AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY And AVENGERS: SECRET WARS' Working Titles Have Been Revealed

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY And AVENGERS: SECRET WARS' Working Titles Have Been Revealed

Working titles for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars have been revealed, but what do they tell us about the upcoming MCU movies? More than you might imagine! Hit the jump for details...

By JoshWilding - Aug 02, 2023 09:08 AM EST
Source: The Cosmic Circus

It's already been four years since the last time we sat down to watch an Avengers movie in theaters, and we still have just shy of three years to go until the next time Earth's Mightiest Heroes assemble. 

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was recently pushed back to May 1, 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars set to follow on May 7, 2027. The delay is primarily down to the WGA strike but Marvel Studios is also looking to take its time with upcoming projects, a stark contrast from Phase 4. 

Very early pre-production is underway on both movies, of course, and The Cosmic Circus has unearthed working titles for both movies. 

Those are said to be Apple Pie 1 (The Kang Dynasty) and Apple Pie 2 (Secret Wars). 

This is similar to how Daredevil: Born Again was dubbed "Out the Kitchen," and it's something typically done to keep these projects under wraps and avoid lookie-loos showing up when cameras are rolling. Do these have a deeper meaning, though?

Well, the site suggests this is a nod to Carl Sagan, the space scientist who is known for his 1980s TV series, Cosmos: A Personal Voyage. He once said, "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."

While we'd advise against reading too much into this, Kang created the Sacred Timeline and The Beyonder created a whole new reality in the pages of Secret Wars. With that in mind, you can probably understand why these working titles are relevant to the next Avengers movies.

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton is helming The Kang Dynasty from a script by Jeff Loveness (though we've since heard he was ousted from the project after Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania).

As for Secret Wars, all we know is Michael Waldron (Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness) is penning the screenplay.

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JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/2/2023, 9:12 AM
Kang is just not imposing. Thanos was scary. Kang….not so much.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 8/2/2023, 9:12 AM
Given the path that Phases 4 and 5 (are we in 5 now?)...I'm totally



about it all.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/2/2023, 9:13 AM
Apt name if Jeff Loveness is still involved. Someone [frick]ed the pie
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 8/2/2023, 9:13 AM
Cow Pie 1 and Cow Pie 2
Origame
Origame - 8/2/2023, 9:20 AM
Yes, because these titles have such relevancy. We all know star wars is really all about that blue harvest 🙄
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 8/2/2023, 9:32 AM
Will Bob Iger even greenlight these projects
If Marvel continues with box office flops?
Vigor
Vigor - 8/2/2023, 9:33 AM
@WakandaTech - avengers is their grand opus. Of course they will greenlight it. It's more wondering if sequels of failures will be greenlit
ShellHead
ShellHead - 8/2/2023, 9:48 AM
@WakandaTech - Guardians 3 is the top 3 film of the year lmao
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/2/2023, 9:50 AM
@WakandaTech - They ain’t had no box office flops except Ant-Man 3
Vigor
Vigor - 8/2/2023, 9:32 AM
Here for what's in store.
If none of this build up and characters have pay off then the reviews and online blogs will tell about it

Vigor
Vigor - 8/2/2023, 9:35 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - not gonna lie. This was my first thought
I've had my share of nerdgasms in the theater (mortal kombat from 90s, several mcu movies, johnwick4). I'd very much like to sit up in my seat for some cool new team ups against Kang !
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 8/2/2023, 9:36 AM
The working titles are actually

"This better be good or we're screwed"

"We have no back up plan so here goes nothing"
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 8/2/2023, 9:47 AM
They realize its not too late to forget about this whole Kang thing right? Go a different direction. Bring us the Xmen. Introduce Galactus as a big bad, or Dr. Doom, or Annihilus. How about a world war hulk done right? There are so many options
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 8/2/2023, 2:32 PM
@Shivermetimbers - for real.
videovac
videovac - 8/2/2023, 7:47 PM
"They realize its not too late to forget about this whole Kang thing right? Go a different direction. Bring us the Xmen. Introduce Galactus as a big bad, or Dr. Doom, or Annihilus. How about a world war hulk done right? There are so many options" - @Shivermetimbers

Dog, this company thinks people wanna see Agatha, Echo, and...I forget the other one. They can't move on from The Avengers. It absolutely is too late.

They made a career off of making big money with characters that nobody has any expectations for. They don't know how to write powerful characters with expectations attached to them.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/2/2023, 10:23 AM
Now I need an Apple Pie tee shirt in the Avengers font.
Timerider
Timerider - 8/2/2023, 10:44 AM
@ObserverIO - the first one in Green Apple, the second one in Red.

Wait until Galactus shows up, they are saving him for last.
hue66
hue66 - 8/2/2023, 10:24 AM
@Shivermetimbers - remember though we have only interacted with 2 versions. We don't know how others will be portrayed. I thought the antman one was intimidating. Too easily beaten sure
IcePyke
IcePyke - 8/2/2023, 11:50 AM
😏


PC04
PC04 - 8/2/2023, 4:57 PM
Gonna put some sharp cheddar on that apple pie...
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