CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Rumor Reveals What Marvel Studios Has Planned For The Serpent Society

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Rumor Reveals What Marvel Studios Has Planned For The Serpent Society

Captain America: Brave New World is set to undergo extensive reshoots this summer and new details have now emerged about plans for the Serpent Society before they were supposedly cut from the movie...

By JoshWilding - Mar 02, 2024 05:03 AM EST

Captain America: Brave New World is set to undergo extensive reshoots later this year and, if recent rumours are to be believed, Marvel Studios plans to completely cut out the Serpent Society.

So far, at least two members of the group have been spotted filming, including Rosa Salazar (Alita: Battle Angel) and Seth Rollins (WWE's current World Heavyweight Champion). To leave them on the cutting room floor seems extreme and we can only theorise that something about the Society's inclusion in the movie wasn't working.

Now, scooper @CanWeGetToast claims to have learned what Marvel Studios originally had planned for the villains. 

It's said the Serpent Society consisted of Diamondback, Constrictor, Rattler, Asp, and Cobra, with all of them boasting segmented tattoos which would spread apart to reveal cybernetic enhancements. This bit is a little vague, but the leaker reveals that, together, they'd have made the "Serpent."

Diamondback could shoot projectiles from her fingers, Rattler had sonic boom powers, Constrictor unleashed charged coils from his arms, Asp had fire fists, and Cobra could spit acid from his fangs.

Was the whole thing too silly or just one lot of villains too many in a movie that also includes Red Hulk and The Leader?

Time will tell, but in other MCU news, Daniel Richtman reports that Marvel Studios is looking for new characters to replace them. Captain America: Brave New World also isn't the only upcoming release scheduled for reshoots as Deadpool & Wolverine will squeeze some in this May. 

"[I'm] really excited. I had a great time filming it," Tim Blake Nelson recently told us about his return as The Leader. "And [I] worked with the Marvel team and this wonderful makeup artist named David Atherton with whom I've collaborated on a dozen movies now."

"I think people are going to be pretty excited about what this guy looks like. And what he has to say and what he does," he teased. "All power to the amazing team over there at Marvel."

Assuming they all make the cut, Captain America: Brave New World stars Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, Danny Ramirez, Carl Lumbly, Tim Blake Nelson, Shira Haas, Liv Tyler, and WWE Superstar Seth Rollins.

Julius Onah helms the movie from a screenplay by Malcolm Spellman and Dalan Musson, though the director is believed to have also taken a pass at it. Matthew Orton, meanwhile, has written new scenes for the reshoots which are taking place later this year.

Captain America: Brave New World arrives in theaters on February 14, 2025. 

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MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 3/2/2024, 5:49 AM
Red Hulk might draw the crowd in but I'm not holding out much hope for this.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 3/2/2024, 5:59 AM
@MarvelousMarty - yep the times are changing my friend.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/2/2024, 9:37 AM
@MarvelousMarty -
The inclusion of Thunderbolt Ross/Red Hulk is a massive turn off personally and why I probably won't pay to watch this, if I even do watch this. I have no faith in them developing the character to be interesting and the political aspects are handled by the incompetent writers of TF&TWS.

Harrison Ford clearly is just wanting to pick up a paycheck and Disney thought he'd be a box office draw back when they thought Dial Of Destiny would actually make money. So I'm not expecting much in regards to his acting either and we know from filming that Sam just 1v1's him, tanking heat that melts his vibranium wings, despite having no powers so it's not going to feel like a justified either.

I fully expect this film to flop along with Thunderbolts. The damage these two films will do to the MCU will reverse any good faith that Deadpool 3's nostalgia cameos might generate.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 3/2/2024, 5:57 AM
Off topic but boy has times changed we went from getting a comic book movie here and there but I think around the time SpiderMan and X-Men came out that really set things in motion. Studios seen the money these films could make and just started pumping them out left and right.My biggest fear has come true just like western movies people got bored off them and started turning on them. There was a time marvel studios could do no wrong now in the comment section all I see are people crapping on movies before one bit of film has come out or even the plot.I don't know were we go from here folks.
quas95
quas95 - 3/2/2024, 8:21 AM
@pitbull76 - I don't think it's audiences being bored. I think it's a quality issue. Then when you shoot a ton of low quality stuff out there on streaming on top of that it starts to weigh on the audience imo. If Marvel could ever course correct and get anywhere near Infinity Saga or better then I assure you audiences would be coming back.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 3/2/2024, 9:23 AM
@quas95 - No I agree with you and that's the biggest problem with the genre right now it's quantity over quality.
JonC
JonC - 3/2/2024, 1:52 PM
@quas95 - The movies and shows deviate away from the A listers being A listers too much (actually B and C listers that the MCU made A listers). The reason Spidey sells and Ms Marvel has but a portion of the sales is because of target audience size... and that reflects in who is gonna go the theaters and see them. Ant Man was never A list but Ant Man as part of the Avengers is. Captain Marvel was never A list, but CM as part of the MCU Avengers is.

There's simply too much B and C and D level characters being given green lights that have no audience.

With that said, yes, given the right director and actor they can make another roster of A list characters from B and C ones... but that really hasn't happened yet.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/2/2024, 6:05 AM
They’re all going to get killed off, wither by the hero or by a bigger bad guy in a twist betrayal scene. No villain is going to see another film after this one.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 3/2/2024, 6:36 AM
I just watched The Falcon and the Winter Soldier for a third time. I know I’m in the minority, but it’s my favorite D+ MCU series.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 3/2/2024, 7:06 AM
@tylerzero - ya I have been slacking on most of the MCU tv series since they start coming out. Although I did watch Echo i seen most of the promos and thought I would check it out glad I did really enjoyed it.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 3/2/2024, 7:33 AM
@tylerzero - I enjoy it a lot. I just don’t like the Flag Smashers
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/2/2024, 7:52 AM
@FireandBlood - making flagmaster a short ginger haired girl was a weird choice. If bucky and us agent are grown military trained soldiers/assassin and she’s basically a random activist but they all take super soldier serum. Their power levels should still match as regular people since she doesn't have the combat training they do. It makes bucky and us agent look incompetent
DocSpock
DocSpock - 3/2/2024, 8:46 AM
@tylerzero -

You are in a teeny tiny minority there. The whole thing was an angsty punch in the face agenda movie.

While they were moaning, preaching, and vilifying whitey, they forgot to include entertainment.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 3/2/2024, 9:39 AM
@tylerzero - 2nd favorite here. Upon rewatch it glowed a lot better. It was elite to me
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 3/2/2024, 9:47 AM
@DocSpock - if putting what actually happens to black Americans in a show i.e. being turned down from loans at a higher rate than other races of the same credentials or black veterans being lynched after returning home is vilifying whiteys then oh boy. Wait until you hear about redlining and Jim Crow laws.

Look entertainment is subjective. I found the show entertaining as hell especially upon rewatch but I find people saying vilify whitey a little asinine, no offense.

I had so many spirited discussions on here after black panther came out because a lot of yall(speaking in general) said kilmonger said he wanted to kill all white people and I offered 100 dollars to anyone who could find that. People hear “people in power” and automatically think white people. It’s actually pretty nuts
CajunSamantha
CajunSamantha - 3/2/2024, 10:35 AM
@MyCoolYoung - I had zero issues with the politics/racial message of the show. I agree with another poster that it was odd for the lead Flagsmasher to be able to hold a candle to juiced-up trained soldiers, though. And the MESSAGE of the ending speech was good, it's just HOW it was written was a little hokey. Would still prefer juiced-up Bucky to regular human Sam as Cap, though. Sam as Falcon kicks ass. Sam as Cap feels underpowered.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 3/2/2024, 11:28 AM
@CajunSamantha - I have zero quarrels with anything you said. First watch the speech was goofy as hell and awfully preachy. Second watch it was better but still eh.

Didn’t John walker whoop the ass when he first got his serum? He was borderline insane at that point but this criticism can go to almost anything. For instance, Bucky got whooped by Spider-Man, who had fought none of his villains and no training then Spider-Man got whooped by vulture. The power scaling is a writers thing. I always think of Stan Lee saying anyone can win in a fight if it’s written that way.

Ironically I read that’s going to be in Cap 4 about Sam struggling with if he should take the serum or not. I think Steve knew Bucky wouldn’t of been accepted by the public as Cap after winter soldier files were leaked
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/2/2024, 12:07 PM
@tylerzero - its easily one of the worst.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 3/2/2024, 1:05 PM
@MyCoolYoung -

I resent your including me in your "yall" comment. And I'm very well aware of American history regarding black people.

You brought up a perfect example. Black Panther was a very good movie that also brought up some of these issues. F&WS spent most of its time speaking to these things in a low-quality production entertainment-wise.

people seek out entertainment to be entertained.

Cleander
Cleander - 3/2/2024, 1:07 PM
@tylerzero - I rewatch the flying scenes and that's about it and everything else was uninteresting bc I find none of the characters or the story in the show compelling enough to rewatch. I don't even need a good story just give me a good fighting scene that I can't fault in and l'm good
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 1:20 PM
@tylerzero - WandaVision is mine, apart from the finale.
JonC
JonC - 3/2/2024, 1:54 PM
@tylerzero - All the streamed shows are decent once you get past the initial release and the fan boys whining about how no one cares about that character and why they are doing a disservice to the comics.
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 3/3/2024, 4:52 PM
@FireandBlood - preach. My take has alwsys been that the Sam/Bucky/Walker shield drama was great, but the whole poorly executed flag smashers plotline is what dragged the series down.

The tone, action, direction etc were all awesome, but when that little girl would come on screen and start whining it dragged.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/2/2024, 7:08 AM
If true then those are more or less their abilities in the comics (with the exception of Asp’s fire fists which is odd since in the comics she just paralyzed you with her Venom).

The segmented tattoos spreading apart to reveal cybernetic enhancements just seems strange & unnecessary imo , you could have just made them enhanced people (possibly by The Leader).

However , Cobra is a wrestler in the comics so it’s cool that they got one to play him in the movie with Seth Rollins.



Anyway , my guess is that they saw the dailies and felt like the characters were maybe too silly in action for the tone of the film but we’ll likely never know (or not until release).

I hope this isn’t true and that they are in the film but with so many rumors of them being cut or reduced , I doubt it.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 3/2/2024, 7:41 AM
Yes, let’s take characters that have been created and defined in the comics and change them completely for a movie. Stupid.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/2/2024, 8:02 AM
Stop changing things from the comics, why even bother if your always doing the wrong thing
Origame
Origame - 3/2/2024, 8:03 AM
How's Sam supposed to defeat all of this with no powers?

This is on par with civil war in terms of power scaling enemies, and that movie was a borderline avengers movie.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 8:51 AM
@Origame - But Captain America:Civil War was entertaining and very good movie, unlike this which will be preachy.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/2/2024, 9:25 AM
@Origame -
He 1v1's Red Hulk in-front of the White House and wins despite having no powers. Noting that this Red Hulk is effectively similar to Doomsday from the Justice League movie and has a radius attack that he's spamming, effectively emanating blasts of flame.

We know part of the fight scene involves Red Hulk unleashing heat from his body that is hot enough to melt Sam's vibranium wings and does so... yet Sam is apparently perfectly fine despite being the same distance away.

The film is a mess. It feels like those involved did not realize that Sam did not have powers.
JonC
JonC - 3/2/2024, 1:55 PM
@Scarilian - I want Harrison as the Red Hulk as the president in the movie... that would put a twist on things.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/3/2024, 11:18 AM
@JonC -
He was/is the president in the movie. Though I don't think they've earned that development and it'd be yet another incident of just using the Blip as a way of excusing development.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 8:53 AM
This is going to flop hard,no one cares for Falcon Captain America,especially after the crappy Falcon And The Winter Soldier.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/2/2024, 9:34 AM
@marvel72 - BINGO! and i hate to say that but it's 100% true
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/2/2024, 9:41 AM
@marvel72 -
Captain America: Brave New World will be a flop
Thunderbolts will be a flop

Disney should scrap them as they could very easily destroy interest in the more grounded earth-based heroes. The brand damage these two films inflict will destroy peoples remaining interest in Superhero films.

The only films that may end up generating an interest are Deadpool 3 for its nostalgia and potentially Fanta5tic in the hopes it'll be better than Fant4stic... though I doubt that.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 11:03 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - They'll release a trailer, that is edited a certain way, the usual suspects will lap it up, saying how great it looks and how it has shut all the haters up.

Then the movie will come out and we'll see it for what it is.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 11:05 AM
@Scarilian - Deadpool 3 and Fantastic Four is all that I'm interested in, maybe Daredevil.

Then nothing until Avengers.

This is the sorry state of the MCU.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/2/2024, 4:54 PM
@marvel72 - that happened to me with Secret Invasion and FATWS. Got all hyped from the trailers and then a MASSIVE let down. This one i already know won't be good, unless some sort of miracle happens
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/2/2024, 7:33 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Exactly I got The Winter Soldier vibes from the Secret Invasion trailer and in the end I gave up after 3 episodes, I just didn't care to finish it.
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