Was This The Plot Of Roberto Orci's STAR TREK 3 & The Reason He Got The Boot?

Was This The Plot Of Roberto Orci's STAR TREK 3 & The Reason He Got The Boot?

According to sources for Devin Faraci From Badass Digest, the script for Roberto Orci's Star Trek 3 was one of the reasons he was relieved of his directing duties. Hit the jump to check out some potentially new details regarding the film's plot.

By nailbiter111 - Dec 05, 2014 08:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Trek
Source: badassdigest.com
Roberto Orci is best known for writing the screenplays to Michael Bay's Transformers films, Jon Favreau's Cowboys and Aliens, Marc Webb's The Amazing Spider-Man films and J.J. Abrams' Star Trek films - alongside his ex-writing partner Alex Kurtzman. Star Trek 3 was going to mark Ocri's directorial  debut, but as you know from today's new, that is no longer the case. Why is he no longer directing it? Devin Faraci From Badass Digest has been told by his sources that "the script was one of the problem factors," so much so that Paramount shutdown production on the film last month to try to work on "direction of the screenplay."

My sources tell me that the script Orci was working on saw the Enterprise, the Vulcans and a new alien race competing to get a time travel device. The Vulcans want to go back and stop the destruction of their planet, and the time travel schtick is what would allow Chris Pine and William Shatner to share the screen. - Devin Faraci


It is a bit of surprise that the screenplay would be an issue now as Orci announced that he and the Boilerplate screenwriters Patrick McKay and JD Payne had completed it in August.

Orci seemed like a strange choice from the get go. He's never directed anything. Not even a commercial, let alone a big budget Hollywood movie. Though, Orci wouldn't have been the first Star Trek director to make their feature film debut. It was previously done by Leonard Nimoy ("Star Trek III: The Search for Spock") and Jonathan Frakes ("Star Trek: First Contact"), but I would argue that Nimoy and Frakes had some directing experience before taking on a Star Trek film. Nimoy had directed several television episodes for various shows and Frakes had directed 13 Star Trek episodes for The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine & Voyager. You also have to factor in that the actors-turned-directors were much more familiar with the material as Nimoy began playing 'Spock' in 1965 and Frakes began playing 'Commander William T. Riker' in 1987. I think I made my point.
When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organisation has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis. With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction. As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death, love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart, and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS was directed by J.J. Abrams ("Super 8"), from a screenplay written by Damon Lindelof, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. Returning for the sequel are Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Karl Urban, John Cho, Bruce Greenwood, Simon Pegg, Zoë Saldana, and Anton Yelchin. Joined by new cast members Benedict Cumberbatch, Alice Eve and Peter Weller.
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gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 12/5/2014, 8:22 PM
I'm holding out for Mirror Universe
BatmanNews
BatmanNews - 12/5/2014, 8:23 PM
LOL that picture looks like a handyman arnold stwachenagger
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:23 PM
hm...
Kurban
Kurban - 12/5/2014, 8:23 PM
So, does this mean we're not getting Shatner now?
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:23 PM
mayb...
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/5/2014, 8:23 PM
Good riddance, Orci is shit
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:24 PM
shatner...
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/5/2014, 8:24 PM
"So, does this mean we're not getting Shatner now?"
^ second that inquiry
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:24 PM
is handsome....
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 12/5/2014, 8:25 PM
Devin Faraci has previously made the point that Orci basically bullied his way into directing Star Trek 3, constantly using his clout to intimidate and stonewall others from stepping up for the directing gig. Plus, he's a hardcore conspiracy theorist and 9/11 "truther", and he has a history of interacting with fans in a very condescending and douchebag manner, both online and in person.

So basically, he's just a real shitty individual who had no business being in the directors chair. No one should be sad to see him go (though he's still serving as producer, apparently).
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:25 PM
in a certain light...
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:27 PM
...nope still want this
MFLuder
MFLuder - 12/5/2014, 8:29 PM
Bring back Shatner
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 12/5/2014, 8:29 PM
I don't care who directs it, just [frick]ing make the movie!!
santoanderson
santoanderson - 12/5/2014, 8:31 PM
Good lord. No more time travel plots, please.
BoneSawIsReady
BoneSawIsReady - 12/5/2014, 8:31 PM
Yep it would be cooler to have a movie where the plot is Neil Patrick Harris go back in time and tell elementary school Doogie to create Google, eBay, Uber car, hipster glasses, Facebook, and then destroy G. Lucas before he ruins Star Wars. Of course NPH will play ALL the parts.
AnthonyLantern
AnthonyLantern - 12/5/2014, 8:31 PM
Please let Edgar Wright make this movie…PLEASE!
MarkyMarkRises
MarkyMarkRises - 12/5/2014, 8:37 PM
@cinnamon

why not both?


And throw Bones in the mix for play doctor



Wolf38
Wolf38 - 12/5/2014, 8:40 PM
This is a relief, if it accurately gives an idea of what happened. My biggest issues with recent Star Trek films (even back to Nemesis) have been with the writing, so it's nice to think that the studio is actually taking some care with the screenplay.

Anyway, new blood is what the franchise needs. Not sure about Wright, but he could be great.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/5/2014, 8:41 PM
This sucks.

The Star Trek movies are already a cesspit of superficial mediocrity and I was hoping to quarantine Orci there. Now he's loose to screw up some new franchise. He's already shat all over Transformers and Star Trek, what's next?
Jaffi
Jaffi - 12/5/2014, 8:45 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 12/5/2014, 8:48 PM
So what do you guys think?

Are you liking the sound of this *possible* plot?

I honestly don't think it's a bad idea, but the entire story resolving around the Vulcans (no offense @Spocl0Clock ) sounds like they're really holding out for more that could be done within the film. However, I'm a huge time travel fan. :)
tokens
tokens - 12/5/2014, 8:51 PM
@Marky
royroy
royroy - 12/5/2014, 8:52 PM
Oh god...time travel...again.


Look the Borg are out there and probably just got the signal from first contact. So they are on their way. Just do two movies of that setup and final confrontation. I thought I would never say use the Borg...but your "original" storylines suck. So just use what works.

Oh and bring back Q in anyway and you got my money.
MCU4TheWin
MCU4TheWin - 12/5/2014, 8:59 PM
How did this guy get any of these jobs? Only the 1st Star Trek was good, everyone of those other movies are near unwatchable.
McGee
McGee - 12/5/2014, 9:02 PM
If the Shat ain't in reboot Star Trek 3, I'm boycotting this movie...you know...on opening night.
McGee
McGee - 12/5/2014, 9:03 PM
F*CK William Shatner.


Congratulations InfiniteMonkey, you are officially on my shit list!

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Firg

Netman

Blue Waffle

Bender

JoeMomma29

Batz

Gusto

MarkyMark

cinnamon

RebelVulcan

InfiniteMonkey

Roberto Orci

God

Intruder
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 12/5/2014, 9:05 PM
@MCU4TheWin him and Kurtzman keep getting work because they're happy to oblige whenever execs give them "notes", no matter how shitty the notes are. Makes the execs believe they're reliable. It's well known.
WombRaider
WombRaider - 12/5/2014, 9:10 PM
I have a theory that Robert Orci is bald and uses his hand as a wig.

Proof: look at that picture of him.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/5/2014, 9:12 PM
The single paragraph synopsis of these Star Trek reboot plots have never been the problem. In general, I think they're mostly okay. It's the plasticky execution, rambling dialogue, painfully insulting appeals to the lowest denominator, and mouth-frothing desire for more BIGGER explosions and shoot outs and fist fights.

I'm not saying Star Trek has to limit itself to the subdued tone and physicality of the original series. I recently rewatched Wrath of Khan and (while the emotional arcs of various characters and especially Kirk are breathtaking), the meat of the film is slow, plodding, and uneventful. They can still do explosions and fist fights and all that, but it still needs that heart. That emotional journey.

Spock losing his home planet is not an emotional journey. It's an event, at best. Nothing in "Into Darkness" comes close to even that.

And thinking about the 2009 reboot again just makes me more worried about Abrams in Star Wars. Maybe he will be able to build on the great work done on the characters in Empire and Jedi (rather than trying to start from scratch as he did in Star Trek). And now... This talk of Edgar Wright...

Well, he knows his character arcs. He's a sentimentalist, which is essential for the soul of Star Trek. I hope it turns out good. Ideally it will be a fresh break from the first two films, with the Enterprise crew on their 5 year mission, with zero continuity call-backs to Abrams' disasters. That would make me a very very happy Vulcan.
Nick56
Nick56 - 12/5/2014, 9:18 PM
I really hope Shatner still makes an appearance
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 12/5/2014, 9:19 PM
@SauronsBANE- God, what an asshole. There are some directors who have made films I don't like but they at least turn out to be nice people. Orci, on the other hand, is somebody I can now hate as a writer and as a person. Bullying other filmmakers more talented than him so he could get a directing gig he is unqualified for is bad enough on its own. But the most disgusting thing about him is he uses a real life tragedy that killed thousands of innocent people and affected the lives of millions of others as a platform for his irrational propaganda and baseless speculation.

And to make it even worse (which is somehow possible), he shoves in these 9/11-truther themes into a Star Trek movie and turns Starfleet into the bad guys. If Gene Roddenberry were alive today, he would be ashamed. I may not be a Trekkie, but I know well enough to know Star Trek is suppposed to be about how advancements in technology can be used to make lives better and create a more optimistic future and how many civilizations across the universe can work together to achieve peace in pursuit of a universe everybody can be proud to live in.

But Orci says, "Nope! The organization responsible for upholding those ideas is inexplicably evil because I say so and 9/11 was perpetrated by people within our own government."

I hope Hollywood comes to its sense and realize Orci should never be allowed anywhere near a franchise or film ever again. That's a future I could look forward to.
thereaper27
thereaper27 - 12/5/2014, 9:50 PM
[frick] Mcgee you crack me up
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 12/5/2014, 9:51 PM
@CaptainObvious

Don't get me wrong, I agree with 90% of what you are saying about Orci. But I'm not sure I agree with the 9/11 truther accusation.

Yes, there are some superficial elements of "Bush Admin-Inside Job-Iraq War" in it, but there have been political thrillers with similar themes for years. There are elements of that in the Winter Soldier (Hydra creating chaos from within the system to control people's behavior) and so on. Orci may be a truther, but I think Into Darkness is vague enough to avoid being labeled a screed.

If I may speak as something of a Trekkie (though, honestly I came to it late in life), I think there is room in Star Trek for any number of stories, including factions within Starfleet sowing dissension and war (Star Trek 6 explored that). The Post-Roddenberry Star Trek series have always struggled with finding the right tone and purpose. After all, there is no drama without conflict.

My problem with the 2009 reboot has always been that they were just bad movies. Loud, pointless, noise with flashing lights on it and no substance to speak of. If we get to a place where the movies are good, but vaguely betraying the spirit of the Roddenberry legacy, I'll have that conversation then.
LP4
LP4 - 12/5/2014, 10:01 PM
Orci is a condescending dick to fans anyway. [frick] that guy
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