Henry Cavill's JUSTICE LEAGUE Co-Stars And BLACK ADAM Producers React To His Time As SUPERMAN Ending

Henry Cavill's JUSTICE LEAGUE Co-Stars And BLACK ADAM Producers React To His Time As SUPERMAN Ending

Comic book fans have been left reeling by the news Henry Cavill is done as Superman (weeks after announcing his return), and some of his co-stars and colleagues are now weighing with their commiserations.

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By JoshWilding - Dec 15, 2022 06:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Just days after Black Adam arrived in theaters with a mid-credits scene featuring Henry Cavill's Superman, the actor took to social media to announce his return as the Man of Steel. That came right before the actor embarked on a press tour for Enola Holmes 2, resulting in him fielding many questions about his future hopes for the hero on screen. 

Even after James Gunn and Peter Safran were named DC Studios co-CEOs, the expectation was that Cavill would continue playing the new DCU's Superman, with rumblings about Warner Bros. fielding Man of Steel 2 pitches. 

Since then, it's been revealed that Cavill was told to share the news of his return without actually being signed up to star in any upcoming projects. Meanwhile, that sequel had not been given the green light, prompting us to wonder what Warner Bros. was thinking by "officially" bringing the actor back right before hiring Gunn and Safran to reboot the DCEU. 

Regardless, the news has hit fans hard, but they're not the only ones expressing their disappointment.

Aquaman actor Jason Momoa was first to comment on Cavill's farewell post saying, "love u brother" along with a few heart emojis. Shazam! star, Zachary Levi, added to that by saying, "hope to catch you in another universe, sir."

Black Adam producer Dany Garcia, who played a pivotal role alongside Dwayne Johnson in enlisting Cavill for that movie, chimed in with, "You are and will always be our Superman and you are, of course so much more. Here's to the brilliance that lies before you."

Hiram, Dany's brother, also a producer on Black Adam said, "You will always be the Superman of our generation brother. Always."

Christopher Lloyd, Kumail Nanjiani, Quintessa Swindell, and even Cavill's girlfriend, Natalie Viscuso, also shared their commiserations, and we're sure the actor is feeling pretty hurt by this decision. We don't know whether he quit The Witcher specifically to play Superman again, but after the excitement surrounding his comeback, being let go in this way must sting.

Gunn and Safran starting from scratch with Superman suggests we're getting a huge reboot, so we're sure Cavill won't be alone in receiving bad news in the coming weeks...

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WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 12/15/2022, 6:45 AM
I like Cavill as Supes but sometimes you’ve got to slash and burn to rebuild.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/15/2022, 6:48 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - But we still got Flash coming and Aquaman 2 a year away?

WB are focused on saving and making money with all their tax write offs and restructuring of DC, this clean slate is surely going to have a negative effect on how they try to promote those movies.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/15/2022, 7:25 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - everybody is acting like this is a wake lol. He was used poorly, but too much time has passed. After Flashpoint, everyone is gone and it's for the best
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 12/15/2022, 9:12 AM
@bobevanz - shit or get off the pot as it were. There was a lot of opportunity to get it right after the JL fiasco. WB seemed to set the tone but maybe there was some hesitation to go back on Cavill's side too.

We're all acting surprised that this wasn't going to happen but with the series of unfortunate events leading up to this, it makes sense
supermanrex
supermanrex - 12/15/2022, 9:27 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - they did him dirty and you know it!!
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 12/15/2022, 9:31 AM
@supermanrex - Cavill was noticeably absent. All eyes point to WB but Cavill was also working a bunch. The kerfuffle with JL obviously didn't help the relationship. His decision to enter into a series may have been driven by that
Conquistador
Conquistador - 12/15/2022, 6:45 AM
Not going to lie, that one hurt, I can only imagine how Henry feels after the long back and forth and finally being given the go ahead to confidently announce he’s back” urgh, gut punch. Just goes to show that DC was still a huge mess post Black Adam release and that was just a move from the exec’s to drum up more excitement to get more money from the box office…Still though, the guy has always been a gentleman and his statement was well measured. I highly doubt Henry will want to jump onto another comic book property or work with DC ever again after all this.

I think it will be safe to say that The Rock is out, and Ezra will be out after the Flash comes around. I just wonder though, if they’re wiping the slate clean, how on earth are they going to promote the movies that are already deep in post-production and get a profit? I can only guess they’re going to have to construct a narrative that it’s the finale for these guys.

Well, I still look forward to seeing what the heads of DC do with the new direction. I can only hope as a fan that maybe one day we get a kingdom come movie or infinite crisis with the older cast in about 10 years or so. Maybe Henry’s wound would have healed by then, but I doubt he’ll want to even think about DC anymore.

The Rock was right though…. the hierarchy of power in the DC universe HAS changed….. :)
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 6:46 AM
They're all gonna be gone too by the looks of things. Gunn cannot afford any woke casting at this point for his DCU, he's on the bad side of a lot of fans atm and if he makes his new Superman so much as have brown eyes instead of blue let alone raceswap gender bend and all the other shenanigans modern Hollywood likes to use to virtue signal, he's going to end up begging for Cavill to come back.
HeeroG
HeeroG - 12/15/2022, 7:06 AM
@Chaos200 -
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 12/15/2022, 7:07 AM
@Chaos200 - What the hell are you talking about lmao
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 7:11 AM
@HOTSHOT - wHat tHe hElL aRe YoU tAlKiNg aBOuT
Unless you're 10 years old living under a rock you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 7:13 AM
@HeeroG -
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 7:19 AM
@Chaos200 - its funny. Nothings even happened yet and you’re already bitching about virtue signaling.
You’ve got a problem and its not the casting in comic book movies.
IronMan616
IronMan616 - 12/15/2022, 7:27 AM
@Chaos200 - From Superman to SuperThey/Them
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 7:27 AM
@philinterrupted - Bro how many [frick]ing times does it need to happen before it becomes a recognised pattern? I didn't even say Gunn is virtue signaling, I'm saying he can't afford to like 90% of the industry does today, he will undoubtedly feel a kind of pressure to do so since we've had so many similar Supermen too. So my comment is very relevant. I have got a problem you're right, it's pandering pseudo progressive non sensical "creative" decisions being forced into entertainment with no logical thought or reason.
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 12/15/2022, 7:39 AM
@Chaos200 - managed to get Woke and Virtue Signalling in. Congrats. Really should have crammed SJW in there somewhere to, really sell the nonsense
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 7:47 AM
@Chaos200 - you’ve missed my point. Gunn hasn’t done anything. You getting all worked up over nothing.

What exactly are you holding on to anyway?
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 7:57 AM
@philinterrupted - Perhaps I should've prefaced it by saying "however" or "in any case" or "to talk about casting the new superman for a second" my segue not good enough for ya?

@Twenty23Three - Ok....you're an SJW.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 8:41 AM
@Chaos200 - they haven’t cast a new superman yet. What exactly has gunn done to get you all pissy about this new superman?

Again. What are you holding on to?
Supercat6376
Supercat6376 - 12/15/2022, 9:02 AM
@Chaos200 - Preach. Cant even watch willow without being pandered to.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 12/15/2022, 9:28 AM
@Chaos200 - Woke casting at WB has been going on before Gunn came along. Inclusivity is part of the film industry now - deal with it. Diversity in filmmaking is fine it as long as it's not shoe horned in or pandering. Women should be leads. POCs should be leads. Who cares what race the character is or whether it lines up with the source material. Are they the best person for the job? WW was awesome. Nick Fury is SLJ and SLJ is Nick Fury. Majors is and will be great as Kang same with Mateen as Manhattan and Wonder Man. As long as the story is there and it's a fun ride, I dont give a flying frog's fat ass
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 9:30 AM
@philinterrupted - I guess you just came from the universe where theories, inferences, assumptions, guesses & logical conclusions don't exist?

We have had a slew of uninspired inaccurate castings based on politics and diversity quotas in entertainment the last 8 years or so. Henry Cavill, arguably the most perfectly cast Superman in appearance since Reeves has just been fired and now Gunn wants to make a new Superman movie, we are DEEP in a diversity quota world and it is heavily encouraged that Hollywood cast characters that are non straight and/or white, male as something else EVEN if their source material counterpart is a straight white male. So the LOGICAL CONCLUSION, the INFERENCE, the ASSUMPTION, the THEORY is that Gunn EVEN IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO might be pressured to do pseudo diversity woke casting for his new Superman movie and doing an inaccurate Superman after so many fans loved Cavill would be an interesting test in "how dumb could I go with this decision to fire him".

tl'dr for intelligent people...
I'm not saying Gunn is going to. do woke casting on Superman but based on the current political entertainment climate he might and it would be a tough sell after getting rid of the perfect Superman.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 9:44 AM
@Chaos200 - look be made about things that have happened if you want. Whether I agree or disagree is irrelevant. But to get all worked up about something that hasn’t happened is incredibly silly.

Thats my point. Full stop.

All they did was announce they’re moving on from Cavill. He wasn’t the first Superman and he’s far from the last. Complaining about them doing woke casting is a waste of breath at this point. BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T CAST ANYONE!!!!!!

What are you holding on to?
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 12/15/2022, 9:44 AM
@Chaos200 - congratulations. You win embarrassment and shame from your family
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 9:48 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - "Woke casting at WB has been going on before Gunn came along."
Yes that's exactly my point.

"Inclusivity is part of the film industry now - deal with it."
Inclusivity for inclusivity's sake is not how to create a good product.
"Diversity in filmmaking is fine it as long as it's not shoe horned in or pandering."
But it is all those things though, Michael CLarke Duncan wasn't pandering because he was large like Kingpin they didn't care for his race, SLJ as Fury wasn't pandering because he already existed in the Ultimate comics, his look was based on SLJ so it was kinda a no brainer, those are called creative casting choices.

Why was Jonathaon Majors casted instead of someone who better resembles Kang? Why was Mateen casted instead of someone who better resembles Wonderman? TBF there was a creative reason why Mateen was Dr Manhatten in Watchmen that had to do with race but it was still weak because they didn't really address it or say anything interesting with John Osterman deciding to do black face.

Problem is there usally is no story and it's usually not fun once they start trying to be woke rather than trying to make a cohesive solid product. When it comes to the visual medium the aesthetics are just as if not more important than the plot, what we see informs the audience of so many things. You wouldn't have an Iphone in a medieval setting, you wouldn't have someone fly without it being explained why in a story set in the real world and you wouldn't have white people or black people in feudal japan or ancient china. All of those things can drastically change the feel and tone of whatever you're trying to create, you have to make it feel AUTHENTIC to the audience before you try and be inclusive. If these people really cared about being inclusive and having diversity they would organically include POC characters in the plot and story rather than just race/gender change characters or have black elves and wizards in fantasy medieval England as if black isn't a race in of itself in that world.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 10:01 AM
@philinterrupted - I'm not worked up I was making a statement. So I'm only allowed to talk about Cavil's exit? Not anything about the new SM movie? So are you going to condemn people who hope the villain is Braniac instead of Lex or who want Clarke to have already met Lois Lane? Listen everyone, philinterrupted doesn't like speculation only baseline reactions.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 11:07 AM
@Chaos200 - you’re making real world social commentary complaints about a movie that has no information other than Henry Cavill won’t be in it.

Complaining about it having Lex Luthor as the villain is also a waste of time until they announce Lex Luthor to be the villain. So that’s a shit comparison.

You just want to complain about non white men getting representation in movies. So you’ll force the conversation anytime you can. It just shows how insecure you are. Do you think changing the color of an ALIENS skin is going to ruin the character?


ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/15/2022, 11:19 AM
@Chaos200 - So why shouldn't Gunn cast a black actor as Superman? Because guys like you will be filling up message boards with angry comments?
You're already doing it! lol, so what difference would it make?
newhire13
newhire13 - 12/15/2022, 11:39 AM
@Chaos200 - Dude. You don’t have to be this pathetic.
Nightcrawler1
Nightcrawler1 - 12/15/2022, 2:06 PM
@Chaos200 - Why couldn't Superman be played by someone other than a white guy?
He's an alien. These movies are adaptions of comics published in a time where they straight-up couldn't have non-white characters if the publisher wanted to move units. That's not longer a fair reflection of the society/societies that the adaptions are taking place is it.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 6:12 PM
@newhire13 - You don't have to be completely useless moron.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 6:15 PM
@Nightcrawler1 - I explained in detail why Superman should be cast accurately, if you choose to ignore the detailed reasons I stated and just ask the same rhetorical question over and over to make yourself feel better about being triggered, that's your problem.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 6:16 PM
@ObserverIO - Because that's not what Superman looks like.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/15/2022, 6:21 PM
@philinterrupted - No I don't want to complain about white men not getting representation, they get enough representation. I'm concerned about them not representing the source material accurately and the aesthetics is just as important as how the characters and story is written. Otherwise just make it an audiobook if you can't be bothered top get the visuals right. I think people would complain about his cape being green too.

Are you gonna keep complaining about my "complaining" or are you gonna move on?
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/15/2022, 7:21 PM
@Chaos200 - so, Superman being a white male is critical to the character? Everything changes if he was black?
I Do think there are black comic book characters that haven’t been given a shot yet. But if they did make a black Superman it wouldn’t change anything about the core of the character.
Ps. You can stop this conversation whenever you’d like.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/16/2022, 4:36 AM
@philinterrupted - So your fine with changing Blade white? Blade being black has absolutely nothing to do with his character. Yup it's as important as his red cape and blue tights. He doesn't necessarily need to be Caucasian but he needs to resemble how he looks in the minds eye of popular culture and yeah that includes skin tone, muscles and hair colour and even his deep blue eyes would help because he's iconic.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/16/2022, 12:14 PM
@Chaos200 - black and white is a simple example. But no, I don’t care. Tell a good story.

And Pop culture and society of evolved since when Superman was created in 1938.

But again, we’re back to having a conversation about something that hasn’t happened.

Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/16/2022, 1:55 PM
@philinterrupted - Bro Superman looked exactly the same as he did in 1938 only just a month ago in Black Adam, people got even more excited when donned the curl s hair Snyder omitted too, so you know what you've said is bullshit. There's a reason why people want Charles Martinet as Mario instead of Chris Pratt even though Pratt sounds fine, there's a reason the 2023 Mario movie is being more well received over the 1990's one even though by your logic new interpretations should be better but the 2023 Mario is almost too much like the source material. In your world we'd have the 1990's Mario movie over the 2023 one as long as it's trying to be "progressive".

We're way past arguing if it's going to happen or not you took the conversation to "why shouldn't it happen?" I already explained like 4 posts ago why I'm bringing up race changes, you really want to step back to that?
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 12/16/2022, 2:17 PM
@Chaos200 - yeah some people hold on to the past. But life moves on.

My point is, and has been, you’re complaining about things that haven’t happened yet. Once they cast a gender neutral bisexual red headed furry, go ahead and bitch about it. But don’t complain about inclusivity and diversity and wokeness when there’s been no relevant announcement.
Chaos200
Chaos200 - 12/16/2022, 2:29 PM
@philinterrupted - "Don't complain about possibly dying until you've died!"

I'd agree with you if there wasn't overwhelming precedent for exactly that kind of casting when a new popular ip is about to be adapted. If it was 2010, I wouldn't have made my OP but we're in 2022.
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