SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumored To Be Closing In On A Director...But Will The Venom Symbiote Make An Appearance?

SPIDER-MAN 4 Rumored To Be Closing In On A Director...But Will The Venom Symbiote Make An Appearance?

We have an update on Marvel Studios' hunt for a Spider-Man 4 director, not to mention the role the Venom Symbiote will play in the long-awaited Spider-Man: No Way Home follow-up. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Jun 24, 2024 04:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Venom: Let There Be Carnage's post-credits scene promised us a clash between Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock and Tom Holland's Peter Parker, only for that to come to nothing when Spider-Man: No Way Home rolled around.

In that movie's stinger, Eddie and Venom - who never left Mexico - were sent back to their reality, but only after leaving a piece of the Symbiote behind. 

Venom: The Last Dance's trailer seemed to suggest the moment is being retconned, though we know many of you argued that the scene in question likely takes place back on Eddie's Earth (with that piece of the Symbiote playing a key role elsewhere in the threequel). 

As for what all this may mean for Spider-Man 4, scooper Daniel Richtman believes the Venom: The Last Dance trailer was likely a misdirect and, as of now, the plan is for the Venom Symbiote to appear in the movie. 

Given what Peter went through the last time we saw him, now does seem like the right time to pair him up with an alien which will see him embrace his darker side. And for Disney, the studio that owns the wall-crawler's merchandise rights, it's a good excuse to put Spidey in yet another new suit. 

Richtman later adds that Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures are now "very close" to hiring a Spider-Man 4 director, hopefully meaning production will begin on this long-awaited movie before the year is over.

Alongside Tom Holland, Zendaya is expected to reprise her role as MJ in Spider-Man 4. Sydney Sweeny is rumoured to be playing Black Cat, and it's been widely reported - but not confirmed - that Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofrio, and Paul Rudd will appear as Daredevil, The Kingpin, and Ant-Man. 

As for who could direct Spider-Man 4, plenty of names are floating around online. Among them are Justin Lin (Fast & Furious), Drew Goddard (The Cabin in the Woods) and, most recently, Ms. Marvel's Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire helmer Adam Wingard.

In terms of plot details, those are few and far between; the latest rumour to have surfaced suggests the plan is to pit Spidey against The Kingpin's goons, including Shocker and The Scorpion. It seems the idea is that the latter will acquire the Venom symbiote introduced in Spider-Man: No Way Home, only for Peter Parker to eventually don the alien suit heading into the next Avengers movies.

Spider-Man 4 doesn't currently have a confirmed release date.

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ShellHead
ShellHead - 6/24/2024, 4:08 PM
I'm hoping for Goddard but the Ms. Marvel/Bad Boys team could also do a good job. I think the time is right to finally bring a proper Spidey and Venom together
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/24/2024, 4:13 PM
@ShellHead - Goddard doesn't want this. He's got DC and Matrix
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/24/2024, 4:25 PM
@ShellHead - Goddard would be awesome.

And I love the Ms Marvel guys but they're not really all that. Bad Boys 3 was meh and Bad Boys 4 does look as bad as people say it is. And then there's Batgirl of course.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/24/2024, 4:45 PM
@ShellHead - I haven’t seen the new Bad Boys yet but it’s getting tons of praise. Even if they had messed up Batgirl (we will never know for sure), they seem like capable directors for this movie.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/24/2024, 5:57 PM
@mountainman - Bad Boys getting tons of praise? All I've heard is 'embarassingly unfunny'. Except from vectorsigma, he seemed to like it.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/24/2024, 6:03 PM
@ObserverIO - Low critic score (64%) but high audience score (97%). Seems like most of the public seeing it likes it. When critics and audience scores differ, I tend to trust the audience more.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/25/2024, 4:11 AM
@mountainman - I go the other way. Critics are regulated, audience scores can be review bombed so never trust them. Especially when there's such a huge discrepancy.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 4:09 PM
Of course, the real headline here is that Corenswet’s Superman suit fuсking sucks.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/24/2024, 4:13 PM
@Lisa89 - copy pasting in every article doesn't make you relevant dude.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 4:22 PM
@McMurdo - Twice, dude, twice. Are there only two articles on this entire website? Is this really your position?
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 6/24/2024, 5:18 PM
@Lisa89 - Then it's twice, In articles that have nothing to do with Superman. What are you hiding from?
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 5:20 PM
@Patient2670 - I do not think "hiding" means what you think it means.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 6/24/2024, 5:26 PM
@Lisa89 - Ok, Avoiding relevance? That better? And I don't think "Deftly" means what you thought it meant in your other comment.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 5:29 PM
@Patient2670 - I was being sarcastic. Were you being sarcastic when you said “hiding”?
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 6/24/2024, 5:37 PM
@Lisa89 - No, I was legitimately wondering why you were posting your opinion of superman's suit, safely away from the relevant comment sections about superman.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 5:41 PM
@Patient2670 - See the most recent Superman related article. There I am with a more thoughtful, less flippant, comment.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 6/24/2024, 5:46 PM
@Lisa89 - Very proud of you.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 5:57 PM
@Patient2670 - That makes two of us.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/24/2024, 6:50 PM
@Lisa89 - new article you better hurry!
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 6/24/2024, 6:55 PM
@McMurdo - The suit will continue to fuсking suck whether I mention it or not.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 6/24/2024, 9:03 PM
@McMurdo - neither does you on DC's dick
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/24/2024, 11:47 PM
@blitzburgh - slop slop!
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 6/25/2024, 9:10 AM
@McMurdo - you on DC dick
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/25/2024, 9:23 AM
@blitzburgh - I'm a Gunn stan
Did you not see Guardians 3?
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 6/26/2024, 10:40 AM
@McMurdo - you're a bitch
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 6/26/2024, 10:40 AM
@McMurdo - Gunn didn't do Spider-Man shit head
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 6/24/2024, 4:10 PM
I'm really excited for this film and I can't wait to see how they handle Street-Level Spider-Man. Glad they took their time to find the right director. Even more excited that they are bringing back old school villains from the Homecoming trilogy. This is the beauty when you don't kill off every villain.

If we can get a Spectacular Spider-Man feel to it I'll be completely won over.
RolandD
RolandD - 6/24/2024, 4:21 PM
@TheRationalNerd - That’s always bugged me, the tendency to kill super villains in CBMs. I mean, I get it that the actor playing the character might not want to return, but if they are not iconic in the role, they can always be recast. In a shared universe, they could always show up in another hero’s film if they think that they need to avoid redundancy. Sadly, Ledger’s Joker was one left alive and could have returned.
StSteven
StSteven - 6/24/2024, 11:36 PM
@RolandD - "the actor playing the character might not want to return, but if they are not iconic in the role, they can always be recast". Case in point: Red Skull. Granted, he had a lot of prosthetics so they just needed someone to look remotely like Hugo Weaving and do the voice, but still...
RolandD
RolandD - 6/25/2024, 12:20 AM
@StSteven - I had thought he would return, but I had given up on his returning by the time he did. I still think it’s a shame he and Cap only faced off one time.
StSteven
StSteven - 6/25/2024, 11:46 AM
@RolandD - Well, anything's possible at this point. Remember there's still the untold story of Cap returning the stones at the end of Endgame (which I think could be a pretty cool "Spotlight" or stand-alone movie) in which the two would have to face each other again. Plus, given that Cap chose to live out the rest of his life starting back in the 40s with Peggy we don't know what kind of adventures he had before he chose to retire as Cap. He could have gone on adventures with the Commandos and possibly faced the Skull again depending on where he actually was transported to at the end of "CA:TFA" (we don't know that he necessarily went straight to Vordimir).

Anyhow, there's some wiggle room to play with is my point if they chose to go there.
RolandD
RolandD - 6/25/2024, 2:12 PM
@StSteven - I would be good with seeing any of that.
StSteven
StSteven - 6/25/2024, 4:51 PM
@RolandD - Same here. They could play it out as a movie where it starts with it picking up from the scene at the end of "Endgame" with Cap returning the stones with Vordimir being the last one. He and the Skull get into a fight as he's returning the stone but when he leaves to return to the 40s the Skull somehow hitches a ride and ends up back in the 40s without Cap knowing. The Skull retakes his empire and proceeds to try to win WWII by capturing Hitler and taking control of the Nazi forces. Cap meanwhile doesn't know it's the Skull and goes on a series of missions with the Commandos taking down the Nazi forces piece by piece. Cap finds out the Skull is back on Earth and goes after him. Final battle, yada yada yada. The Axis loses the war and the Skull is imprisoned. Cap retires with Peggy. Until...

Note that you don't need to send the Skull back to Vordimir at the end of this movie, as he only has to be there by the time that Thanos first gets there. So you could theoretically keep him around for a long time. Yeah, all of this is messing with timelines and such, but honestly they've already done that to a certain degree and not one knows how any of this stuff would actually pay out because we're just not there yet. It's all still theoretical, so might as well have some fun with it before some kill-joy like Stephen Hawking comes around and tells up we're all idiots and that that would never happen (and no, he's not dead he's just with Dave Bowman and HAL now).
RolandD
RolandD - 6/25/2024, 5:50 PM
@StSteven - I’ll see if I can get you Feige’s number. Love the 2001 reference.
StSteven
StSteven - 6/25/2024, 7:09 PM
@RolandD - Big Arthur C. Clark fan. I have read all of his 2001-series books except 3001 (on the TODO list). Just got "Rendezvous With Rama", but haven't had time to crack it yet.

Tell Feige that I'm not a morning person, so he can expect a call in CST afternoon time. Plus, I use Zoom. Teams frickin' sucks. C'mon, let's have some standards Kev. 😉
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