SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer Says It Was Harley Quinn's Movie Before Warner Bros.' "Re-Engineered" Cut

SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer Says It Was Harley Quinn's Movie Before Warner Bros.' "Re-Engineered" Cut

David Ayer may have given up on the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad ever seeing the light of day, but he's still being asked about the movie and reveals that Warner Bros.' changes did Harley Quinn a disservice.

By JoshWilding - Jan 12, 2024 02:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad
Source: Yahoo Movies

Following the release of Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom last month, the DCEU officially reached its conclusion. DC Studios' DCU reboot beckons but one of that franchise's first noteworthy critical flops - 2016's Suicide Squad - simply will not go away. 

Despite not boasting a fanbase quite as passionate as those who demanded Warner Bros. #ReleaseTheSnyderCut of Justice League, there are plenty of people who would love to see the studio #ReleaseTheAyerCut. In recent months, we've seen filmmaker David Ayer lend his support to James Gunn's plans, suggesting on multiple occasions that his version of Suicide Squad will eventually see the light of day. 

As you'll likely recall, Warner Bros. is believed to have butchered Ayer's vision for the movie after the negative response to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice left executives wondering whether the DCEU's darker tone was working (hence why Aquaman and Shazam! were both more in line with an MCU movie). 

Something changed this month and Ayer finally threw in the towel on social media. Even so, he hasn't been able to escape questions about his ill-fated DC movie while doing the round to discuss The Beekeeper and has told Yahoo Movies about what the studio's interference meant for Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. 

"The ending. The whole third act was re-engineered," he started. "It was really Harley's movie and seeing her make the decision to choose healthy friendship and support over an unhealthy relationship, and make the decision to leave that relationship."

"To have that removed from the film really distorted her character and brought an immense amount of slings and arrows upon my head," Ayer added. "And no one has ever apologised for it."

He's likely referring to the fact that, in his cut of Suicide Squad, Harley was going to choose to leave The Joker behind for her Task Force X teammates (and a possible romance with Deadshot). The Clown Prince of Crime was cut from the final battle and instead broke Harley out of Belle Reve, resuming their abusive relationship.

Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey ended up closing the door on that romance, but it's easy to see why Ayer is frustrated. 

Earlier this month, Gunn was asked whether Robbie's Harley has a future in the DCU. "I haven’t talked to Margot about Harley for a long time," the DC Studios co-CEO admitted. "But I’d love to work with her again as Harley or as someone else. There are no plans at this time for anyone else to play Harley (I mean, other than in Todd’s movie or the animated show/s.)"

Should Warner Bros. #ReleaseTheAyerCut of Suicide Squad or is it time to move on?

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dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/12/2024, 2:37 PM
Maybe you could've written a reason for her to be in the squad that made sense, if that wasn't there before.
Origame
Origame - 1/12/2024, 3:06 PM
@dagenspear - ...she can kick a$$. What else were you expecting?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/12/2024, 3:41 PM
@Origame - A story that would make sense to have the apparent main character in it based on the story as developed.
Origame
Origame - 1/12/2024, 3:49 PM
@dagenspear - ...she was. Even in the cut we got she was one of the main characters.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/12/2024, 3:59 PM
@Origame - No it doesn't. She's a crazy chick with cool fighting and a baseball. You could get a far more coherent criminal with similar skills in the real world. It's a massive blunder to get crazy lady on a team with snipers and such. The story doesn't make sense to have her specifically in it.
Origame
Origame - 1/12/2024, 4:56 PM
@dagenspear - thats highly debatable. And entirely incorrect. We see her pretty easily taking on the incubus eye soldiers easily. Said incubus eye soldiers completely took over the city. Why didn't any of those criminals all through the city not just fight those eye soldiers off if they were "more impressive" than Harley?

Who do you think in the real world is more impressive than her?
StSteven
StSteven - 1/12/2024, 5:45 PM
@Origame - Um, Taylor Swift? Oh, wait, you weren't talking to me. Sorry, I'll shut up now (but for the record she DOES have a standing army, so, ya know, there's that 😉).
Origame
Origame - 1/12/2024, 5:54 PM
@StSteven - wait, Taylor swift is a criminal? Didn't know bad blood was a documentary!
StSteven
StSteven - 1/12/2024, 6:16 PM
@Origame - Oh ho ho, you had better believe it my friend. In fact, I posted a comment in the article from a week ago about the new Ghost Rider being revealed as being a supervillain in which I laid it all out:

"Taylor Swift. It's gotta be Taylor Swift. I mean no one who makes that much money in one year is NOT a supervillain (see: Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, and the entire cast of "Friends" in the 90s). And look at what she's done to poor Travis Kelce. He's completely f**ked (and not in a good way). With her hordes of parademonic tween "Swifties", she's nigh unstoppable. I shudder to think of what would happen to Travs-Travs if he *shudder shudder* forgot her birthday. Or, God forbid, break up with her (I don't know for sure, but I think it would be something like the scene in "Wickerman" with Cage and the bees, but with Travis shouting "No! Not the Swiftees!!!!".

And in case there's any doubt, she has a new single coming out called "I am Legion" (don't bother searching for it - you can only currently find it on the Dark Swifty Web and trust me, you DON'T want to go there *shudder shudder*)."

'Nuff said.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 1/12/2024, 2:38 PM
warner perhaps should let him realese so he can shut up
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/12/2024, 4:04 PM
@Superheromoviefan - not because to shut him up. it's to prove Ayer had a better film in store yet WBs f-ed it up due to panic we-gotta-match-Marvel's-GotG.

Oh. Now they hired that dude to take the lead in DC.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 1/12/2024, 4:20 PM
@lazlodaytona -
no offense, but it wasnt good to begin with. maybe his movie was ok and wb made it bad
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/12/2024, 4:39 PM
@Superheromoviefan - how do u know it wasn't? proof?

I have a close friend who was a worker on that film and he's told me Ayer's version was way-beyond-different. Apparently, after BvS and then the dark comic-con trailer for SS (which thought was awesome) WBs turned on a dime and thought "we GOTTA make SS like Guardians of the Galaxy."

frickin idiots
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 1/12/2024, 5:03 PM
@lazlodaytona -
proof? snyder ccut
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/13/2024, 2:16 AM
@Superheromoviefan - loved the Snyder cut. are you hating just to hate?
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 1/13/2024, 2:27 AM
@lazlodaytona -
it just wasnt good.
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 1/12/2024, 2:44 PM
i hope wb release it so he can see that his cut is as bad as the theatrical cut.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/12/2024, 4:01 PM
@ImNotaBot - it will not be. his original cut was WAY better than the sh1t WBs meddled with.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/12/2024, 2:47 PM
If I were Patty Jenkins, I would go on a tour claiming that Wonder Woman 1984 was ruined by the studio and that she should be allowed to release a Jenkins Cut!!! Everyone would believe her and she might be able to rehab her career.
grif
grif - 1/12/2024, 2:47 PM
lol then it sounds like we got the better movie..case closed



WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/12/2024, 2:57 PM
When did that farkakte movie come out? Dude, just move on. Focus on the Beekeeper move. God...
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 1/12/2024, 2:58 PM
People need to stop asking him these same questions over and over again
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/12/2024, 3:02 PM
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 1/12/2024, 3:13 PM
Didnt she kind of have this realization in the theatrical cut anyway? I thought there was a point (maybe that bar scene or the helicopter scene aftermath?) where she chose the team and realized joker didnt care about her or something?
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 1/12/2024, 3:14 PM
… or maybe Im misremembering and confusing it with BOP
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/12/2024, 3:37 PM
@ReverseFlasher - Not realy, she kinda chose Joker over the team then he pushed her out of the helicopter, hardly her choice, then even after that was pleased to see him again when he broke into her cell to rescue her.

Not saying there wasn't points of questioning where her loyalty lies and siding more with the team that suggested that was the direction she was heading down but the final cut came off more as would always ultimately choose Joker over them no matter what he did to her.
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 1/12/2024, 5:31 PM
@Apophis71 - thanks, yeah I think it was in BOP she was saying she’s over him.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/12/2024, 11:32 PM
@Apophis71 - wait I thought she fell and he tried to grab her? Then he rescued her at the end. I think you may be remembering the trailer. Ayer said in his cut he pushes her out but theatrical cut she fell after the helicopter is shot down
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/12/2024, 3:17 PM
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/12/2024, 4:18 PM
@DrReedRichards -




DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/12/2024, 4:30 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/12/2024, 4:33 PM
@DrReedRichards - Lol. Literally THE perfect meme for this. Plus it's made using my FAVORITE animated movie of all time, so thats a plus... and i also read it in my head using his voice, which made me laugh wayyy to much lol
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/12/2024, 4:40 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

Lol, I know mate. It's one of the best old memes, a classic, so I was itching for an excuse to dig it up. Ayer's overplayed shtick just calls for it, you know? And yeah, Incredibles are also among my favourite animated movies of all time, or obvious reasons.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/12/2024, 6:29 PM
@DrReedRichards - honestly never seen this meme til u used it but it couldn't be more perfect.

Let's be real here. Incredibles is exactly what the new F4 movie should strive to be
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 1/12/2024, 6:48 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

...hence why I said "obvious reasons". 😉👌
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/12/2024, 7:33 PM
@DrReedRichards - ohhh I know 100000% what u were getting at. I was stating the obvious for those reading this haha
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/12/2024, 3:29 PM
He said he would stop talking about it lol. Can’t help himself, actually almost sad
The1st
The1st - 1/12/2024, 3:53 PM
@GhostDog - This.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/12/2024, 4:08 PM
@GhostDog - I mean, a film probably takes no less than 3 yrs to complete.
To put all that time in and then to have your studio f-up the very project you've dedicated ur life towards for 3+ years?

Yup. I'd keep talking too. F u WBs
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/12/2024, 4:47 PM
@lazlodaytona - I totally understand the frustration but you’ve got to move on at some point. And his words, he said he would stop talking about it, he’d accepted it.

It’s tough but holding onto this too long is detrimental. He could pour that angst into a really big movie.
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