@Tonic24k - I'm not completely against the statement. I can't say I agree with it either. That's the fun of filling in the blank. Whatever works for you.

It is also a nod to the fact that we've gotten as many headlines of "what almost happened" than what actually happened.

Phase 1 was brilliance. It was new ground, inventing concept, tone, imagination, heart & soul. Some things worked, some didn't, but they were clearly trying.

Same with two. They ironed out what didn't work, and tightened the crease on what did work. In most places...

(Ex: I'll take Whiplash over fake Mandarian any day of the week! Imagine resurrecting him as an ally in Baron Zemo's plot to unravel the Avengers?)

They underused villains, undercooked motives, and sometimes drooped the ball in plot points, but you rooted in both phases 1 & 2, because you clearly saw genuine attempts at better quality outcomes as the films continued.

MARVEL learned about the under-usage of villains in those phases. They evolved, and created their best formula, making Thanos an arguable "Ledger-Joker" tier villain in phase 3. They seemingly peaked. Then, went right back to undercooking villains...


...Phase 4 feels like the entitled children have come in and taken over the company...


We need to ✅ first, make sure we have at least 3-4 marketing triggers for toys, t-shirts, food, nostalgia- THEN- throw in a couple of images/lines from actual comic books.

The children have become greedy, corporate, decision-making, shells of what was. "The brand" is more important than "the product".

They sit at the buffet table with full bellies, demanding more dessert orders, while the people look in the window with growling stomachs.

We want greatness as much, if not more than ever, yet they are seemingly hell-bent on pushing agendas over quality entertainment.

I don't believe Kevin has nearly as much say so in this matter. He has displayed too much passion in the past to fall this far, this fast.

This is my variant 😤, along with other Disney demons, who think sorcery over substance. They suck the life out of anything good, knowing they'll be other creative works to fuel their agendas in future creators. It's sickening due to the fact that MARVEL, DC, & Image were my first loves- in that order.

I'm hoping they fire the foolish, and get back to taking this billion dollar medium more seriously. Hopefully, this phase could be the answer to all future "agenda aficionados".
When we get our balls back, and the gender eggnogs return, screaming for unnecessary stories, we can always say: see phase 4. If that was the strategy, kudos...

The goal:

MAKE PHASE 5 THE GREATEST POCKET OF ENTERTAIMENT EVER SEEN.

I want people to say:

"Yeah, the Northman 2 was cool as 💩, but did you see Thor V?"

"Batman 2 is on par with The Dark Knight, but World War 🌎 HULK took the story places I didn't think it could go."

"Holy shit- did you see Secret Wars??? The moment Spider-Man jumped out of the ship in the alien costume- I lost my [frick]ing mind!!!"

*PS: Zac Efron for the Beyonder.

I want to top every phase with the next phase. The growth of stories should liken a great oak.

The executives should stop acting like this is asking too much, and social media minions, pretending to be fans, should stop acting like this crap is great!

They are dancing 🐒, receiving kickbacks, social media numbers gains, early information perks, corporate treats, in exchange for the hollowing of their souls, lying to the public for promotional purposes...

You want silly? Cool. You've successfully established the multiverse. Make it feel like one!

"What the!??" is Takia Waititi's safespace. Let him go balls to the wall in that universe.

We don't need this level of silly shit anywhere ELSE. I want to see the empty Illuminati seat in MoM belong to the Superior Iron Man.

Can you imagine Tom Cruise walking into that room as the end credit of the next MARVEL movie??? That would've been cool at the end of MoM. He could've played in a Mad Men setting, completely taking us out of the world.


Instead, we see a guy stop slapping himself.

Shout out to Raimi's loyalty to Cambell, but put that shit at the end end and make it even funnier because it's a parody of MARVEL'S end credits. The janitor should be the first to catch that or something. I digress...



In conclusion: Make Stan proud you [frick]ing pu$$!ies!!!

Nuff' said!

@VictorAlonzo -

PHASE 4: WE ALMOST [frick]ED UP. TAIKA WAIKIKI IS A HACK. HE MADE THOR A [frick]ING JOKE.

@solskulldeath - that works as well! MARVEL has to reboot Thor again. I'd like to see him run across Ghost Rider. The epic-ness of their rivalry may wash away the fluff of this unhilarous cringe binge.

Reason: Thor seeks Hela. Why? To stop Hercules, who is Simp-washed by the Enchantress.

Hela resides in Hel, still hates Thor, Mephisto wants her gone sends Ghost Rider at her. She does "the enemy of my enemy spiel" to Johnny Blaze (which was Mephisto's expectation all along), they make a truce- he stops Thor, in exchange Hela grants him an escape from Hel. Mephisto sends her back with him, ridding her... for now.

Thor and Rider have at it, Hela and Enchantress have words regarding old ideals on world dominance, Beta Ray helps defeat Ghost Rider, Ghost Rider helps break the Enchantress' spell.

I want to see these guys have a fighting style all their own Thor- Brawler, Beta Ray- Gladiator, Hercules- Wrestler, Ghost Rider- slayer. This should be a classic fisticuffs fighting, fantasy for fervent fans. Eliminate the idiot. Cherish the Champion.

@VictorAlonzo - This is probably one of the best summarizations(?), explanations(?) of the MCU I've seen. You're spot on.

I really do hope Phase 4 was a "Let's get the SJW type shit out of the way so we can get back to worrying about making great stories again" Phase.

I do believe Disney stepped in and demanded more... marketing BS... I don't believe that falls solely on Feige.

Gone are the days where the mid/end credit scenes were mind blowing. I hope that comes back.

I hope they find the balls to go back to groundbreaking stories where you left the theater in awe of what you watched.

While I loved Ragnarok, and thoroughly enjoyed the likes of GotG and Love and Thunder, I want nothing more than to go back to a more serious MCU, where villains carry weight.

I feel like Phase 4 was a rebranded Phase 1 (not as good imo), but that we'll see true quality coming in Phase 5 and 6.

@FinnishDude - I think they should stop using CGI for things that don't require it and stop using practical effects for things that require CGI. If a character cannot be made through practical effects, make it CGI, but stop making every stunt CGI as well.

@FinnishDude - Mostly examples of characters being simplified or made more mundane, like Gorr or Juggernaut in X-men 3.