TRANSFORMERS Star Shia LaBeouf Accused Of Alleged "Hate Crime" After "Terrorizing" New Orleans

@Thing94 - Just do it!

I’ve said it before, a crazy buddy comedy with him and Ezra Miller playing versions of themselves would be comedy gold

@Ikusa - Hate crimes....Ha Ha Ha Ha. Humanity has morphed into pussies.

@abd00bie - MK ultra will leave a mark for sure.

@Matchesz - exactly on both accounts

@EskimoJ - doubt Even Stevens really going to actually kill somebody lol, cops should've been called sooner and had him put him in a drunk tank, they were antagonizing a wasted person including the bartender those ppl aint shit

@Vigor - explain how

@Apophis71 - bartender told him to go back to digging holes.. there a lot I see not getting reported everytime they target somebody, shaming culture is in full swing, I was told I had a bad take for saying Michael Jordan wasnt a pedo also.. funny the mob always go for ppl like Shia or Mel Gibson the loud ones who stand on business but never someone like Harvey Levin or Whoopie Goldberg who is an actual parasite in society and on the list.

@Apophis71 - I don’t think anyone is claiming he’s innocent. He was definitely being a drunken ass hole. I don’t really fault the dude holding him down and throwing a punch or two to make sure he stays down.
the fault I find is in the frigging idiot doing nothing and screaming in his ear. Although, I did watch this pretty much on silent bc I got up for work too early (by accident) and I’m chilling for a sec with my wife still asleep next to me.
Look, I’ve been a drunk idiot (never like this and never throwing slurs around- my drunk adventures are usually too stupid to realize something is a bad idea and telling people I love them), and I’ve had to restrain a lot of drunk idiots from making their situation worse. Hell, I’ve got a buddy who’s like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde when he drinks. It isn’t the “true feelings” (none what comes out of him are slurs either though-but will try to fight people) but his demons from years and years of wild wild trauma (both firefighters in the busiest ladder in our city). Anyway, I get restraining people for being drunk idiots. Having some second dick head scream in your face when you’re already agitated, drunk and embarrassed doesn’t help the situation.

[frick]... I had almost the same situation as this happen during the holidays at a bar (not a celebrity though). Drunken idiot started saying some dumb shit. someone else knocked him out and he smacked his head. I went out, separated the two, told the one guy to leave and ended up calming the guy down and getting him in an ambulance to get checked out. But, when people tried gathering around, I told them all to go away. A lot of people were pissed at the dude and wanted to tell him off for being an ass hole... all that would have done was make the situation worse. Helps I’m pretty [frick]ing big and was able to drop the tenor in my voice and intimidate them into [frick]ing off, but eventually everyone kind of saw what I was trying to do.

Dude is an ass Hole. Dude probably was used as some executives personal finger puppet as a child too, so I’m sure he’s working through some wild ass demons. I dunno. Everyone has their shit, I guess. And I see a few people all doing dumb shit here.

@Apophis71 - I agree with you that his drinking is out of control. I’m not defending him. I think there are some people acting like dick heads in the video though.
Dude just needs to stop drinking altogether. He’s very clearly one of those dudes that cannot drink and have a good time. He turns into an ass hole.

So, I used to do the bar scene a lot. I avoid it quite a bit now because I’m a bigger guy and you’ll sometimes get idiots that want to “test themselves” or show off by acting tough to the big dude at the bar. They’re really stupid, especially when you see that my ears look like a rhino’s dick, but drinking and smarts have really only been correlated (loosely) during ancient Greek symposium, and even then, they tended to act like idiots... see the whole Athenian Herm situation (I’m drinking as I type this, if you can’t tell by my side bar). Anyway.

I could be TOTALLY off my mark here. BUT, the way I read this (and I tend to be pretty accurate about these things) is this:
Shia gets shit faced and probably starts acting a bit like an idiot. People recognize him and things start to get heated, and I could TOTALLY see people being hard asses to him bc of his fame.
He’s drunk, and instead of handling him like any other drunk, people kinda pile on. He says dumb shit that makes the “pile on” worse with a LOT more people involved (He dropped the “bundle of sticks” word). Then it turns into mod vs drunken ass hole. Punches get thrown (bc he’s shit faced so of COURSE he threw the first punch- I mean that sincerely... rereading it, that could have come off sarcastically) and it spirals to what we have in this video.

The reasoning behind that is the dude hitting him to try to keep him down doesn’t even seem made. I dunno... I’ve just seen shit like this a TON. I’m usually the one to grab the guy, try to talk him down and get him an uber or a cab (and sometimes getting him into his door).

I’m also a bit sympathetic too... there are a LOT of firefighters I know that are really great guys that have a TON of unresolved trauma and zero coping skills that turn into messes of one kind or another when they’re drunk. This dude kind of reminds me of them. I can be an idiot after my share of alcohol, but that usually means telling people I love them and trying to climb something/ do parkour or asking a cop to race me (barefoot too btw) or something stupid, but light hearted... Also I’ve destroyed my knees and ankles so it’s always funny thinking I can keep up with people when I’m drunk lol used to ru a 6 minute mile (could probably get back to that if I really tried), but I’m in my late 30’s now and have been shot, stabbed, blown up in 2 separate IED attacks, had houses collapse on me and been in WILD accidents, SMOKED by a car and my foot go through a floor while pulling someone out... I am NOT running at optimum speed lol...Anyway... I hope the dude gets the help he needs. He needs to stop drinking though.

If you’re not drinking to remember the good, but you try to drink to forget the bad, you provably shouldn’t be drinking.

@Demigods - I can certainly see all of that being true with what occurred outside the bar that led to what was in the vid, seen plenty of all of that.

However most the article is about what went on in the bar with the attacks on the bar staff. Now we only have one side obviously but it seems it is the bar stuff he was charged for assault with and the details as stated in the article paints the picture that Shia started it with no sign the bar staff did anything wrong. Considering how often he has been charged and prosecuted for assault due to intoxication and the like over the last decade or so and was recorded handing out racial abuse to arresting officers it paint a pattern which suggests, but doesn't prove that the bar stuff was almost all on Shia.

Outside after being ejected I could see it being both sides culpable in an escalating scenario like you suggest.

Very much a case of let the courts decide however, but I don't see anything in the article that suggests the bar staff did anything wrong is more the point as what went on outside wouldn't be bar staff as they'd still be working in the bar and was responding to Matches he seemed to be implying it was almost ALL on the bar staff side of things.

That said, long believed bar staff should take a stronger line on refusing to serve anyone who is obviously too drunk already to handle more so there is that :D All in all however, Shia needs a shit ton of therapy and get his head sorted and get back on the wagon ASAP what ever the exact details of what went down :D

@MisterBones - sometimes you gotta, to get better

@MrDandy - no, that’s Armie Hammer.