurance that they had plenty of prep time for the film. But, then again, CGI is tough since all you have is concept art (which Serkis had seen), and that doesn't always do a great job resembling the final product.

On the plus side, apparently Serkis worked very closely with JJ to develop the final character, and I'd imagine much of his dialogue was redone in ADR. Just listen to the difference between the voiceover in the first teaser and the voice in the 10-second one released later.
hommytoffman
hommytoffman - 11/17/2015, 12:52 PM
I've got it guys! Snoke is the Rancor from Jaba's place in ROTJ. His disfigurement is from where Luke dropped the door on him. Next mystery please! #spoileralert #longcon #whatatwist
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/17/2015, 12:54 PM
I knew it. Snoke is Skywalker.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/17/2015, 12:57 PM
I mean Kong. Snoke is Kong's great great great (etc.) granddaddy.

And Ventress and Dameron get together and birth the great great (etc.) granddaddy of En Sabah Nur.

Everything is starting to make sense now.
darklordzor
darklordzor - 11/17/2015, 12:58 PM
"Whether Snoke is an actual Force user is unconfirmed but it seemly likely."

Ummm, JJ actually confirmed this in August with their Empire Magazine cover: http://www.cinelinx.com/movie-news/item/8185-kylo-s-no-sith-and-other-the-force-awakens-details-revealed.html
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 11/17/2015, 12:59 PM
Snoke is the Sarlac Pit!!! Walking around as if it were a man!
End Credits: Boba Fett bursts out of his guts, "I'm back, baby!"
Blistertrailer
Blistertrailer - 11/17/2015, 1:02 PM
Snoke is the rancor from Jedi all grown up.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 11/17/2015, 1:04 PM
@BestAtWhatIDo - "I agree it kind of flies in the face of JJ's repeated assurance that they had plenty of prep time for the film. But, then again, CGI is tough since all you have is concept art (which Serkis had seen), and that doesn't always do a great job resembling the final product.

On the plus side, apparently Serkis worked very closely with JJ to develop the final character, and I'd imagine much of his dialogue was redone in ADR. Just listen to the difference between the voiceover in the first teaser and the voice in the 10-second one released later."

Great points!

It definitely alleviates a little of my concern knowing Serkis was very involved throughout the process.
IQ129
IQ129 - 11/17/2015, 1:10 PM
I think Supreme Leader Snoke might be a Gorax. They're a species that lives on Endor (so he would be well aware of what happened in the original trilogy), they stand anywhere from 6-30 meters tall, and have very pronounced features. The scarring and disfigurement could be damage from the debris of the destroyed Death Star. Just a theory but it makes sense why the character is so tall and why they couldn't display him using prosthetics.
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