Marvel Comics Planning Major Change To Felicia Hardy's Status Quo In This Week's BLACK CAT #7 - SPOILERS

Marvel Comics Planning Major Change To Felicia Hardy's Status Quo In This Week's BLACK CAT #7 - SPOILERS

Some major spoilers for tomorrow's issue of Black Cat have been revealed, and they feature a major status quo shift for Felicia Hardy that could change how she's portrayed on a permanent basis...

By JoshWilding - Jun 01, 2021 03:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Bleeding Cool

Felicia Hardy, a.k.a. the Black Cat, is a longtime ally of Spider-Man's and one of Peter Parker's former love interests. For many fans, their relationship tops those the wall-crawler has had with Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane Watson, but it doesn't look like Marvel Studios has any plans to reunite them. 

Since their breakup, Felicia has jumped between hero and villain status, but remains one of Spidey's closest allies. In her solo series, Black Cat, the character has recently been dealing with New York City's Thieves Guild. That's meant getting close to the group's leader Odessa Drake, but in tomorrow's issue #7, their relationship - and Felicia's life - looks set to take an unexpected turn.

As Bleeding Cool reports, the comic is expected to kick off Pride Month by having Felicia lock lips with Odessa. 

We don't know if this means the vigilante is coming out as gay or bisexual, but it's certainly as big a shift for Black Cat as when Iceman realised he was a gay man after decades of being portrayed as heterosexual. At the very least, the leaked pages shared by the site indicate that Felicia intends to spend the night with Odessa, which could be an interesting new direction to take Black Cat in. 

"Black Cat's actions of the last few years make her rethink who she is," reads the synopsis for Black Cat #7. "The price of all the things Felicia and the Black Fox have stolen is finally tallied and the bill is due. And when a bill involves items from the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Dr. Strange, Iron Fist and Wolverine, you can't exactly take out a loan."

It's worth noting that Kevin Smith's controversial The Evil that Men Do established that Felicia could be bisexual, but Marvel Comics hasn't referenced that - or the character's rape - since its release.

You can check out those leaked pages by heading over to the site

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GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 6/1/2021, 3:33 AM
Didn't Kevin Smith already make her bi like 20 years ago?
Henchman4Hire
Henchman4Hire - 6/1/2021, 4:23 AM
@GwenLantern - Yes.
IcePyke
IcePyke - 6/1/2021, 3:38 AM
She's a whatnow?!?
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/1/2021, 3:49 AM
I figured they'd make her a man, too bad this won't make people want to buy this series anymore than they do now lol
MG0019
MG0019 - 6/1/2021, 7:59 AM
@bobevanz - based on he headline I was thinking something similar. She pulls an Ellen Page and we’re all supposed to pretend she’s been a man during the entire comic history lol. Black Cat being a lesbian, or Bi, seems on point with that character and not really newsworthy or outrageous.

(BTW, I don’t mind Ellen Page saying she identifies as a man now. I think other people’s reactions get out of hand. In specific, saying we have to treat her past roles as a male actor. Someone said Juno made some kind of history by casting a man to play a pregnant teen. But Page was identifying as a woman then; so no it doesn’t make “history.” In Spider-Context I guess they would say Parker was leaning gay for kissing a guy behind MJ’s back. Not that kissing dudes is wrong; it’s the accuracy of the events that’s my concern.)
FearTheLiving
FearTheLiving - 6/1/2021, 3:53 AM
"when Iceman realised he was a gay man after decades of being portrayed as heterosexual."

Still think this was stupid. Should have made him bi. The whole thing felt super forced and made Iceman a worse character because of it. Basically suggested even though he's fighting for all these mutants that look different and how they should be embraced for who they are all the while hiding himself for however many years. It basically made him into a huge hypocrite, at least with him being bisexual he could have argued it was apart of him but something he never really acted on.

/rant

Sorry if this offends anyone who liked this change I just think Iceman either deserved a better story that really focused on this change given he has been a longtime heterosexual character or take the easy way out and say he was bisexual.

As for the topic I'm fairly sure Felicia has already presented as bisexual or at least have alluded to it. So I'm perfectly find with this but still question why something like this would be built up like it was new or shocking.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/1/2021, 4:01 AM
@FearTheLiving - I thought the two Iceman series explored it quite well.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/1/2021, 4:08 AM
@FearTheLiving - Iceman wasn't really hiding his sexuality though. He didn't realize he was gay until Jean Grey read his mind and told him. So it wasn't a matter of him knowing and purposely hiding it.
FearTheLiving
FearTheLiving - 6/1/2021, 4:11 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I haven't read the latter one fully yet (1 out of 5) so maybe it's explained better as it goes on, but most of what I have read have been pretty much just Bobby learning "how to be gay".

Unless I missed something and you have a particular issue in mind that made the change feel more organic?
FearTheLiving
FearTheLiving - 6/1/2021, 4:14 AM
@CorndogBurglar - She did that to the younger iceman which means it was something he had been thinking about since pretty much joining the X-Men.

Also you're basically saying she read his mind and he didn't know what was in there which doesn't make any sense unless he had full blown amnesia and he forgot he was gay which isn't how it was presented. In the story Iceman makes a flirty comment to Magick and then Jean outs him for not even believing what he's saying.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/1/2021, 4:35 AM
@FearTheLiving - Maybe it’s just that I’ve actually known people like this. 45 years old, married for twenty years, two kids, not hiding their sexuality, they weren’t jerking it to gay porn, they weren’t on the down low, they just weren’t acknowledging it even to themselves, and then one day everything changed, like an epiphany, they are finally able to be themselves when they didn’t even know they weren’t. And despite having relationships with women and decades of sex you wouldn’t really call them bisexual because once they divorce it’s all men all the time. I guess I just thought the Iceman series really nailed what that experience can be like (at least as far as a mainstream superhero comic can) because it can be incredibly sudden, complete change on a dime.
FearTheLiving
FearTheLiving - 6/1/2021, 4:51 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I suppose it doesn't really mesh like that for me given that Iceman is an X-Man fighting for those exact things. If he was just a random solo hero I would be like sure maybe it can work but this would be the equivalent of a closeted man/woman fighting for gay rights but not admitting they are gay themselves.

Not to mention it's not like he was the one that had the epiphany it was a team mate that dived into his mind, outed him, then the two of them go to his older self and force him to accept himself. I'm sure you could make an analogy that it's his older self accepting who he has always been but it just didn't play out that way to me.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/1/2021, 5:05 AM
@FearTheLiving - Well there have been and continue to be LOTS of closeted gay men and women who have fought and continue to fight for gay rights.

And yeah it’s a superhero world, his moment of realization comes in a way that doesn’t exist in the real world. I’m not even claiming that it was the best way to handle it, but it happened, it worked well enough, and now Iceman is going to be more relevant to the X-men that he has in decades, and has been able to tell a story that really only could have been told by a character who everyone thought was straight for a very long time.
Amuro
Amuro - 6/1/2021, 5:26 AM
@FearTheLiving - "The whole thing felt super forced and made Iceman a worse character because of it."

Yeah, I remember that scene in All New X-Men. It was brought out of nowhere and it felt very contrived. Nothing against the idea itself but it just didn't work.

For Felicia, she was represented as bisexual in the past like in the Spider-girl comic book where she was in a relationship with a woman at the time so there is a precedent. Now, it's all about the job of the writer and the artist to make it work.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 6/1/2021, 7:06 AM
@CorndogBurglar - He didn't realize he was gay until Jean Grey forcefully changed his mind and told him.

She changed Beast's mind to make him make out with her, she changed Angel's mind so he'd vote with her to return to the past, then changed her own mind and Cyclops' to escape being sent back.

There was literally zero reason to believe that she just happened to read stray thoughts and passively conversed Ice out of the closet.
SpiderBloke2099
SpiderBloke2099 - 6/1/2021, 11:19 AM
@FearTheLiving - Bendis wrote it, of course it was badly written. Some of the stuff he wrote is good, but looking back on other stuff, it's hot garbage and has no respect for continuity or sometimes, sense.
tripttwe
tripttwe - 6/1/2021, 3:59 AM
Orrrr, and hear me out- We could make a solid story that gives her an interesting arc with unavoidable choices that makes the overall read of Spider-Man comics fresh. No? Okay, my bad. Let's look at this nonsense and act like it matters. (Ugggggghh)
weirdestthing
weirdestthing - 6/1/2021, 4:01 AM
One wonders when they'll get around to messing with Wolverine. That guy has been straight for over a hundred and fifty years, but I think that eventually won't matter to the writers.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/1/2021, 4:03 AM
@weirdestthing -
weirdestthing
weirdestthing - 6/1/2021, 4:05 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - They didn't? Please tell me they didn't.
weirdestthing
weirdestthing - 6/1/2021, 4:08 AM
@weirdestthing - Just googled it. Goodbye, Marvel. You messed with Logan. You're dead to me.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/1/2021, 4:10 AM
@weirdestthing - Hahaha. You should probably check out Hickman's X-Men run. They've been heavily hinting at Cyclops, Wolverine, and Jean having an open threesome relationship.

Yeah.....Hickman's X-Men is just horrible
weirdestthing
weirdestthing - 6/1/2021, 4:15 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Whoever he is. He wasn't a sparkle in his papa's eye when Logan was already a long-time heterosexual. Wait, is this the guy who also made Wolverine's claws flaming?
SuperIronman12
SuperIronman12 - 6/1/2021, 9:26 AM
@CorndogBurglar - That makes sense that they have threesomes haha
AvalonX
AvalonX - 6/1/2021, 11:07 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I'm glad someone said it. I loved his FF and Avengers run but what they have done with X-men is so bad. They arent even the X-men.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/1/2021, 12:05 PM
@AvalonX - Bro, its such garbage. I've been reading X-Men since I was 6. I'm 38 now. They are what got me into comics in the first place. I've always said I would always read X-Men no matter how bad it is because I love the characters so much, and I didn't want to miss a minute of them.

But this is so bad, and the characters are all completely out of character, and they all just totally gave up on the dream and turned their backs on humanity, literally over night to start living like they hippies in a commune. They basically did to humans what they were so upset about humans always doing to them. They judged all of humanity on its worse examples. Something theh always tried to get humans not to do to mutants.

Then, if that isn't enough, nearly every evil mutant they'ce ever fought showed up to praise what they are doing, and that isn't a red flag that maybe they're going down a bad path? When people like Sinister and Apocalypse show up and join you, two of the most straight up evil people they've ever fought that are responsible for so many horrible things, and it doesn't set off a red flag, then I can only assume they are all brainwashed and mind-controlled.

And don't even get me started on the revolving death door being comlletely blown off its hinges.

I just can't....
rebellion
rebellion - 6/1/2021, 4:29 AM
I mean, it was hinted she was bi, so this isnt as terrible as what they did with bobby. I mean, that was completely out of nowhere. If they wanted to retcon his sexuality, they could have given it more thought and more pages. Show bobbys thought process and internal struggles. Maybe have jean talk to him and be there for him over the course of several issues. Instead it was cheap and abrupt and scored a few quick points from the tumblr crowd. But thats comics in a nutshell these days.
Spike101
Spike101 - 6/1/2021, 4:47 AM
Why oh why do characters have to be changed, colour, sex, religious belief? Just leave existing stuff as it is. If people want characters to represent themselves which is understandable then let Marvel create new ones, it’s not hard.
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