LOKI Spoilers: "1893" Takes Us Back To A Familiar Location For One Of The Show's Biggest Cliffhangers

LOKI Spoilers: "1893" Takes Us Back To A Familiar Location For One Of The Show's Biggest Cliffhangers

Loki's latest episode ends with quite the cliffhanger and we're now taking a closer look at what happens, that shocking "return," and what it might be building to now we're halfway through the season...

By JoshWilding - Oct 20, 2023 07:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki

We've already broken down the biggest moments in last night's episode of Loki - "1893" - but it's time to take a closer look at that huge cliffhanger ending. 

After another confrontation with Loki, Mobius, and Sylvie, Ravonna Renslayer finds herself sent to the Citadel at the End of Time. As you'll recall, we first visited that location in Loki's season one finale when the two Gods of Mischief encountered He Who Remains. 

A Kang Variant who had won the Multiversal War by creating a singular "Sacred Timeline" ruled over by the TVA, he'd had enough of the arduous task and offered Loki and Sylvie the chance to take his place. Instead, the latter plunged her sword into his chest.

"1893" shows that the Citadel still stands but is slowly falling apart. As for He Who Remains, any theories he might have survived Sylvie's attack or faked his death just went out of the window because he's very much dead. In fact, we see a rather gnarly shot of the villain's rotting corpse. 

Renslayer summons Miss Minutes who isn't happy about Victor Timely's betrayal and vows to reveal Kang's greatest secrets, including one she says will make the former TVA Judge really angry. 

What's the big secret? We'd guess it has something to do with the revelation that everyone in the TVA is a Variant (with no memory of how they got there or how Kang deceived them by creating the Time-Keepers). 

We're sure to find out in Loki's fourth instalment, but the plot has thickened and it's clear He Who Remains' shadow will continue to loom large over the series... 

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Loki season 2 will pick up in the aftermath of the shocking season finale when Loki finds himself in a battle for the soul of the Time Variance Authority. Along with Mobius, Hunter B-15 and a team of new and returning characters, Loki navigates an ever-expanding and increasingly dangerous multiverse in search of Sylvie, Judge Renslayer, Miss Minutes and the truth of what it means to possess free will and glorious purpose.

The series stars Tom Hiddleston, Sophia Di Martino, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Wunmi Mosaku, Eugene Cordero, Rafael Casal, Tara Strong, Kate Dickie, Liz Carr, Neil Ellice, with Jonathan Majors, Ke Huy Quan and Owen Wilson.

Justin Benson & Aaron Moorhead, Dan Deleeuw and Kasra Farahani direct episodes. The Head Writer is Eric Martin.

The first three episodes of Loki season 2 are now streaming on Disney+.

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Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 10/20/2023, 7:09 AM
I have been seeing theories that Renslayer being a Kang variant. I think that’s true. A kang who was his friend/lover who betrayed him. But instead of killing her, he erased her memories made her his number 2. I also have a theory that Miss Minutes will either become Jocasta like being or she steals Renslayer’s body in this weird Frankenstein sort of way.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 10/20/2023, 7:41 AM
@Mrnorth1921 - maybe his fears for robots at the TVA justify with Miss Minutes.
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 10/20/2023, 7:46 AM
@MadThanos - yeah, he was afraid of robots. Prob fought a few ultrons. That would scare him.
Origame
Origame - 10/20/2023, 7:51 AM
@Mrnorth1921 - ...it's not true though. We see her sacred timeline self. She's a principal.
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 10/20/2023, 8:54 AM
@Origame - her variant could have been as a crazy person. But also remember this timeline or the one we saw in Loki was based off whatever design that Kang made. The mcu pre Loki one. Could have found her and altered her into something else.
Origame
Origame - 10/20/2023, 9:18 AM
@Mrnorth1921 - ...but the whole point of his plan with the sacred timeline was to prevent other variants of himself.
BassMan
BassMan - 10/20/2023, 7:12 AM
Another great episode, was not expecting creeper Miss Minutes. Wasn’t a huge fan of the old timey, silly music during the chase scenes or Timelys initial portrayal but other wise solid.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 10/20/2023, 7:33 AM
Isn't weird that his clothes decomposed in a place with no time?

I mean, the body would decompose anyway because the body died so it can't maintain the biological process that keeps the cells, let's say, alive.
Origame
Origame - 10/20/2023, 7:53 AM
@MadThanos - it's a time travel show. What seems like minutes to us could've been hundreds of years for the citadel.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 10/20/2023, 7:37 AM
1893 was a branched timeline. Victor Timely was not supposed to get his hands on the TVA guidebook. Will be interesting to see what the show decides to do with him. They already mirrored him with Sylvie, how she shouldn't judge him by the actions of other Kang variants and that got to her. But yea, Sylvie's decision to kick Ravonna to the End of Time is eventually gonna bite her in the ass. Such a Loki move on her part. Miss Minutes could simply be referring to Kang betraying Ravonna, as he "doesn't do partners". Can Kang even team up with his own self? Nice to see everyone deeply respects OB, even tho no one ever visits him. Mobius and Loki get a lot of good moments this season. It was nice seeing Loki recognizing Victor as a manipulator/trickster, one of the things the Loki and Kang variants seem to have in common. Wonder if we're gonna see a bunch of Kangs join the Avengers in the Multiversal War. Iron Lad has come up often in such discussions. It has to happen, right?

Episode was carried by horny Miss Minutes, Gugu Mbatha-Raw and the directing. Such a well constructed episode.
KWilly
KWilly - 10/20/2023, 7:46 AM
Jonathan Majors in this episode killed it. Makes me really hope he didn't do what he was charged with and wins his trial.

Recasting him would be a shame.
Himura
Himura - 10/21/2023, 6:46 AM
@KWilly - His been one of my favorite up and coming actors ever since I saw Lovecraft Country. I really hope that stuff about him aint true either.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/20/2023, 7:53 AM
It’s been nice to watch something on Disney+ that’s actually great (so far). How rare.

Also; I gotta echo the sentiment that Majors delivered here. It’s funny how direction/writing can really make or break Kang. Loved him here and in season one but hated his portrayal in Quantumania. Shit was so lifeless. I too really hope he’s innocent and proven as such cause I would be interested to see how he does in Kang Dynasty (but I don’t have my hopes high).
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 10/20/2023, 8:05 AM
The image is strsight from the comic books, where Immortus' corpse is found in Limbo by Kang (which is faked in the comics).
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 10/20/2023, 8:25 AM
Quantumania is awful, but Majors performance was the best part of the movie. Idk what happend but all his variants seems to belong in a SNL sketch. I also like his performance as He Who Remains, but all the other variants are feeling like overacting.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/20/2023, 9:17 AM
@ImNotaBot - my screening of Quantumania had folks laughing at the mid credit scene with those Kangs. Shit was goofy as hell.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 10/20/2023, 9:26 AM
@TheLobster - i mean it was literally as comic accurate as you can be. they was just trying to make fans happy with literal panel to real life translation. i dug it since i want my cbm to be as accurate as possible to source material. crazy now people are shitting on the cbm genre for being faithful to the books.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/20/2023, 9:57 AM
@supermanrex - Agreed! And these people don't know what they want. Most of these fools complain just for the sake of complaining. Just like you said, they cry for one thing then they get it and still cry.

At the end of they day, these are CBMs. They're going to have some silly elements to them. Not everything will translate from the comic book pages to some masterful moment.
ptick
ptick - 10/20/2023, 8:52 AM
Only thing I have a hard time getting past was that 1868 Chicago was sacred timeline. So Victor Timely did indeed exist then, even on the sacred timeline. Yet HWR establishes in season 1 that he is from the future. How do I reconcile that with Timely being a HWR variant? Was Timely transported into the future somehow at some point between 1868 and 1893 on the sacred timeline and then became HWR? Is reincarnation a thing in the MCU? Did 1868 Timely die on the sacred timeline only to be reborn as HWR in the future?

Or is the sacred timeline NOT the timeline/universe from which HWR came from? And if that's the case why did he choose to shape a timeline as sacred where his own variant was to be born in 1868 and apparently just live out an ordinary life? Was it the only timeline/universe where he didn't become a genius-conquerer-multiversal war participant?
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 10/20/2023, 9:27 AM
@ptick - @ptick - Simple, in this branch reality, HWR was born centuries ago by their standards. Or think of it this way, this branch reality was actually very behind in idealogy and technology so that year might actually be 2500 by our standards but since the timeline was slow on everything, it could also be slow on getting to the gregorian calendar.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 10/20/2023, 10:03 AM
@ptick - Great questions... and it brings to mind a concept they've been hinting at. If I recall, HWR at some point mentioned how time loops back on itself. And then in this last episode Rennslayer said something to the effect of, "your variant is from the future...err the past...kinda both..."

Hoping this gets further exposition in the series. But yeah, these are really good questions!
ptick
ptick - 10/20/2023, 12:59 PM
@SpiderParker - Except Chicago 1868 WASN'T a branch when Renslayer & MM arrived. It was ID'ed as the sacred timeline. Leaving the TVA guidebook created the branch.
Cap1
Cap1 - 10/20/2023, 11:42 AM
Weakest ep of the season so far, missed the urgency of the first two eps, tho the setting and production design was immaculate. Don't do silly music over chases if you aren't willing to make the chases themselves silly. Can't have your cake and eat it. Also no idea what Majors was doing here, but it was faaaar too much. Extremely irritating performance
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/20/2023, 12:07 PM
Not a bad episode,some shitty music over some scenes and what is with Majors Timely voice,it's terrible.
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