EDITORIAL: Making A Successful Justice League Adaptation

EDITORIAL: Making A Successful Justice League Adaptation

Now that it looks as if Man Of Steel is a financial success, DC and Warner Bro’s are looking towards creating a live action Justice League movie in the near future. Hear Mr Sunday’s thoughts on adapting the film after the jump!

Editorial Opinion
By MrSundayMovies - Jun 15, 2013 08:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: youtube.com/mrsundaytosunday



You can watch video embedded below or check out the article transcribed from it below that. Please bear in mind this was created before Man Of Steel hit cinemas and that the video is infinitely better. And by infinitely I mean marginally. Enjoy.



Regardless of when it’s going to happen it’s inevitable that at some point in the near future we’ll be seeing a Justice League film adaptation. The continuing popularity and financial success of comic book to film adaptations assures this and like any pop culture corner stone franchise, fans will flock to see it regardless of the final product.

The Justice League is a hot property, it brings together the most iconic DC characters to battle against all manner of earth and universe based threats, combining the unique skills of each member. From Batman’s intellect, to Superman’s god like powers, from The Flash’s ability to run up behind someone and slap them on the back of the head to the Green Lanterns ability to…make an assortment of hammers to hit people with. People want to see this done, but not only that they want to see it done RIGHT. At this point it’s unlikely that we’ll get origin movies for all members like it was for most of The Avengers, so if that’s the case, what would be some of the ways that could make Justice League a successful movie?

Start With An Established Team
We don’t necessarily need to see a movie that takes the first seventy minutes to painstakingly introduce every character to each other. I don’t need to see Batman meet Aquaman for the first time, they can sort out a best friend secret handshake off screen. The first episode of Star Trek wasn’t Kirk gathering up his crew in a pick-up truck, before making their way to the Enterprise. Probably. And Star Wars just starts in the middle of a space battle. It’s just BAM, here’s your villain, here’s you princess, these are some robots. People can make the leap in their minds that things exist before they’ve seen them. When I see a tree that I’ve never seen before I don’t go WOW! Is that a fully formed tree that just appeared right now? I don’t understand? What’s it’s origin story? I can make the leap automatically in my head that before just now, that tree was a smaller tree, and before that it was some kind of nut or tree egg. Full disclosure, I don’t know much about trees.

Allow The Character’s Actions To Demonstrate Who They Are
You can establish Superman as being the leader by having him guide discussion and call the shots in combat, you can establish wonder woman as a fierce Amazonian warrior by demonstrating her lust for battle, you can establish Green Lantern as the smart arse by having him make fun of Batman for just being an insane person in a bat costume. No one needs to specifically point out “SUPERMAN IS THE LEADER” and “CYBORG IS THE TECHNOLOGY GUY”. Unnecessary. At a pinch, if they wanted to establish each character in a more subtle but obvious way, and I’m not a massive fan of this but it can work, is by having a new member of the team introduced at the beginning and have them be our window in, so that they can ask the obvious questions like hey what’s the deal with J’onn, is he sick? Does he know that his cape collar is seriously restricting his peripheral vision? And why is his name John he looks more like a Glaaarb? That’s essential Ellen Page’s character in Inception, or Will Smith in the first Men in Black. Or Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black 2. Or Will Smith in Hancock. Or Will Smith in Bad Boys 2. Or Will Smith in Ali. Oh dear, I appear to have fallen into that common trap of just naming Will Smith films. Legend of Bagger Vance.

Choose Your Villain Wisely
There’s a highly likely chance that we’ll be seeing Darkseid as the first Justice League villain. But maybe it would be wise to go up against a different kind of villain or villains. Don’t get me wrong Darkseid’s great, he’s a real son of a bitch with many fine capabilities such as matching Superman’s strength as well having an intellect beyond that of Batman. Unfortunately however, we’ll see a similar villain in Thanos in The Avengers 2, which of course will draw comparison. Unfair comparison I might add, Thanos is actually inspired by Darkseid but that’s neither here nor there. So why not do something different, have them go up against something we haven’t seen before, for example possibly The White Martians disguised as a super team as seen in Grant Morrison’s JLA arch, or the Crime Syndicate of America, most recently featured in the animated film Crisis On Two Earth’s. The Legion of Doom might also be a good fit, but there are probably a few too many characters to introduce the first time round. Plus they’d have to include a twenty minute discussion about who let the gorilla on the team.

Pick The Appropriate Tone
Tone is everything. That’s not true. Tone is some things…I guess. Let’s just say tone is important. DC needs to be very careful when selecting a tone as it will obviously carry on into different films, spin offs, tie in comics and novelisation’s such as Batman Forever that exist only to be mocked. Green Lantern made this mistake with its inconsistent tone that I doubt will carry over into quite frankly anything. The Amazing Spider-man is another major comic book movie that falls victim to this. It wanted to be dark and gritty and grounded like The Dark Knight with its sombre tone and mechanical web shooters, but the inclusion of the seven foot tall CGI lizard monster flies in the face of that. Man of Steel however will be no doubt pave the way and it’s looking as if we’re going to be seeing a more realistic take, relatively speaking of course, on this comic book universe compared to that of Marvel.

Know Your Batman
The Batman seen in the Justice League is a very different kettle of bats to what’s been seen previously on film. The Batman of the Justice League is on an entirely different level, he’s gone toe to toe with Superman on multiple occasions, took down an entire team of super powered Martians saving the Justice League and destroyed Darkseid’s physical form. Sure he was sling shotted through time in the process, but hey, swings and roundabouts. The Justice League Batman makes the combined intellect of the Keaton though to Bale Batmen look like a bag of hammers. This is a man whose skills make him good enough to join a team among gods. He’s the most dangerous man on the planet and his character should reflect that. So basically, don’t sit him in front of a computer on a space station with a headset whilst everyone else does the heavy lifting.

Just Don’t Make It
Maybe the best thing DC could do right now is just not make this film. Realistically most people are turning up to see two things, possibly three depending on who you’re talking to. Your Batman and your Superman. So why not just scrap the whole idea and go with a Batman/Superman film as teased in the popular Will Smith film I Am Legend. It’s not like DC couldn’t come back to the Justice League in a few years anyways but this way they’d probably make at least the same amount of money, if not more by putting Batman and Superman in the title. If they wanted to the follow up films could see them introduce new characters a step at a time, starting with Wonder Woman and The Flash and whoever then going on from there. Nobody has really employed this strategy yet and but it could absolutely work. And if they started with Batman and Superman DC wouldn’t be drawing the comparison that they’re aping the successful strategy Marvel have employed. Plus there isn’t a person on the planet who wouldn’t want to see these Batman and Superman come together in a solid live action film. We could finally even see some form of Batman/Superman fisticuffs, something fans have been clamouring to see for years.

I could go on about what I feel would make a successful adaptation, especially now that we’re post Man Of Steel, but I want to hear your opinions about what would make a good Justice League movie. So I ask you, person reading this, what would make a stand-out Justice League film? What villains would you use, which characters would you introduce first and what general direction do you think DC should take? Leave a comment below letting us know your thoughts. And remember, be nice to each other. Thanks everyone, take care.

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TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 6/15/2013, 9:18 PM
If they go with White Martians as villains, and show Batman's epic take down of them in JLA #3 of Grant Morrison's run, I'm gonna scream in the theater!
hoperidesalone
hoperidesalone - 6/15/2013, 9:20 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Justice League Vol: 1: Origin.

There's your [frick]ing script. That entire book plays out like an action movie, and has the pacing of one, to boot. It doesn't waste time on explaining who everyone is, and how they become a team is completely situational.

Read the book, and you'll agree.
WinterAvenger
WinterAvenger - 6/15/2013, 9:20 PM
Just go with a world finest making a justice may be awesome but it's gonna take a long time to be released so yea I'm with a world finest
GreenHalJordan
GreenHalJordan - 6/15/2013, 9:24 PM
I made something like this too just yesterday...lol, nah I'm not gonna bitch or nothing. I like this though, they just better make it right!
Mrsinister
Mrsinister - 6/15/2013, 9:26 PM
TRINITY OF WAR!!! Aqua man Wonder Woman and superman
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:26 PM
Bring it!!!!
Mrsinister
Mrsinister - 6/15/2013, 9:27 PM
Introduce aquaman and wonderwoman. If you've read FLASHPOINT you know how this could work
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:28 PM
OMG! This video is freakin hilarious!!!!!
bazinga85
bazinga85 - 6/15/2013, 9:31 PM
2015-World's Finest or MoS 2 w/ batman
2016-Flash, WW
2017-Justice League(supes, bats, GL, flash, WW, MM, Aquaman) 7 members, you only have to introduce 3 of them bcuz of the previous films, no cyborg
2018-Aquaman
bazinga85
bazinga85 - 6/15/2013, 9:33 PM
Oh, and the GL GLreboot in 2018
GreenLantern519
GreenLantern519 - 6/15/2013, 9:34 PM
Let's be honest, the main reason anyone is excited for a Justice League movie is to see Supermand and Batman on screen together. Don't get me wrong, I love Green Lantern, The Flash and all the rest, but anyone can see that the REAL heavy hitters are Superman and Batman, I think they should make a World's Finest Superman/Batman team up first and THEN go onto making movies for the lesser known heroes.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:35 PM
I am confident DC/WB has a road map now. We need to be patient and wait till SDCC to find out where that map is taking is us.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:36 PM
@ Spidey

Good point, I would crap my pants if I saw Supes and Batman on the main screen. But guess what I would $hit my pants if I saw Supes, Batman, Flash, and WW on the same screen etc.....
StarlordX
StarlordX - 6/15/2013, 9:37 PM
Dont Make it A Nolan Movie, Man of Steel is suffering form that (Even when i like it And Batman Begins)
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:38 PM
@ StarlordX

There is no way the JL could exist in a Nolan type movie. Though Nolan does bring some great stuff to the table, but his role needs to be very limited.
thewolfx
thewolfx - 6/15/2013, 9:40 PM
The should do worlds finest
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:41 PM
Look at this point DC/WB has made up their mind they are going to take a different route with the JL then what Marvel did with the Avengers.

The video made a great point on Star Trek etc... having all its members not having to show all the origins etc...

I personally would not mind seeing the next Supes movie with Bats and a JL short after. Then you can do spin offs from there and introduce more obscure characters.
Scooby
Scooby - 6/15/2013, 9:42 PM
What came first? The tree or the egg?
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 6/15/2013, 9:42 PM
@ BlackLantern

Pretty nice, but hey we need a black Green Lantern John Stuart!!!!
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 6/15/2013, 9:46 PM
"No one needs to specifically point out
“SUPERMAN IS THE LEADER” and “CYBORG IS
THE TECHNOLOGY GUY”
."

Seeing his work in Man of Steel, sadly, that perhaps is what David Goyer will do with his Justice League script. Blunt expository dialogues ahoy.
MBZ1993
MBZ1993 - 6/15/2013, 9:47 PM
honestly batman/superman could work and then make justice league movie based off the cartoon series pilot episode
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 6/15/2013, 9:47 PM
I don't care if the general masses think it's a ripoff, we might only get 1 JL film and I want Darkseid dammit!
hummingbird68
hummingbird68 - 6/15/2013, 9:48 PM
Cool and funny video. I think the world's finest route followed by a couple solo movies.
TayDee
TayDee - 6/15/2013, 9:50 PM
One successful non-batman movie, and you already want them to jump to JL. MOS sequel followed by a World's Finest film & then a JL film.
ultimatemarvelfan
ultimatemarvelfan - 6/15/2013, 9:51 PM
Dude made good points
TheAbomination
TheAbomination - 6/15/2013, 9:52 PM
MOS, followed by MOS 2, followed by World's Finest, followed by a movie featuring a lesser-known DC hero, AND THEN Justice League. And maybe put little easter eggs and cameos in each film leading up to Justice League. Boom. Problem solved.
CeltiC527
CeltiC527 - 6/15/2013, 9:55 PM
@Froggy Hella yeah! Hal Jordan is the best Green Lantern and is the one that should be in the Justice League movie. And EPIC poster man! I still want Reynolds back as GL but if they do recast, Jensen Ackles is a great choice for Hal. Also, who is the actor playing Flash in your poster?
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 6/15/2013, 10:00 PM
Star Trek didn't need to establish the crew's assembly, because...well, they have been assembled under this one bigger organization. It's got a system, so you don't need to flesh that out anymore. Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope did start in the middle of the war, and it also did establish the war as something on going, but the main protagonists still went through staged introduction: Luke started at the farm, then the droids, and then Ben, and then Han. And that's where the fun began. Even The Avengers which has all those solo movies, still realizes that it needs the introductory stage. So yeah, I'd say the Justice League movie still needs that seventy minutes of each character meeting one another.

There's no way, I think, that they won't make a Justice League movie at all, one way or another. Yeah, maybe they'll go with Superman/Batman route, but in the end, it'll still culminate at the same point. They've been warming up for it.

All in all, though, this is a good read; well done. The Hyperclan? Oh, thank you for that, because I'd really love to see them on the big screen.
Jolt17
Jolt17 - 6/15/2013, 10:04 PM
If talking about the plan for a Justice League movie, I've got a whole lot of plan myself...



Will try to complete it soon. :)

Mothchild
Mothchild - 6/15/2013, 10:13 PM
Darkseid does have some differentiating qualities like the Omega beams and all the surrounding characters on Apocalypse not to mention the Anti-life equation. He has a lot of defining characteristics luckily. Also his colour scheme sets him apart.

Having Jonn (MM) on the team will make the JL so ridiculously powerful they will need some major bad guys for that. I would prefer to see Cyborg especially with his teleportation chops (see New 52).

It will be a tricky juggling act for WB for sure.

SDCC should bring some good news :)
C17Swampy
C17Swampy - 6/15/2013, 10:13 PM
2015 MOS2 in the Summer and Wonder Woman in the Fall/Christmas

2016 Batman in the Summer and Flash in Fall/Christmas

2017 Green Lantern and Justice League one in late mid to late April the other in the Summer

Have all three of your weaker franchises (Flash, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern) supported by stronger ones (Superman, Batman and Justice League).

Introduce Cyborg and Aquaman in a film based off Throne of Atlantis. Helps legitimize Aquaman by portraying Ocean Master as a bad ass. Bad ass visuals. Also stays away from the "alien" invasion already done by MOS and the Avengers. If film is well received spin off Aquaman and give him his own film.
113
113 - 6/15/2013, 10:15 PM
Mr Sunday is right.

I hope WB has been listening to CBM message board like this to NOT DO a Justice League movie right away. Do a World's Finest before ever getting to that! It will make just as much money (if not more) than rushed JLA film.

I could see this, with all movies have embedded references to other heroes, not just tacked on end-credits scenes (be different than Marvel!):

-End of 2014: The Flash (rumor is a script is finished - maybe they'll have to rewrite it or start from scratch)

-May 2015: Wonder Woman (someone needs to get on this ASAP)

-End of 2015: Man of Steel 2

-May 2016: World's Finest. Use this film as the reboot of the Batman. We DON'T need another Batman origin story, everyone knows it. And if they dont, Batman Begins holds up very well even a decade later

-Fall 2016: Martian Manhunter deserves his own movie
-Fall 2016: Green Lantern JOHN STEWART deserves his own movie - from the Marine Corps to GL corps could be a very interesting take. Plus, we need diversity on the eventual JLA team

-May 2017: JUSTICE LEAGUE
TayDee
TayDee - 6/15/2013, 10:19 PM
There won't be a Flash or WW movie anytime soon.
MBZ1993
MBZ1993 - 6/15/2013, 10:23 PM
wut about Green Arrow?!
sameoldthing
sameoldthing - 6/15/2013, 10:28 PM
WB/DC Universe films as I want them:

-MOS 2
(Lex & Brainiac.)
-JL 1
(Supes,Bats,Green Lantern,WW,Flash,Martian Manhunter & Cyborg / diversity..fight White Martians that will help intro MM.)
-WW 1
(Ares as villian.)
-Aquaman
(Black Manta)
-Flash
(Grodd as villian.)
-MOS 3
(Bizzaro & Parasite.)
-JL 2
(add Aquaman to JL team..fight Starro.)



KilledHal9000
KilledHal9000 - 6/15/2013, 10:34 PM
I say, after the success of MOS they should do one more, introduce Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor in a sub plot, then a Justice League, spin solo films out of JL film.
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