Spider-Man 2 vs The Amazing Spider-Man

We always hear the arguments, which Spider-Man is better? well I'm here to set the record straight. Seeing as we cannot compare TASM to the entire Raimi trilogy, I think it best to compare it to arguably the best one of the three. Find out which one is actually better.

Editorial Opinion
By GuardianDevil - May 08, 2013 05:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: Fenix122

Hello to all, today I'm here to set the record straight on the Raimi Spider-Man vs the Webb Spider-Man. Now, since we obviously can't compare one film to an entire trilogy I'm going to use arguably the best one of the three. I will compare Action, Soundtrack, Casting, Performances, The Villains, and Peter Parker's character development. Here goes:

Oh, and by the way. I'm actually going to do more than post a few random photos and say "AMAZING SPIDER-MAN WINS!!"



Action



Let's start off by comparing the action between the two films, TASM had a few cool scenes including Spider-Man vs Lizard in the sewers, Spider-Man vs Lizard in the school and Spider-Man vs Lizard atop Oscorp Tower. Now, I actually enjoyed all three of these scenes but I think it's obvious that Spider-Man vs Lizard in the school was in fact, the best of the action sequences in The Amazing Spider-Man. Now, let's have a look at the action sequences in Spider-Man 2, first off there's Spider-Man and Dr. Octopus near the beginning when Ock makes the miniature sun. Then Spider-Man vs Doc Ock in the bank, Spider-Man vs Ock on the train. In all honesty and fairness, the action and effects in Amazing Spider-Man were not bad by any means. But, the train scene in Spider-Man 2 is one of the best action sequences in any superhero movie. Period. I mean, just compare any of the action in Amazing Spider-Man to the the train scene and you'll see what I mean. Spidey vs Lizard in the sewers or Spidey vs Ock on the train?? Spidey vs Lizard in the school or Spidey vs Ock on the train? Spidey vs Lizard on Oscorp Tower or Spidey vsOck on the train?? See what I'm getting at??

As far as action goes, the winner: Spider-Man 2



Score

Next, let's compare the score and the soundtrack. Danny Elfman's theme for Spider-Man 2 is also one of the best soundtracks on a superhero movie of all time. Standing right there next to John William's Superman score, Danny Elfman Batman score, and soundtrack from the Avengers. Just watch the scene when Dr. Octopus is about to rob the bank, or when he's about to throw the car through the window at Peter and Mary Jane. The music from those scenes still rings loud and clear in my head. As for The Amazing Spider-Man, well the soundtrack was not bad by any means. But, it was forgettable is what I'm trying to say the theme from Spider-Man 2 still rings loud and clear in my head, while I barely remembered the theme from Amazing Spider-Man. I had to go watch it again just to hear the score. The score for Amazing Spider-Man was utterly forgettable and at times didn't make any sense. I think it's actually quite clear that Spider-Man 2 had the better soundtrack.

As far as the soundtrack goes, the winner: Spider-Man 2



Casting


Next up, I will compare the casting choices from both films. Starting with Amazing Spider-Man. Andrew Garfield was a near perfect choice for Peter Parker, Emma Stone was great for Gwen, and all of the other casting choices were near perfect in my opinion. As far as Spider-Man 2g goes, well Alfred Molina IS Doc Ock. That's one of the best casting choices in a superhero film ever, right next to Heath Ledger as Joker and Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man. However, I thought that where Spider-Man 2 and where the Raimi films failed overall was casting. I'm sorry but, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst were horrible choices for Peter and Mary Jane. I thought that they both did very well under the circumstances, and Molina is the perfect Doc Ock. But, in all fairness Amazing Spider-Man for sure had the better casting choices.

As far as casting is concerned, the winner: The Amazing Spider-Man



Performances

This one will be short because it goes hand in hand with the previous one. I'm going to compare the performances from both films. Spider-Man 2 suffered from bad casting yes, but not bad performances. Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst were both bad choices but they did the very best that they could've under the circumstances and I commend them for that. Alfred Molina is the real star of Spider-Man 2. As for Amazing Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone also gave great performances to match up. Honestly, I'm inclined to say it's a draw in this area.

As far as performances go, the winner: Tie



Villains


Next, I'm going to compare how the villains were handled in each film. In Amazing Spider-Man, Lizard was based off of the older comic book version with no snout as opposed to the far cooler McFarlane one with a gator-like snout. This wasn't the big problem though, the CGI for Lizard was not bad but it wasn't great. Also, Lizard's character development was a bit odd. At the start, Conners was a man who simply was trying to develop a serum to regrow his arm. When he succeeds, he hears that Oscorp is going to test it on people so he rushes after them to stop them. After he had transformed into a Lizard, there was the scene on the bridge when he tried to stop the Indian guy working for Oscorp. After that scene, he retreated to the sewers and at some point decided he wanted to cure everyone and turn them into Lizards. I think what the film was trying to say was that Conners had tasted physical perfection and now wanted to share it with the world. But, it didn't really convey this very well on screen. I understood, because I knew the character but no where in the film did it really convey Lizard's motive for wanting to turn everyone into Lizards. If you don't think about the character you know in the comics, it seems as if he just randomly decides that he wants to turn everyone into Lizards. It's a bit odd...

Now, let's take a look at Dr. Octopus from Spider-Man 2. The CGI for Doc Ock was nothing special as with Lizard, but it was good. Alfred Molina's portrayal of him pretty much blows Lizard outta the water though. Also, Ock's development as a character made a bit more sense. At the start, he was a very kind man who was building a miniature sun to create clean energy. After the first experiment failed, the arms had fused permanently to him which would play a part later on in the film. But, not only that, his wife died. Inside him that day, something just snapped. Later, as the arms had caused him to become increasingly more violent, he turned to villainy in order to complete his experiment, the arms were slowly changing who he was. At the start of the film Ock had explained how he was dominant over the arms, but after his wife died and the arms fused to him they slowly made him more aggressive and dark. Until the very end, when Ock fought with himself to gain control over them one last time to save the city. It was truly epic! I am 1000% more of a Lizard fan than a Doc Ock fan, but let's face facts. The villain in Spider-Man 2 was handled far better than in Amazing Spider-Man.

As far the villains go, the winner: Spider-Man 2


Character development of Peter Parker


Last, but most definitely not least. Pete Parker's development as a character is wildly different in these two films. In Amazing Spider-Man, Pete starts as an irresponsible jerk teenager (which I was okay with, because that's how he's supposed to start) but you see that's my biggest problem with Amazing Spider-Man. Pete doesn't really learn anything, learning from mistakes and making the better of things is what Spider-Man is all about, and is what makes him such a great character to begin with. Amazing Spider-Man failed to showcase this. At the start Pete was irresponsible, he pays for this when Uncle Ben is killed. He should have learned then, but he goes after his Uncle's killer instead of using his abilities for the greater good. Captain Stacy calls him out on this during their conversation at dinner, that he wasn't helping people that he was on a personal vendetta. Pete should have learned then, I was still waiting for it, then Lizard killed Captain Stacy atop Oscorp Tower and Stacy made Pete promise to stay away from her, he had to accept the responsibility of staying away in order to keep her safe. Pete agree, at which I was happy I finally thought that he had learned. At this point it would have been fine, but then he had to just go and ruin it all by saying “Those are the best kind” Breaking his promise, and still hasn't learned responsibility. He didn't learn anything throughout the entire film.

Now, let's look at Spider-Man 2. At this point in Pete Parker's life he had been at the superhero act for a while. Naturally, he had grown bored and thought that the world really didn't need him anymore, he longed for the things he had before and the luxuries, social life, relationships, etc. so, he gives up the mask and costume. Spider-Man no more, but over time he grew as a character and through experiences realized that what Ock said was true that when you have a gift to share with the world, you have the obligation to share it as long as it makes the world a better place. Peter realized that wasn't about his selfish desires and wants and that in order for good to prevail he would have to sacrifice many luxuries. He sacrificed his relationship with Mary Jane for the greater good. (The POLAR OPPOSITE of what Pete did concerning Gwen in TASM) and that was truly epic! Overall, at the end of Spider-Man 2, Pete had gone through a transformation and was different. While at the start of TASM, Pete was irresponsible and at the end, well he was the EXACT SAME WAY. Spider-Man 2 far better showcased what makes Spider-Man great in the first place, learning from mistakes and using them to better yourself.

As for the character development of Pete Parker, the winner: Spider-Man 2


Overall, TASM had better casting for sure. The performances, I ould say were equal. While SM2 had better action, score and development of the characters. Overall the winner is..

Spider-Man 2


Seriously, TASM lovers give me one good reason how TASM is better than SM2 other than Garfield looks cooler than Maguire. Seriously, I know I'll probably get hounded, and attacked. I know I'm in the minority, but I stand by my case. SM2 is better than TASM.

But, go ahead and counter argue if you think TASM is better. By the way thanks for reading and please express your opinion in the comments.
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TonyChu
TonyChu - 5/8/2013, 5:26 PM
Spider-Man 2 all day!
Ocelot
Ocelot - 5/8/2013, 5:30 PM
it's not even a contest spiderman 2 is better than the amazing spiderman, better cast, better villian, better score, better scale, better action, better movie, dont even think that the amazing spiderman is better than raimi's first spiderman film, I found that movie far more interesting
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/8/2013, 5:34 PM
@Ocelot
That sums up my opinion as well, TASM was marginally better than SM3 but quite as good ad the first two.

I thinks it odd that so far, folks are agreeing with me. Whenever I talk about this topic elsewhere on this site, I seem to be the only one. Perhaps that's because on those articles, the writer deletes all comments that disagree...LOL!!
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/8/2013, 5:35 PM
*NOT* quite as good as the first two.
Abary
Abary - 5/8/2013, 5:49 PM
1. Spider-Man 2
2. TASM
3. Spider-Man
4. Spider-Man 3
Ocelot
Ocelot - 5/8/2013, 5:55 PM
@Fenix122 IMO Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man are on the same level, both have problems but I dont think that they're are as bad as people make them out to be, whilst at the same time I dont think both are better than Raimi's first two Spider-Man films. If it's a question of which one out of the two I prefer, then it's spiderman 3, found it far more interesting and entertaining
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/8/2013, 5:57 PM
the chemistry between garfield & stone was better than maguire & dunst,but that is it spider-man 2 is the greatest spider-man movie so far & one of the best comic book movies period.

1st spider-man 2.1
2nd spider-man
3rd spider-man 3/the amazing spider-man as bad & as good as each other.
himynameisnik
himynameisnik - 5/8/2013, 6:12 PM
I think it's unfair to compare the second in the old trilogy to the first in a new trilogy to be honest. In a second instalment you're allowed to have a bit more fun once you've established who the characters are with his origins. I think the more fair comparison is Amazing Spider-Man vs Spider-Man and for me ASM wins.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/8/2013, 6:15 PM
@Ocelot & Marvel72

I like TASM better than SM3 due to the fact that Lizard was portrayed better than Venom. Those two + Rhino are my favorite Spidey villains. Lizard in TASM was better than Venom in SM3, based of that I'd have to say TASM was a bit better than SM3.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/8/2013, 6:38 PM
@ fenix122

i really judge it on the action,the fights between sandman vs spider-man & the gwen stacy crane rescue are top notch,its just bits inbetween the action that are hard to watch.

sandman being one of my favorite spider-man villains,google steve ditko cover to the amazing spider-man 4 its just beautiful.

& i feel the same about the amazing spider-man the action is pretty good lizard was decent as well.

its stuff like the tube train scene,the basketball moment with flash thompson,the cranes all lining up for him,parker on a skateboard,the way he talks to aunt & uncle,mutant mice/rats & vigilante spidey.

uncle ben did seem to live quite a while in this film as well.

FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/8/2013, 7:22 PM
Sequel vs origin story.
This articel is FULL FAIL !
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/8/2013, 8:58 PM
@FreedomFreeLife
It's better than the sh*t you post ;)

@Cipher
I agree with you, and thanks for commenting. I think TASM was not bad by any means, but the first two Raimi films were most definitely superior. And yes, SM2 is one of the best CBMs of all time.

@Marvel72
I can understand that, I never really cared for Sandman but Venom is one of my favorites and I thought the way he was portrayed was pretty bad, while Lizard is another one I love and I thought his was better than Venom. That's the way I judge the two.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 5/8/2013, 9:11 PM
How I would rate the Spidey movies:

1: Spider-Man 2 (A+)
2: Spider-Man (A)
3: The Amazing Spider-Man (B- or a C+)
4: Spider-Man 3 (C or C-)
scootaloo
scootaloo - 5/8/2013, 9:25 PM
How'd I'd rate them:

Spider-Man (A++)
Spider-Man 2 (A+)
The Amazing Spider-Man (A)
Spider-Man 3 (C-)

GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/8/2013, 9:37 PM
@FreedomFreeLife
And if we are asking "which Spider-Man is better?" then you gotta compare it to the best of the three. SM2 is arguably the best of the Raimi films, so yeah these are the ones to compare.
Odin
Odin - 5/9/2013, 2:35 AM
Very good article, Fenix, you rationalize your choices well. Getting a bit tired to this topic.
Lindsey35
Lindsey35 - 5/9/2013, 5:04 AM
Honestly, this isn't fair at all.

If you're going to compare movies, then it should have been 'Spider-Man vs. The Amazing Spider-Man,' but you choose to use the best of the Raimi trilogy. I find that biased and unfair. TASM is the first of it's trilogy, and 'Spider-Man' is the first of its trilogy. Why use Spider-Man 2? Because you want to make the 'original' (eye-roll) look better. Now, I would feel differently if 'Spider-Man 2' were actually 'Spider-Man 1,' but you used 2 and that is not fair on any bases. And how can you judge character development when Peter's first appearance was IN THE FIRST FILM? Does the first movie not exist in this article, humm? BS..............................

Plus everyone looks at Spider-Man 2 as the best Spider-Man movie to date, why compare two things when you already know what everyone's answer is going to be?

I'm going to be completely honest here, I have been wanting to write up an article about how I don't understand why Spider-Man 2 gets so much praise. Really... I just don't understand. But that's just me. I even felt this way before TASM came out and stole my heart (just in case you're thinking of calling me biased to TASM)... Spider-Man 2 has some great action, but other than that I have some major issues with it. I'm being completely honest here.

I tried to watch it one day and got bored and turned it off. Plus some things had me irritated about it. I mean REALLY irritated.



For me, TASM is better than SM2. Sorry, that's just my opinion.
Lindsey35
Lindsey35 - 5/9/2013, 5:09 AM
How do we know TASM will be the best of its trilogy? It's not fair and I completely agree with FreedomFreeLife.
Lindsey35
Lindsey35 - 5/9/2013, 6:35 AM
well, not really biased but...it's not fair. I take that back, sorry bro.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 5/9/2013, 6:35 AM
thought he it was a joke when i saw the article topic no offense but like levi said SM2 is in the top 5 cbm's next to IM1
great article but it's no contest sorry
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 5/9/2013, 7:06 AM
Spider-Man 2 is sure, a great comicbook movie but, I got a couple specific bugs with it. First, Doc Ock. Sure, Molina was great but, what after that? He builds the machine for what purpose? At least with The Lizard, I understood his purpose. He looses his wife and goes nuts with no clear purpose. Plus, they try to make us feel sympathetic for him. Alfred Molina as I said, does a great job but, between no development and Molina's performance, I couldn't sympathize with him. Plus, the score really didn't fit as far as the character goes in the more "emotional" moments". As with Dr.Connors in The Amazing Spider-Man, the score worked in the emotional moments because Rhys Ifans sold us on the character. Sure, loosing an arm isn't as bad as loosing the wife but, I was at least sold on this character and his motivations despite them being cartoony. It's pretty clear, it even should be to the general audience considering that the villain is a giant lizard, there's only one thing he would do.

Character Development: Okay yeah, the relationship for Peter and Gwen was rushed with nothing solid to back it up. Somehow though, I'm able to forgive it because of the performances and the CHEMISTRY between the characters. Something Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst lack. Tobey by all means was never a bad pick, he was a great in all the movies. Spider-Man 3 crying though? Nah. If you watch, Brothers though, he can act and the Spider-Man movies also proved it. Spider-Man trilogy well, both of them are developing the main character throughout the trilogy but in one film, TASM gets the edge cause in Spider-Man 2, he goes through responsibility once again as well as dealing with stress which causes him to lose his powers and learns what it means to be a hero. The only development there really was, was him learning what it means to be a hero. In The Amazing Spider-Man, Peter learns that he's not being a hero, he's looking for revenge. After he saves Jack in the bridge scene, he realizes he must be a hero and save villains from villains like The Lizard. He also learns responsibility which, people try to argue he doesn't cause of the promise he broke at the end of the movie. Technically he never promised, the only thing that tells us he did was when he broke up with Gwen and only to whisper to Gwen "but those are the best kind". The development for Peter though as well as the rest of the characters in The Amazing Spider-Man made more sense to me and this is coming from someone who grew up loving/still loves the original trilogy.

Action: Spider-Man 2, hands down. Although, I prefer the high school fight over the subway fight.

Score: Elfman's was exciting but, never felt like Spider-Man. James Horner's score was heroic, exciting and had a great deal of emotion to it and personally, both themes ring loud in my head still. For me on this, it's just about preference.

Overall performance from the cast: Spider-Man 2 suffers from Kirsten Dunst, and an average Molina. I love Alfred Molina but, he didn't bring much if anything to the role of Otto Octavious. From all the cast members. Rosemary Harris, Tobey Maguire, Cliff Robertson, James Franco and J.K Simmons was really the saving grace to these films and why they don't fail in the acting department. The Amazing Spider-Man had outstanding performances from all cast members and the chemistry between them is (no pun intended) amazing. Overall performance from the cast, this one wins no doubt.

Overall product: Spider-Man 2 is a fast paced, action summer blockbuster with more character development than most but, suffers from lack off good performances among the cast, the CGI hasn't held up well and a villain whose motivations are still unclear. It has a lot of hear and tries but, never fully realizes its potential. The Amazing Spider-Man is another fast paced, summer blockbuster with tons of heart. The CGI, the outstanding performances from the great cast and amazing chemistry between the cast members. Villain's motives are cartoony but, what do you expect from a giant lizard. The plot is very simple and we are retold the origin. Outside from those two things, you have to keep yourself in disbelief cause let's face it, it's a comicbook movie and there's a scene where Peter bends a field goal post from throwing a football. Everything Spider-Man 2 does well or average, The Amazing Spider-Man does it better.

Final verdict: Spider-Man gets an 8/10 while The Amazing Spider-Man gets a solid 9/10. Although, the former is the more popular of the two.
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/9/2013, 7:10 AM
"He should have learned then, but he goes after his Uncle's killer instead of using his abilities for the greater good."

Funny, but you must be talking about old Raimi Spider-Man movie. First, Spider-Man went after first criminal and killed him. Later he went after Sandman and tried to kill him too. So, did he learn anything? NO, TOBEY SPIDERMAN DID NOT LEARN NOTHING


"This wasn't the big problem though, the CGI for Lizard was not bad but it wasn't great."

"Dr. Octopus from Spider-Man 2. The CGI for Doc Ock was nothing special as with Lizard, but it was good."

He is saying Doc Ock CGI was better than Lizard? Yet Lizard looked better than Avengers hulk.
This articla is very biased
FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife - 5/9/2013, 7:12 AM
Doc Ock had no purpose but Lizard had purpose and it had 100% SAME STORY IN COMICS AND IN ALL CARTOON.

Follow comics = shitty movie.
This is what Fenix122 is saying. Fenix122 is saying that movie based on comics, thats why it had no purpose and failed so hard(TASM).
This article is a joke!
Spideyguy94
Spideyguy94 - 5/9/2013, 8:24 AM
I'd say spider-man 2 is still the best spider-man movie IMO. Though I do like Garfield more than maguire, not that I think maguire is bad I think he's brilliant in spider-man 2 but I think Garfield gives a better performance. What's letting him down is Sony screwing around too much with the movie.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 5/9/2013, 8:30 AM
Character development. Defiently goes to TASM
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 5/9/2013, 9:00 AM
Just by saying TASM fanboy comes off extremely biased. I'm sure you're not so I suggest you remove that!
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/9/2013, 9:25 AM
at those moaning about comparing spider-man 2 with the amazing spider-man.

easy look spider-man is better than the amazing spider-man.
Odin
Odin - 5/9/2013, 9:50 AM
@FreedomFreeLife Few things:
-"Doc Ock had no purpose", so your saying the the movie would've been all the same, if Doc Ock hadn't been in the movie.
-"Lizard's story is 100% same as in comics and cartoons", yes that was his masterplan(turning all humanity in to lizards) in the first ep of Spiderman TAS, but please show me comic book where he is trying to do the same(not that I wouldn't believe you, I just haven't read that story).
-Peter didn't kill Dennis Carradine(the robber) in Spiderman 1, if you watch the scene you see that Carradine, while trying to get away from Peter, stumbles on metalpipe sticking out from the floor, and falls out of the window all by himself. Peter only disarmed him.
-When Peter was trying to kill Sandman he was under the symbiotes influence, it was explained in the movie and it's also directly from the comics, it's also a fact that you keep ignoring.
-Article is not a joke just because you disagree with the author.
-You are the last person on this site to call someone's editioral a joke.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 5/9/2013, 10:24 AM
At feenix122, i think you should of compared spiderman 1 and the amazing spiderman. I feel like Toby did a great Peter before he got bitten but he wasn't a good spider-man.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 5/9/2013, 10:27 AM
And spider-man 1 was good but a little too cheesy
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 11:09 AM
@FreedomFreeLife
You're missing the point, It doesn't matter that Pete in SM1 also went after the guy who killed his uncle. Because he actually learned responsibility later on....

Peter Parker didnt learn ONE {FRICK}ING THING IN TASM.

@Lindsey
It is fair. People always ask, "which Spider-Man is better?" you have to compare the best that each has so far.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 5/9/2013, 11:15 AM
@fenix122 actually Peter did learn something in TAS. During the meal of the stay family Peter and the viewer believes that spider-man is doing the right thing but as it progresses Peter and the viewer realizes that he is just looking for revenge and is still not a hero.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 11:23 AM
^^ at the start of the film, what is Pete? An irresponsible teenager, what was he at the end?? The exact same thing, if he did learn responsibility. He did not retain it.

Like I said, I thought he had learned when Captain Stacy died. But then he had to ruin it all by saying "but those are the best kind"
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 5/9/2013, 11:29 AM
@fenix saying Peter didn't learn anything in TASM is just ignorant. Peter learned responsiblity and is a much much more fleshed out than raimis film. Peter is actually a flawed character who displays teenage problems and is irresponsible as hell. That's the whole point of spider-man he is suppose to be irresponsible. Thus " great power, responsiblity" is a major theme. Peter becomes SPIDER-MAN at the End of the film, just how tony became iron man at the end. They both realize, they are heroes and become thier alter egos. They both wore the suits and went on the journey to stop the bad guy, but they never thought of themselves as the "savior" they were just trying to clean their slate or fix the problem they created.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 11:35 AM
Like I said in the article, I asked all the TASM lovers how it was better and to give me one good reason. (FreedomFreeLife, Lindsey, Teabag, Spidey31, Crossbones)

Crossbones is the only one that's even come close.

@Crossbones
Sorry bro, but nowhere in TASM was there any reason for Lizard to want to turn everyone into lizards. In SM2, Ock was working on his science project when his wife died and then he continued to work but the arms were slowly gainjg control over him and he became increasingly more violent. It made sense and explained why..., in TASM, Conners regrew his arm like he wanted, then he chased after Oscorp and then retreated to the sewers and then somewhere along the way he decides that he wants to turn everyone into Lizards.

I understood his motivation, because I'm a fan of his from the comics. But, nowhere in the film did they say why he wanted to turn everyone into lizards. It seems as if he just randomly decides to....

And honestly, I don't see how you can say Horner's score was better than Elfman's score. That's like saying Horner's score was better than John Williams Superman.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 11:56 AM
@Spidey31
Because he really didn't learn responsibility. After the whole film, two of his loved ones have died. And Captain Stacy asked him to stay away from Gwen in order to protect her. But does he??? No.....he still hasnt learned responsibility at the end of the film.
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