Marvel TV Boss Reveals Whether Movie Characters Will Still Appear On Disney+; New WONDER MAN Details Revealed

Marvel TV Boss Reveals Whether Movie Characters Will Still Appear On Disney+; New WONDER MAN Details Revealed

Marvel Television boss Brad Winderbaum has talked more about the MCU's approach to storytelling on Disney+, including whether Avengers are off-limits to the streamer. We also have a Wonder Man update...

By JoshWilding - May 13, 2025 07:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Marvel Studios' first foray into streaming was with series like WandaVision and The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Essentially sequels to Avengers: Endgame, they set up major new status quo for their respective leads, but made it so that filmgoers needed to watch what was on Disney+ to fully understand the movies.

As more shows landed on streaming, it became increasingly difficult to keep up, and the quality started to decline. Daredevil: Born Again marked a turning point, both in terms of how it was handled creatively and Marvel Studios' overall approach to television. 

It was recently reported that the plan now is to develop traditional multi-season series, not an endless number of titles revolving around big-name characters from the silver screen. Wonder Man and Ironheart were developed before the shift, and new details about the former have been revealed by The Hollywood Reporter.

The trade spoke to Marvel Television boss Brad Winderbaum at the Disney Upfronts and learned that it will consist of 8 30-minute episodes. It's also said that Marvel Studios will take a "wait and see approach" when it comes to potential second seasons for that and Ironheart (if they're hits, both could be ushered into this new era of storytelling).

"Producing shows with marquee names, it made it really challenging to produce second seasons; the margins on TV are smaller," Winderbaum told the trade. "Looking to the future, does it mean that we won’t have big Avengers names? No. They may not be the titular character of the show, but they can still make appearances."

"You should be able to watch these shows on their own, without knowing the overall MCU story," he added. "But if it’s not connected, it’s severing what makes the MCU the MCU."

It sounds like the bigger name characters can make cameo appearances in future shows, but won't necessarily be put front and centre if there are plans for them in theatrical releases. Hopefully, this means the heroes we meet on streaming can make the leap to the silver screen; that seems less likely given some of the confusion created during the Multiverse Saga.

We'll have to see what happens over the next few years. As of now, Marvel Television has yet to reveal whether any other series will join Daredevil: Born Again season 2 in 2026 and 2027 currently remains a mystery to us.

As always, stay tuned for updates as we have them.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 5/13/2025, 7:12 PM
No Kang series..no Pablo LYLE ...no Hunter Shafer..MCU Is dead?
zeon00
zeon00 - 5/14/2025, 2:01 AM
@Malatrova15 - good
movieguy18
movieguy18 - 5/13/2025, 7:12 PM
I like that approach with the shows. Cameos are solid but don't give big characters shows. Keep them for the movies.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/14/2025, 5:41 PM
@movieguy18 - Yup and worked well for AoS at the start, shame they stopped after Sif, Titular movie peeps should be those benched from their respective franchises such as maybe a Starlord that isn't planned to jump back into films full time (outside cameos/supporting roles).

Flip side D+ characters should also be able to jump to films once their TV roles end, but mostly in supporting/cameos roles such that their is little perception having watched the show they appeared in is required viewing (at least first time they do so anyway).

Ultimately it all needs to be good and any crossovers feel required narratively and not shoe horned in.
asherman93
asherman93 - 5/13/2025, 7:17 PM
Just from the screencap, I'm getting The Weeknd vibes.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 8:33 PM
@asherman93 - same here. Dressed like and hair like the weekend. Has to be an influence on the character a little.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/13/2025, 7:20 PM
Magic mirror on the wall, how far and quickly will Blunder Man's ratings fall?

🪞
BaddestOptics
BaddestOptics - 5/13/2025, 10:32 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - a picture of a black guy in the article is like catnip to you. How many times did you donate to that skank that yelled the n-word at a five year old?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/14/2025, 12:55 AM
@BaddestOptics -

Prove he's 5.

And you're a bigger racist than I am, so don't be a hypocrite.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/14/2025, 12:58 AM
@BaddestOptics -

The kid's mom is a bigger skank than the lady unfairly being threatened.

There is something very wrong with a political organization that rewards stabbing murderers of innocent teens, and encourages hunting down a woman who doesn't like having personal possessions stolen by the ill mannered children of trashy parents.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/14/2025, 1:00 AM
@BaddestOptics -

If a thousand black people yelled a thousand racial slurs at ten White children for ten minutes, you wouldn't bat an eye, would you?
RacialPowerman
RacialPowerman - 5/14/2025, 8:47 AM
@BaddestOptics - I would've donated more if I knew that,damn. Well why the hell would you wait and tell us? What's the matter with you? You suck as a journalist why are you even doing this job?
BaddestOptics
BaddestOptics - 5/14/2025, 8:59 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - look at all the hoops you'll jump through to justify a trashy bitch yelling the n-word at a five year old 🤣🤣 This is why you're alone. You weak ass CRACKER.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/13/2025, 7:21 PM
Again, Disney+ shows should strictly be filler stories or prequels to characters from movies. You can't have a massive earth shattering event like (Secret Wars) exist on Disney+ and expect people to watch it and keep that event in their memory for a movie that you release 5 years later. Thunderbolts* was a breath of fresh air and felt like a return to the MCU formula. Those who saw Brave New World and Wakanda Forever got a continuity plot point continued forward and those who saw Black Widow and loved it got a sort of sequel. But making a movie depend on a show's viewing was a recipe for disaster.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/13/2025, 8:05 PM
@SonOfAGif - Yep. Those filler issues of comics where it's a canon adventure, but not especially consequential to the Big Picture, with rare exceptions.
TheIronDuck
TheIronDuck - 5/13/2025, 9:56 PM
@SonOfAGif - Yelena wasn't really catching on with fans as the new Black Widow until her scenes with Kate in Hawkeye. So, in that respect the tv tie-in did exactly what they needed it to.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/13/2025, 11:32 PM
@TheIronDuck - Yelena wasn't in anything else besides Black Widow and Hawkeye. And Yelena was what people enjoyed about Black Widow when it released.
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 5/13/2025, 7:29 PM
“…if they're hits, both could be ushered into this new era of storytelling”

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/13/2025, 7:41 PM

The Disney folks will get their pandering participation trophies for WonderMan, Ironheart, Eyes of Wakanda cartoon, and Armor wars.

Oh course, very few people will watch any of that.

@MakeAmerecaGrea -

MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/13/2025, 7:55 PM
@DocSpock -

Wow, man.

You said it all.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/13/2025, 8:07 PM
@DocSpock - Don't worry buddy, I'm sure they'll make shows with white leads, too.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 8:15 PM
@DocSpock - lol. Whaaat!?!? It seems like Disney had been pandering to white folks since forever! Making shows for a white audience so they keep the cash flow coming. That’s the more profitable way of doing it. Now they are making shows with other peeps in mind and people call it pandering. So ass backwards of a thought process. They’re probably losing their ignorant-bigot-portion of their audience dollars, which is probably a lot of people. So sorry things changed but I suppose you had a good run.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 5/13/2025, 8:45 PM
@LibraMatter - "It seems like Disney had been pandering to white folks since forever! Making shows for a white audience so they keep the cash flow coming. That’s the more profitable way of doing it."
Well, there you go.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 5/13/2025, 8:46 PM
@DocSpock - and the RT scores all will be 98, 99, 9000.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/13/2025, 9:09 PM
@DocSpock - So Eyes of Wakanda is pandering? It's based off of Black Panther.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/13/2025, 9:13 PM
@LibraMatter - You do understand statistics, don't you?

MINORITY means smaller number. MAJORITY means bigger number.

If you keep throwing 100s of MILLIONS at projects, even if everyone in the MINORITY pays to see it (which they won't) and the MAJORITY doesn't, you will LOSE money over time.

Welcome to 2025 box office numbers.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 9:23 PM
@Batmangina - the point is I don’t think they are pandering. I think they are just trying to create a well-rounded film and show media representation. For everyone to be able to see themselves in what they are putting out. I’m sure at this point they know they aren’t going to make more money with movies and shows with minorities but they do it because it’s the right thing to do. I am a Hispanic man and I truly appreciate that. I don’t see it as pandering to me. Just trying to move things forward so people feel included.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 9:27 PM
@JacobsLadder - To give Disney credit, they are deciding the more profitable way of doing it isn’t the morally right way to do it. It surprises the heck out of me that they keep making these moves but at the same time, I think it’s great. It’s ballsy and good for them(maybe not financially). Maybe they’re thinking of future profits… idk.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/13/2025, 9:58 PM
@LibraMatter - I would have been inclined to agree with you a few years back - but dogshit like She-Hulk and Echo and now Ironheart sure FEELS like pandering - especially after all the bullshit reasons they give for failing. It's never that the content sucks. It's always the racist incels and bigots.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 11:47 PM
@Batmangina - why does it feel like pandering? What makes it feel like that? I liked the Hawkeye show which was mostly Hailee Steinfelds show, Ahsoka, I liked Echo, WandaVision, Ms. Marvel, and Agatha All Along. They are far from dogshit! IMO. I honestly have a couple of theories.

One: there are way less shows that have women(in a genre that is trying to attracted broader audiences), POC or LGBT people as the main characters and when one fails they are automatically all seen as “dogshit”, yet you have a show with a white male lead and it fails, only that show is dogshit, not all white male lead shows.

Two: I don’t think people have honed in on what a great show with POC should look like or a great show with LGBT main characters that people can connect to should look like. It’s a new thing. There will be some good and shit but people will learn how to write for those kinds of characters. A male, straight white character is pretty much been used in so many ways in so many shows throughout so much of the history of tv and movies… writers have had lots to look back on as models of what works.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/13/2025, 11:53 PM
@Batmangina - I forgot to address you last thing. People call people bigots and racist when the show hasn’t even come out and it’s called “woke shit”. Or when the things they are annoyed with in the film are all “woke”. Nothing about the story and how the development of the characters worked or didn’t… just “this is woke”. That’s where the notion of racist bigots are called out. When a comment like “why are gays pushed down our throats” is a comment or “of course they have a black guy, it’s that die bs, so woke”. That’s where the racist bigotry gets called out. When people can just focus on a story and the actions of characters, the writing, the cinematography and the stuff people look at for non-minority films…once “woke” criticisms are thrown out then maybe everyone can talk.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/14/2025, 1:50 AM
@ClintthaManster -

I like good black leads. I just don’t like unimportant junk like these shows.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/14/2025, 1:56 AM
@LibraMatter -

Dear moron. I likegood leads in good shows, not this kind of D-list junk.

A lineup of this junk will hurt the cause of inclusion instead of helping
it when very few people watch it.

Giving them leads in important things is what they should do.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/14/2025, 1:58 AM
@JacobsLadder -

LOL!!
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 5/14/2025, 2:19 AM
@DocSpock - that’s uncalled for. Name calling is a total sign of immaturity. Your points are now just non-sense. Buh bye.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/14/2025, 6:58 AM
@LibraMatter - Compared to the arc of the Cap movies and Infinity Saga, those shows ARE dogshit.

If people can't see the difference, that's on them. If people are okay with a total drop off in quality, that's on them too - I'm not cool with it.

The pandering happens when in the height of the DEI fever that was [frick]ing EVERYWHERE for about 6 to 8 years we get the Legion of Replacement Heroes with all sorts of diversity magically appearing when it was the best possible optics for marketing purposes.

"I don’t think people have honed in on what a great show with POC should look like or a great show with LGBT main characters that people can connect to should look like."

That's the problem - there's NO SUCH THING.

There's either a great show or just a show. The minute the DEI checklist or the Inclusion Police have showed up and made Wonder Man black or the Silver Surfer a chick, you've already lost the plot.

Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 5/14/2025, 7:20 AM
@DocSpock - You're assuming that four (FOUR) shows you haven't seen, that no one's seen, one of which hasn't even started production, are unimportant junk, and the only thing we know about all four is that they have Black leads. But yeah, I'm sure you're just being a sophisticated media consumer.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 5/14/2025, 7:20 AM
@LibraMatter - pandering deserves no credit. Disney is a disgrace and there is no future in any of it. want to know how I know: because all of this shit already failed once in the comics like this embarrassing Ironheart trash.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/14/2025, 10:38 AM
@LibraMatter -

Later snowflake.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/14/2025, 10:39 AM
@Batmangina -

Well said.
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