My thoughts on the City Hall fight

My thoughts on the City Hall fight

Bit late, I know, but I just wanted to type this up because I have nothing better to do, and I wanted to get this off my chest. This is my thoughts on the big brawl on the steps of Gotham's City Hall.

Editorial Opinion
By sonofsamadams - Mar 06, 2012 04:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman

Hello all. Now, after reading hundreds of comments on different sites, dozens of articles and several clips, I've come to my conclusion (eh, opinion, whatever) on the big Gotham City hall fight. Its an astonishing fight sequence, from the few seconds spotted on the theatrical trailer. Hell, even the hand held camera spying on the filming was pretty epic too. I sat back and laughed at the haters who saw the set pics of Bane and Batman fighting, calling it fake and cheesy. WELL NO SHIT. Its supposed to be fake, its a movie. It'll look 100x better when its all edited and slapped on the big screen.



Now, most of the comments I've read speculating on this sequence suggest that it happens mid way through the movie, where Bane breaks Batman's back and causing Bruce Wayne to hang up the cape for awhile. Personally, I don't agree. Yeah, I can see it happening, but it doesn't seem right according the synopsis.

Here's my take:

8 years after the Dark Knight, Bruce Wayne has hung up the cape on Batman, and in the mean time has spent his days working on Wayne Enterprises, and rebuilding Wayne manner. Peace, right? Nooooooooooope. Chuck Testa. Bane rolls in with this plan to take over Gotham through force and destruction. This causes Wayne to come up and put the cowl back on to face this new menace.

Over-used speculation I know, but I'm gettin to my point.

In the picture shown below, is where I believe Bane beats the living shit out of Batman, shatters his mask and either breaks his back or mortally wounds him. This is the first time Batman has ever faced a villain like this. In the past he's dealt with intellectually strong villains, but not physically strong ones. The Joker was no problem, Scarecrow was like breaking a tooth pick, and Ra's Al Ghul was a little challenge but not entirely difficult.



Bane, is a different story. Bane is intellectually and physically strong, matching Batman in almost every way. However, he meets Batman in the Dark Knight's low point. Its been almost a decade since Wayne has seen any intense action, and now he's a bit rusty when he first faces Bane. Yeah he still has some old moves, but since he hasn't used them in quite a while, its easy practice for Bane. So Bane kicks his ass, knocks him unconscious. Wayne later wakes up to see Bane standing over him. Of course Bane would recognize him, according to Falcone 'You would have to go a 1000 miles to meet someone who didn't know Bruce Wayne's name.' Its at this point that Bruce is in agonizing pain that he wants Bane to kill him. But Bane mocks him by delivering his already famous line, 'When Gotham is....ashes...you'll have my permission to die.' So Bane throws him into some kind of prison where he wants his Goons to keep Wayne under control. It is hear that Bruce plans his escape. his wounds heal and he trains himself to get back into tip top shape. I wouldn't know how he exactly escapes, but....he escapes. I'll leave it at that. Bruce realizes that Gotham is now overrun and he has to bring it back.



I believe Catwoman will be portrayed correctly in this film. She'll be that anti-hero that toys with Batman for the first half of the movie. but the last hour (assuming this movie will be 3 hours long. C'mon, its Nolan) she'll team up with Batman in my opinion. Bruce will come to selina Kyle with a plan. He'll tell her that yeah they may have their differences and she may have a troubled past, but she is the only one who can help him. At that point in the movie, Selina might have some dirt with Bane and wants him dead. So now, they have something in common. So Selina will gather a bunch of followers (or citizens who've had enough of Bane and his goons and are willing to stand up for what's right) and Bruce will get his gear together...the suit, the gadgets and the Nightwing (Called the 'Bat' but oh well).

So we have our fight. They learn Bane's location at City Hall and send their rebel force of Gotham's citizens upon it. Bane will probably treat this as a simple matter, that is until Catwoman and Batman show up. His forces are then tackled head on by this uprising and are over powered. Admits the large brawl, Bane fights his way through police officers, and other gothamites, until he meets Batman face to face. This is the first time in a long time that Bruce will face his match. He'll look surprised and scared, but sucks it in and takes Bane head on. The fight starts off with Bane appearing to be winning, once again kicking Batman's ass. But Batman turns the table and beats Bane down to the point where he retreats to his armored truck. While Gothamites and what is left of their Police force round up what's left of Bane's goons, Batman peruses bane in the Bat. This chase will be one of the most intense sequences we'll ever see, as well as thrilling. Bane's armored truck is guarded by two tumblers, which try to shake Batman with little success. They're knocked out of the chase allowing Batman to deliver a strike onto the truck. The vehicle goes off road, and crashes.

Batman hops out of his hovercraft to see if he actually killed Bane and finds out the masked man lives. They have one final show down. Now there have been wide spread speculations on Batman and Bane's final showdown. Personally I don't know how it will end but my big guess is that Batman will break his one rule and kill bane. Why? Well I'll tell ya-Batman has endured so much and if lets Bane live, then the villain might return. That's why Batman is seen during the day in the City Hall fight. Its the end, and he could give a shit if its day or night; he needs to get end this NOW, regardless-Which is a true indication of a hero there. My speculation ends with Batman killing bane in a cool way involving tearing off the face mask.

I don't know; that's what I think.

Just wait, and I'll turn out to be completely wrong and look like a jack-ass.

What are you thoughts?
What do you think this scene means?
How do you think It will end?
How will Bane die, if he dies at all?
Let me know!
Oh and I've posted the clip of the City Hall fight below for you enjoyment.

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wedontdie
wedontdie - 3/6/2012, 5:07 PM
I personally believe that it would end with batman killing Bane but Bane leaving Batman broken.. that's why he starts using a cane.. which leaves Bruce to leave the crime fighting days... and then 20 years after the incident, Terry Mcginnes bumps into a broken batman and batman beyond steps into the picture.
Bane2099
Bane2099 - 3/6/2012, 5:33 PM
Maybe Det. John Blake in the movie is really gonna be Det. Terry McGinnes...one can hope and dream
95
95 - 3/6/2012, 7:07 PM
Really? I assumed everyone knew the City Hall battle to be Batman's last confrontation with Bane. (Act 1) • Peacetime Interrupted - Bane Reveals Harvey Dent a fraud. (Act 2) • Batman returns to stop Bane - Batman broken - Locked in Prison - Wealthy are imprisoned. (Act 3) • Batman escapes - Social Class Civil War - Heavyweights Showdown.

Bane gets killed inside City Hall. No set pics of him during the HEMTT chase. Miranda reveals herself, stabs Bruce in the back(?). She boards the HEMTT to "complete their mission". Catwoman picks Batman up. Aids him in chase. Blah, blah, blah....

I get carried away with this speculating shit, lol.
Hellsing
Hellsing - 3/7/2012, 2:52 AM
wow your a funny guy man, yeah Ra's Al Ghul wasn't difficult at all hence the reason why Batman let him die because you know if he lived he would have come back and [frick]ed shit up but I guess that isn't what you consider difficult.

Anyways your theory is sound I guess
calin88
calin88 - 3/7/2012, 7:59 AM
Really?? Batman kills Bane? he killed Dent, now he kills Bane in TDKR? whats next? guns instead of batarangs? i love BB and TDK, but what I didn't like was the way Nolan made Bats do everything he isn't supposed to do(reffering to the comics of course). he flipped out in the Joker interogation(Batman doesn't lose his calm...ever!!), he killed Dent, who he could have taken down easily without his coin even touching the ground(but he just had to show up in front of him when he was waving a gun, he let Ra's die,he did have it coming,but... in BB, Bruce says "I'm not an executioner, criminals have to be judged"(or something like that, oh yeah, and he shoots bombs and drives over police cars with that tank! Sorry Nolanites, overall great movies, but went too far from the source material, I'm afraid to watch TDKR and see Batman die, everyone finds out who he is and be replaced by John Blake who is even skinnier than Scarecrow, that would have me leave the theater
batfan175
batfan175 - 3/7/2012, 8:26 AM
@Calin88: so batman didn't kill the joker in the dark knight returns? i i remember i "Hush" he nearly killed the joker because he thought he'd killed his childhood friend, only to be reminded by Gordon that he does not kill and that he'd go to jail if he did indeed kill the joker; So i believe batman does lose his calm but it depends on the situation. He gave Ra's al ghul an escape route but i always saw it as the early interpretation of batman in the 1940s (who was actually carrying a gun, killing his enemies). And like Burton's batman never killed anyone? What people are interested in is the culpability of batman, the fact that there is a point to be made about how he is so close to his opponents. I think Nolan made batman a morally grey character that the burton films never managed to pull off in an entertaining way (at least for me). so don't say batman doesn't kill because that depends on the interpretation. Also, what if john blake becomes batman? isn't the idea in Nolan's films that batman is a symbol rather than a man? Why do you think people like Hugo Strange claim they can be batman, too? because he's not just one individual.
calin88
calin88 - 3/7/2012, 9:12 AM
@batfan175 you really are a batfan:) I'm not saying I'm an expert, my knowledge of Batman comes from the movies( didn't see the Burton ones,but still don't agree with him killing) Batman TAS , the Arkham games and I only read the new 52 comics, but I will dwonload The Dark knight returns, you made me curious. No dissrespect in my comment, I guess I played too much Arkham City lately and TDK franchise kind of went down in my eyes a bit, I even rewatched BB and TDK a few days ago and I imagined TwoFace holding a gun on Gordon and his family and Batman appearing out of nowhere and doing a silent takedown, and I agree, Batman is a simbol, but I don't see anyone but Bruce Wayne donning the cape and cowl, maybe it's just me, but I think the Arkham City version is the very best one of the character, fighting,intellect, expertise,voice- PERFECT!!I'm such a big fan that I'm afraid that he is going to get broken by Bane or die at the end, I belive that Batman is a symbol, but there could only be one Batman!
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 3/7/2012, 1:16 PM
@Batfan175 . . Just wanted to point point that The Joker killed himself in Dark Knight Returns.
PeterParker1991
PeterParker1991 - 3/7/2012, 4:43 PM
Batman doesn't kill. Ever. If you don't know that then you have either never read a comic or you don't truly understand the character. Possibly both.
wolfgangdarkknight
wolfgangdarkknight - 3/7/2012, 5:51 PM
peterparker- agree
batfan- you sir really are a bat-fan, like myself...

i cannot wait for this movie
overlordfombax
overlordfombax - 3/7/2012, 7:48 PM
@Barnacle

But Bruce very nearly killed him, that was his point. He left him paralyzed and a twist away from death - didn't give the guy a much better option, eh? Arguably way worse than letting Ra's die in Begins

@PeterParker

Except when he killed a whole bunch of people in the 1940s, and when he left KGBeast to die. And let's face it, the real reason Batman doesn't kill in the comics is because that would end the story by (A) killing off key moneymaking villains and (B) changing Bruce forever. And those comics have to go on forever...

Meanwhile, Nolan has the freedom to tell a Batman story that DOES end, and that end begins (haha) with Batman being forced to take a life to save an innocent child.
overlordfombax
overlordfombax - 3/7/2012, 7:51 PM
@Calin

To be fair, in the Arkham games Batman is able to vault 10-15 feet across the room, grapple boost in midair (the impossible physics behind that give me a headache), take down a dozen supervillains in one night, and avoid a literal army of snipers without being spotted. He's a video game character, so he does things no man could do in real life. That includes a Silent Takedown. In the Nolan films, Batman can do a lot of cool stuff, but not a completely silent one-hit-KO. He's a human being, not a virtual creation.
overlordfombax
overlordfombax - 3/7/2012, 7:52 PM
@Calin

Also if ya read the New 52, you do know Dick dons the cowl, right?

: P
zachshivey
zachshivey - 3/8/2012, 2:33 PM
A buddy of mine worked on the set (in Pittsburgh) and he said after the fight it spills into the building & back outside somehow? Then they jump in the tumblers and take off...
tdkrphilosopher225batman
tdkrphilosopher225batman - 3/9/2012, 10:13 AM
My theory: Batman and Bane have their fight, which takes place both inside and outside of City Hall. Bane temporarily subdues Batman and escapes with some goons in his HEMTT (which carries Bane's bomb.) Batman regains himself and chases Bane in the Bat. At the end of the chase through the streets, Batman forces the HEMTT to crash into the lower part of the street, which kills Bane. Batman approaches the HEMTT with a hook and chain from the Bat and straps it to the bomb. He flies the bomb into the sky where it explodes. The cops (who just finished subduing the goons on the City Hall steps) look to the sky and cheer. My theory is based on all of the set videos of the chase and the fight. I believe Bane will die because he doesn't attempt to stop Batman from hooking up the bomb after the crash. If you watch the video of this part, Batman merely hooks it up, briefly talks to Catwoman, and then hops in the Bat. That's my theory.
tdkrphilosopher225batman
tdkrphilosopher225batman - 3/9/2012, 10:14 AM
P.S. The part of my theory where the fight goes inside then back out is based on zachschivey's comment above.
jblack
jblack - 6/16/2012, 5:57 PM
I like your theory about Batman killing Bane. But there has to be a little more motivation. I believe some how Afred gets involved and Bane kills him. When that happen we see a Batman that goes beserks dismantling and killing Bane. Doing the one things he never wanted to do. Kill
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