The Black Canary Mystery Deepens In New Extended Promo For ARROW's Midseason Premiere

@Doomsday8888 - Which version of Talia do you want, though? The husky-voiced, discreet behind the scenes strategist, super hot, dark, exotic and mysterious Talia who loved Batman and is a criminal but still has a good heart, or the angry psychotic genocidal terrorist who got her own son killed after setting Gotham on fire and destroying Batman? Personally, I couldn't stand Grant Morrisson's depiction of Talia. I thought she didn't make sense and was really unlikeable.

@Doomsday8888 - You played Arkham City? Man, that scene before the fight against Ra's when Batman is poisoned and she greets him in her leather pants… I remember thinking "Wow, now that's how Talia should look like" :)

Looks like her casting is pretty all right for once. I hope we get to see Lady Shiva one day, one of my favorite characters (especially her Birds of Prey days, but also her NEW 52 self where she destroys Nightwing without him lending a single hit on her. I mean, screw Nightwing, right?).

@Doomsday8888 - I really used to like Nightwing, he had his moments, his relationship with Damian was great, he was cool before Knightfall, he wore the cowl with pride, but I think many writers ruined him over a few years by trying to making him everything at once.

They tried to make him the most badass fighter on the planet slash super secret agent slash hottest guy who gets all the girls slash key piece of too many story arcs for no reason (he was supposed to become the greatest Talon who ever lived, really? Guy is so badass Owlman has to imprison him in a cell made for Doomsday, really?)

And in the meanwhile, supposed badass literally changes towns and runs away twice a year, goes back to the circus in Gotham, back to New York, then Bludhaven, then Chicago, then back to New York, quits from literally 10 teams and 10 leader positions, and confronts Batman 10 times by telling him he's not his dad and he wears a big boy suit. Guy needs to rediscover himself every 2 weeks like a teenager, and even though every chick seems to have the hots for him, he can't keep one for more than 2 dates. Guys quits, fails and resigns EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME. For [frick]'s sake :)

Kinda like Arrow, actually. Circle is complete. They're trying to make him a badass, which worked for a while, but now he just appears as a whiny emo douche. I have the exact same problem with Nightwing as I have with Cyclops.

@Highball - Completely agree on the Felicity crap. It kinda got old after 5 seasons, I just saying the trolls get old after a while

@Highball The first 2.5 seasons of Arrow were good. The current season has been waaaay better than expected. Mostly because Oliver and Felicity are no longer together, and they aren't centering the show around her every episode.

@rebelnmotion - awww i miss ruby

@Kevwebsz - Yeah I'd suggest you turn back now. This is where they start to lose focus and pretty quickly turn from a smart prequel to Superman into pretty much Superman without the name and costume.

@BlackStar25 - Only mystery is why they would give the Black Canary role to such a terrible actress who doesn't fit the physical bill (her sister does), kill her off, then decide to bring her back. Because it's Arrow. Everyone who dies comes back the following season, unless they have another contract (which is why Tommy is definitely not Prometheus). Well, better than 80 pounds Thea who became a ninja master in 5 weeks, I guess. As far as terrible casting goes, those two are both completely unbelievable and unlikeable.