VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Trailer Seemingly Retcons Major SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Plot Point

VENOM: THE LAST DANCE Trailer Seemingly Retcons Major SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME Plot Point

Today's Venom: The Last Dance trailer has seemingly retconned a major Spider-Man: No Way Home plot point, likely debunking recent rumours about Peter Parker donning an alien suit in Spider-Man 4...

By JoshWilding - Jun 03, 2024 10:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Venom

In Venom: Let There Be Carnage's post-credits scene, Eddie Brock was teleported from his reality to Earth-616 (a.k.a. the Marvel Cinematic Universe). 

His beaten-up Mexico hotel was replaced by what looked like a 5* resort, with the Venom Symbiote taking great interest in a TV news report about the wall-crawler. The stage was then set for a meeting between the two characters, only for Spider-Man: No Way Home to end with the reveal that Eddie never left his resort.

However, Venom did leave a piece of himself behind on Earth-616 in a scene clearly meant to open the door to Tom Holland's Peter Parker getting his own alien suit (which, in recent weeks, has become a rumoured plot point for the upcoming Spider-Man 4). 

With Eddie sent back to where he came from, only a bartender - played by Ted Lasso's Cristo Fernández - was left to comment on the fact his sole customer vanished without paying his tab.

In today's Venom: The Last Dance trailer, we see Chiwetel Ejiofor's mystery villain capture that lone piece of Venom, essentially retconning Spider-Man: No Way Home's stinger. 

It doesn't make a lick of sense but it's got fans talking and feels a lot like the Morbius trailer. That movie's teaser included graffiti of Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man labelling him a murderer, a sequence which didn't make it into the final cut. 

We can't believe Ejiofor's baddie has the power to travel between worlds and this seems to be Sony's way of backtracking and making it so that Venom is no longer on Earth-616...unless Eddie travelled back to his world where there's an identical bar with an identical bartender, and left an identical blob behind. 

When Spider-Man: No Way Home was released, there was a chance of it being Peter's MCU farewell, so plans for a Spider-Man/Venom crossover may have been scrapped in the years since. 

This is far from the only baffling moment in today's Venom: The Last Dance trailer as The Amazing Spider-Man star Rhys Ifans also makes an appearance. You can learn more about that here

Venom: The Last Dance stars Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Peggy Lu, Alanna Ubach, Stephen Graham, and Rhys Ifans. The movie is directed by Kelly Marcel from a screenplay she wrote, based on a story by Hardy and Marcel. The film is produced by Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal, Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy and Hutch Parker.

Venom: The Last Dance will be released in theaters on October 25. Check out this apparent retcon below.

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Spoken
Spoken - 6/3/2024, 10:33 AM
Hmmmmm, I'm thinking when he was teleported back, he was teleported to the same exact location.

But I'd be lying if that didn't make sense to me either when I first saw it and I'm sure Sony may gloss over it because...Sony lol
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/3/2024, 10:40 AM
@Spoken - if he was teleported to the same location, the blob shouldn't still be there...
Spoken
Spoken - 6/3/2024, 10:43 AM
@SATW42 - Hmmm that too, but he possibly left it there in the beginning. Just the same way? I mean that's Sony logic for you lol.

I noticed the Bartender was very clean looking when he was in 616, and suddenly here he looks different very different. So Eddie probably left the bar leaving a piece of symbiote there.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 6/3/2024, 10:34 AM
They turned this into a unfunny comedy.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 6/3/2024, 11:12 AM
@TheNewYorker - Isn't that what Venom movies have always been?
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 6/3/2024, 11:18 AM
@FinnishDude - hence the comment lol
PC04
PC04 - 6/3/2024, 10:37 AM
Here's an idea. WHY DON'T WE WAIT AND SEE?
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 6/3/2024, 11:29 AM
@PC04 - Truer words never spoken
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 6/3/2024, 12:21 PM
@PC04 - "WE"

I see what you did there
The1st
The1st - 6/4/2024, 6:50 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - Yes, but I've seen 2 now. Watching a turd in the wind isn't as hot as you'd think it is...well, you know what I mean.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/3/2024, 10:38 AM
Who thinks this looks good hahahah wtf
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 6/3/2024, 10:43 AM
in other words, without MS's guidance, Sony doesn't know what the f*ck they're doing with their IP.
that blob was very clearly left behind in the MCU Spidey's universe, but now it's in Venom's universe, basically ignoring the fact that Eddie was transported to the MCU to begin with...so they basically retconned something they themselves pushed for in the first place, seemingly for no clear reason.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 6/3/2024, 1:29 PM
@Spidey91 -

To be fair I don't think Marvel knows what the f*ck they're doing with their IP's anymore either.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/3/2024, 10:46 AM
Without full context it is just guesswork beyond them including it in the trailor to intentionaly increase the feel it is connected to the MCU movies...


...it could just be an end credit where a variant of the character in the MCU traps the remnant setting up Spider-man 4 and has nothing to do with the narrative of this Venomverse movie...

...it maybe Venom also lefts a piece of himself on a bar in the Venomverse too after the end credit where that happened in the MCU...

...it maybe a retcon where they opted to switch where they left it from the MCU bar to the Venomverse bar...

...it may not be a piece of Venom at all but the character is tracking him and goes to that bar where he was reported to have been seen but another symbiote is also hot on his trail and that was a piece of that symbiote...

Or something else that I haven't thought of but the main point remains this is tactical by Sony to hook in MCU fans that have been meh on Venomverse movies to yet again buy into this a third time that it is connected to the MCU, sort of, and thus a must see Marvel film.

The Venom movies are all full of flaws, on many levels they are all bad films, but not gonna lie have found them fun enough to enjoy watching them all and fun enough to not turn the TV off/over if they come on a channel I'm watching, even if not fun enough to intentionaly watch either a second time and this will likely be more of the same.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 6/3/2024, 10:48 AM
unless this is another random symbiote blob left behind by Eddie when he re-appeared in his universe and this specific bar location and bartender character just so happened to be a constant between the two universes...which is stretching it, but at least that doesn't break the continuity.
SATW42
SATW42 - 6/3/2024, 10:49 AM
It was weird enough that venom had the ability to leave a piece of himself behind (he'd have to do it on some level because it's not like Doc Oc got transported back to his universe with a piece of one of his arms missing, strange didn't have to be that specific with the spell)

But this basically means that he's just leaving pieces of himself all over the place?
Vigor
Vigor - 6/3/2024, 10:54 AM
@SATW42 -

"But this basically means that he's just leaving pieces of himself all over the place?"

Like a teenage boy who just discovered pornhub
RolandD
RolandD - 6/3/2024, 11:05 AM
@Vigor - LOLOLOL
Order66
Order66 - 6/3/2024, 10:55 AM
That literally makes no sense. The piece of the symbiote was left in the MCU. Sony being Sony smh.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 6/3/2024, 11:11 AM
Naw thats just a piece from a different symbiote. Its not even the same color as Venom
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 6/4/2024, 2:48 AM
@HammerLegFoot - I hope so. The same bartender being there makes me doubt this theory.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 6/3/2024, 11:13 AM
Is it a piece of venom though? There are other symbiotes out there. Sounds like shitty speculation.
seakhan
seakhan - 6/3/2024, 11:16 AM
C'mon, Joshy, ever heard of the multiverse or the Spider-verse? Your clickbait fishing game is obvious AF.
MrDarcy
MrDarcy - 6/3/2024, 11:23 AM
In the previous Venom movie, Eddie is at a resort on his own universe and is transported to the same resort but from the MCU. In the image you can see that Cristo Fernández is drinking tequila and another drink, so he is not the bartender and this is the Sony universe with its respective doppelgangers...
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 6/3/2024, 11:29 AM
I like Hardy as Brock, but this overly comedic Venom feels like an entirely different character, even by the cartoon standards.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 6/3/2024, 11:49 AM
I mean, Venom had some comedic moments in the comics, but I don’t remember the Symbiote being this much of a jackass
Itwasme
Itwasme - 6/3/2024, 11:51 AM
Honestly I don't really care. I actually liked the trailer quite a bit. I never found these to be good movies, but they've been really entertaining and my son loves them so I'm always down for it.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 6/3/2024, 12:02 PM
This is what happens when Sony plays nice with Marvel Studios strictly to poach ideas and use any legal loophole they can to try and trick the general audience into believing their movies take place within the MCU.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/3/2024, 12:02 PM
This certainly looks like the third movie in this series.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/3/2024, 12:13 PM
It seems to me they have retconned it because having Venom leave a second piece of himself in the same bar that has the same bartender in a different universe feels like a stretch but you never know with Sony…

Anyway we’ll see but right now , I don’t feel like we are getting the symbiote in the MCU anytime soon if at all.

massdeath
massdeath - 6/3/2024, 12:42 PM
This is your routine reminder that if you supported the first trash Venom movie in theaters YOU are responsible for this debacle that is the “Sony Pictures Universe of Spider-Man and Marvel Characters in a Cinematic Format of Some Variety” or the “SPUSMCCFSV” for short.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 6/3/2024, 2:34 PM
@massdeath - I saw Venom in theaters and i don't regret it one bit
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 6/3/2024, 1:53 PM
Sony gonna Sony
JFerguson
JFerguson - 6/3/2024, 2:37 PM
Deadpool and Wolverine is the answer to all your multiverse questions. Not to worry guys. All will be explained there
SirDuckAlot
SirDuckAlot - 6/3/2024, 2:39 PM
Tom Hardy definitely knows these films are shit and just collecting a paycheck.
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